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Patchwork Shaman posted:I explain fat Vetinari by reminding myself that he's a graduate of the Assassins Guild. He's not above putting on weight and acting like an idiot to accomplish his goals. That's what I always thought. If that was Vetinari then it would be very early on in his rule as Patrician. Pretending to be the normal sort of Patrician, which is to say corrupt, overly fond of fine foods and not hugely bright, would be a good survival strategy while he sets up the city to make himself indispensable.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Is he, canonically? I know he has the close relationship with Lady Margolotta, and a lot of the signs, but has that been confirmed? Never stated, but I don't think ever denied either. FactsAreUseless posted:If you're dumb enough to think that Pratchett has been secretly hinting that Vetinari is a vampire throughout the series, Discworld might be a little over your reading level. You might want to check your Accelerated Reader list and make sure you don't go above a 4.3. I don't seriously think it myself, but I know it's a fairly common wild-rear end guess.
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Zephyrine posted:Are we really sure of this or did Pratchet just change the characters features in later books? I'm pretty sure Pterry's on record as basically saying "yeah whoops". But since basically any inconsistency can be explained away by Thief of Time, I just like to imagine that when the Uberwald clock shattered the fat patrician that occurred between Winder and Ventinari disappeared and nobody at the monastery cared enough to fix it.
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Ursine Asylum posted:I'm pretty sure Pterry's on record as basically saying "yeah whoops". But since basically any inconsistency can be explained away by Thief of Time, I just like to imagine that when the Uberwald clock shattered the fat patrician that occurred between Winder and Ventinari disappeared and nobody at the monastery cared enough to fix it. You mean between Snapcase and Vetinari?
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Hedrigall posted:You mean between Snapcase and Vetinari? Probably, I didn't look up the patrician order before posting. 
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Heh, there's an orangutan in charge of reading and writing in the new Planet of the Apes film. 
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Zephyrine posted:Are we really sure of this or did Pratchet just change the characters features in later books? There's lots in the first few books that just seems to disappear or get glossed over as Pratchett finds his feet later on. Heck Eske and all she did in Equal Rites is never really mentioned again and they even go back to the "Women can't do magic" Wizards from then on.
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Fans posted:There's lots in the first few books that just seems to disappear or get glossed over as Pratchett finds his feet later on. Heck Eske and all she did in Equal Rites is never really mentioned again and they even go back to the "Women can't do magic" Wizards from then on. Yes she just vanished all together. So did most of the other students and the whole idea that it even is a form of school. But that's mainly for the best in my opinion. Most students mini stories were just annoying me. But Eske vanishing all together was very unusual. Especially considering she had her own book.
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Fans posted:There's lots in the first few books that just seems to disappear or get glossed over as Pratchett finds his feet later on. Heck Eske and all she did in Equal Rites is never really mentioned again and they even go back to the "Women can't do magic" Wizards from then on. She has a very brief and kind of stupid cameo in a really late book.
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The_Doctor posted:Wait, I thought Esk returned in I Shall Wear Midnight? Yes, she even had her own Wizard's staff, except she took the knob off the end because it didn't seem to serve any purpose 
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John Dough posted:Yes, she even had her own Wizard's staff, except she took the knob off the end because it didn't seem to serve any purpose So much for the song...
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John Dough posted:Yes, she even had her own Wizard's staff, except she took the knob off the end because it didn't seem to serve any purpose Bah. Granny'd be ashamed of her. Anyone with any knowin' knows a wizards staff has a knob on the end. It'd be like bein' a witch without a black hat. Half the bein' is in other people knowin'. Otherwise they ain't gonna react properly.
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I have 4 of the newer Gollancz hardcover books (these) for anyone who wants them; I already own all four. No charge, except perhaps postage if it turns out to be more than I'm expecting - should be fine though. I'm only offering this to people in the UK, however. Two of the books are fine (Eric, Sourcery), but the other two aren't: Interesting Times is printed upside down (too bad it wasn't The Last Continent...), and Moving Pictures has minor damage to the pages (might be fixable - I haven't tried). Apologies for the poor picture quality. All 4 books together:  Interesting Times, showing the upside down pages:  Moving Pictures, showing the page damage (might have gotten wet at some point in transit? It got to me in this condition, anyway):  If you're interested, PM me or give me an email address. Edit: Only Moving Pictures is left now. Crumpet fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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Can i call dibs on Eric, my copy got lost several moves ago Don't have PMs but my email is ir<username>@gmail.com
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I'm interested in Interesting Times, but I'm in another EU country. I could cover shipping via paypal or something. PM sent.
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Have we heard the name Bradshaw before? It sprung to mind as familiar but on reflection that may have been the giant gorilla and loving wife to Colonel Bradshaw in the Thursday Next books
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Pidmon posted:Have we heard the name Bradshaw before? It sprung to mind as familiar but on reflection that may have been the giant gorilla and loving wife to Colonel Bradshaw in the Thursday Next books George Bradshaw wrote a fairly famous series of railway guides in the 19th Century about Britain and Europe, telling the reader about things en route, and what one could find at all the stops on the lines. Bradshaw's Guide The_Doctor fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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Heran Bago posted:I'm interested in Interesting Times, but I'm in another EU country. I could cover shipping via paypal or something. Your PM inbox is full - delete a few and them PM me again. On a side note, I recently learned that Gollancz did Good Omens in the same style as the discworld collection - a smooth cover rather than a rough one, however. Also, Mrs (Georgina) Bradshaw appeared in Raising Steam, doing pretty much exactly what The_Doctor's post above me says.
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Pidmon posted:Have we heard the name Bradshaw before? It sprung to mind as familiar but on reflection that may have been the giant gorilla and loving wife to Colonel Bradshaw in the Thursday Next books Mrs Georgina Bradshaw was was hired by Moist to write accounts of her travels on the railway.
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I am reading Making Money and I am finding it very boring. Seeing that it's pretty much the same story as Going Postal, which I just read. Should I continue or should I forget it and start a different discworld book? I am on chapter 4 or 5. He just got the Dog, met the evil step son and is now getting a tour of the bank for the secound time.
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DrNewton posted:I am reading Making Money and I am finding it very boring. Seeing that it's pretty much the same story as Going Postal, which I just read. Should I continue or should I forget it and start a different discworld book? I am on chapter 4 or 5. He just got the Dog, met the evil step son and is now getting a tour of the bank for the secound time. I didn't enjoy Making Money very much either. I think that was the point where I first realised his writing was starting to go downhill. Now that you've started you may as well finish it off though, it does get more exciting later in the book.
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DrNewton posted:I am reading Making Money and I am finding it very boring. Seeing that it's pretty much the same story as Going Postal, which I just read. Should I continue or should I forget it and start a different discworld book? I am on chapter 4 or 5. He just got the Dog, met the evil step son and is now getting a tour of the bank for the secound time. You could try I Shall Wear Midnight, but basically you've finished the series now, all the books after Making Money are poor. gently caress alzheimer's.
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DrNewton posted:I am reading Making Money and I am finding it very boring. Seeing that it's pretty much the same story as Going Postal, which I just read. Should I continue or should I forget it and start a different discworld book? I am on chapter 4 or 5. He just got the Dog, met the evil step son and is now getting a tour of the bank for the secound time. I enjoyed it, but it was years since I'd read Going Postal so I didn't have that same feeling of it being basically the same story. If you want to be a completionist then finish it, but it's not one I'd pick out to recommend to anyone.
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I enjoyed Making Money almost as much as I enjoyed Going Postal, which I enjoyed a lot. It is a bit of a retread but I enjoy Moist's character and modus operandi enough that it's a pleasure just seeing him do his thing. Really, what falls down hardest for me about the post-Alzheimer's books is the failures of characterization, prose and dialogue much moreso than any breakdown in the plot (though Raising Steam's plot was pretty horrible). Making Money and to an extent Unseen Academicals are still in the zone where they didn't strike any false notes for me on those scores, so I was still able to enjoy them.
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Dirty Frank posted:You could try I Shall Wear Midnight, but basically you've finished the series now, all the books after Making Money are poor. gently caress alzheimer's. Actually, Going Postal was my first Discworld Book. So I got a lot to read.
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DrNewton posted:Actually, Going Postal was my first Discworld Book. So I got a lot to read. You lucky bastard. The Watch or Witch books are sort of the go tos there but if you want straight shenanigans in the Going Postal sort of vein then Moving Pictures isn't a bad choice.
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the JJ posted:You lucky bastard. The Watch or Witch books are sort of the go tos there but if you want straight shenanigans in the Going Postal sort of vein then Moving Pictures isn't a bad choice. My sister gave me The colour of Magic, Equal rites, and The Last Continent. She had those laying around. I have Death's first book and Sam Vimes first book on hold at the library. I think I will just charge through Making Money. I wanted to read all of the Moist books first but from I hear, the last one is a do not touch.
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DrNewton posted:I wanted to read all of the Moist books first but from I hear, the last one is a do not touch. It's a "touch last, and only if you want to," I'd say. You may be able to take away some nice worldbuilding from it, like I did. The plot and characterization is pretty sad but it's not like your not reading it will cure Sir Terry's Alzheimer's, so you might as well read it someday if you want to.
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Total Meatlove posted:Read them in publication order or you'll lose the effect of seeing Ankh Morpork grow up This. I've read nr 1-23 in order and doing it in a mixed order would make things really confusing.
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I read them: 8, 15, 19, 21, 24, 29, 25 (The Truth), 33 (Going Postal), 34 and am currently on 39 (all the Watch books). Am I doing it wrong? I was meaning to check out Small Gods after Snuff, but I hear the audiobook version is abridged?
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I don't think you can do it wrong, but there are often a lot of cross references that you may miss at the time and might only click later, if at all. I started reading them in published order around 97, since then I've had more than enough time to go back and enjoy reading the guards/witches/death/rincewind lines in their own order to enjoy that.
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BurgerQuest posted:I don't think you can do it wrong, but there are often a lot of cross references that you may miss at the time and might only click later, if at all. I started reading them in published order around 97, since then I've had more than enough time to go back and enjoy reading the guards/witches/death/rincewind lines in their own order to enjoy that. The Wizards are pretty insufferable if you haven't had time to read up on the characters. Which is a good example of the problem with the two cartoons.
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"By my oath, I'm not a man [to whatever]" son of a BITCH jackrum
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Snuff posted:It was just his own human darkness and internal enemy, which knew his every thought, which knew that every time Commander Vimes dragged some vicious and inventive murderer to such mercy or justice as the law in its erratic wisdom determined, there was another Vimes, a ghost Vimes, whose urge to chop that creature into pieces on the spot had to be chained. This, regrettably, was harder every time, and he wondered if one day that darkness would break out and claim its heritage, and he wouldn't know ... the brakes and chains and doors and locks in his head would have vanished and he wouldn't know. 
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Pidmon posted:"By my oath, I'm not a man [to whatever]" son of a BITCH jackrum And that is why ole Jackie is my avatar. I don't think the 3D artist really read the book, before you ask.
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