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LingcodKilla posted:Why is it called the goat locker? I understand what it is but not why "goat". NAVY HERITAGE TIME BITCHES the chiefs used to literally keep a goat to be able to get fresh milk on some ships. They'd keep the goat in their berthing or mess to keep from having to share their milk edit: fuckin jew jewed me right out of answering the POD navy heritage question US Berder Patrol fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Aug 7, 2014 05:33
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Thats so much less gross that I thought it would be. Makes sense too.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:35
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LingcodKilla posted:Thats so much less gross that I thought it would be. Makes sense too. I would love to know what you thought it would be, please. 
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Aug 7, 2014 05:53
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I feel like making my own re-write of "The Last Ship" but with the Cowpens. You figure the crew dies by like day 23, tops.. So it's way less loving Wordy than amateur loving Hemingway William "gently caress that's a lot of words" Brinkley.
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Aug 7, 2014 06:19
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DownByTheWooter posted:edit: fuckin jew jewed me right out of answering the POD navy heritage question I'm afraid that's going to count against your sailor of the quarter board score
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Aug 7, 2014 06:23
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Snowdens Secret posted:I'm afraid that's going to count against your sailor of the quarter board score Joke's on you, he went to Mast and now his Chief is going to pull for him so he gets SOQ and the EP Eval to show he improved.
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Aug 7, 2014 06:25
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Snowdens Secret posted:I'm afraid that's going to count against your sailor of the quarter board score yeah it's ok can't get that top block on the EO anyway without being CMEO we all know that
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Aug 7, 2014 06:31
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ManMythLegend posted:This could be right. I have no idea where to even start looking for an official definition of a JO for the Navy. You're both sort of right. As was said, in the other services company grade is O1-03, field grade is O-4 to O-6. In the Navy O1-O4 is technically considered company grade, with O5-O6 considered field grade. Just look at who gets the fancy stuff on their combination covers.  Fake edit: DoD website says the Navy actually terms O1-O3 junior grade and O-4-O-6 mid-grade. So all O1-O3 are actually JGs! And your distinctions I think mainly apply to the surface Navy although I will concede there is some truth to it. I still think my fancy stuff on cover is the trump though. And that's also how someone once explained it to me. 
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Aug 7, 2014 06:57
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DownByTheWooter posted:NAVY HERITAGE TIME BITCHES  You can't get milk from a man-goat. You can gently caress it tho'. The Taliban fucks goats for pleasure. Therefore... Chiefs are goat-loving latent Taliban.
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Aug 7, 2014 07:11
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poopkitty posted:I would love to know what you thought it would be, please. historically I thought it might have something to do with a "stable" of midshipmen for chiefs to tenderly caress. I think I read too much napoleonic navy fiction. Just saw a DEP kid have a total breakdown during PT over his high school ex.... I don't think he's gonna do so well during boot.
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Aug 7, 2014 07:30
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LingcodKilla posted:historically I thought it might have something to do with a "stable" of midshipmen for chiefs to tenderly caress. I think I read too much napoleonic navy fiction. Maybe you should tenderly caress him.
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Aug 7, 2014 07:44
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LingcodKilla posted:historically I thought it might have something to do with a "stable" of midshipmen for chiefs to tenderly caress. I think I read too much napoleonic navy fiction. She will bang his best friend the next week, the second best the week after. Somewhere after the third week a dear John letter will arrive and he will try to drink the cleaner that can't kill you. The psych hold unit will clear him once he stops trying to off himself. She will come to the graduation and promise to never do it again. They will get back together. She will put those "my boyfriend is a sailor" stickers on her poo poo car. They will turn into "I love my sailor husband" and "spouse is the hardest job in the navy" after the a school marriage for bah money. The baby is born shortly after, she balloons up to 500lbs and he bangs some e2 fresh from boot. Divorce 1 occurs. 18 years and 2 more divorces with 8-12 legitimate and illegitimate kids later he Is the MCPON. He looks back on the shambles that were supposed to be the prime of his life, takes a swig of military special whiskey, puts on his best fake smile, and addresses a crowd of sailors graduating boot camp. "One day, one of you will be where I stand"
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Aug 7, 2014 08:38
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You forgot the part where his Filipina 3rd wife beats the poo poo out of him in Navy housing, landing him on the blotter repeatedly and then he thanks her for saving him from himself at his SCPO pinning.
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Aug 7, 2014 09:15
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Snowdens Secret posted:I still can't wrap my head around how whatever overlooking command just forgot they had a ship without an XO, and, yeah, regardless of what mess the upper officer ranks were in, stuff like watchbills and maintenance falling apart sounds like a goat locker problem, not an O-gang one. There were issues with all of the khakis onboard.
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Aug 7, 2014 12:02
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Laranzu posted:He'll do great. After a tumultuous series of breakups and getting back together during DEP, he will ship to boot after confessing his eternal love for her. It's like you are a psychic 
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Aug 7, 2014 13:11
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poopkitty posted:You forgot the part where his Filipina 3rd wife beats the poo poo out of him in Navy housing, landing him on the blotter repeatedly and then he thanks her for saving him from himself at his SCPO pinning. You write this as if you've witnessed it before...
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Aug 7, 2014 15:53
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Ug. For future reference ladies and gentlemen, do not conduct inspections of the LM2500 Compressor section by hand; apparently I am not Iron Man, nor do I have the power to slow down a turbine rotor, even at 2 MPH.
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Aug 8, 2014 00:07
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TrialbyStone posted:Ug.
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Aug 8, 2014 00:13
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Haha what the hell. I took off for 17 days of leave about 2 months ago and it's still pending approval. No one has even approved yet. Now I have 81 days or something, gently caress. I get out soon do I stay hush hush or what? Even with 30 days terminal I'm going to have a lot of leave to burn. At this point going to have to sell some back because the green weenie is still in my rear end at work. Hassle just trying to schedule TRS next week
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Aug 8, 2014 00:22
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Christoff posted:Haha what the hell. I took off for 17 days of leave about 2 months ago and it's still pending approval. No one has even approved yet. Now I have 81 days or something, gently caress. I get out soon do I stay hush hush or what? Leave is to be approved in a timely manner, there's no real reason to hold onto it since they have a bajillion other third classes running around. It's their internal hate at their decision for everything in their life.
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Aug 8, 2014 00:29
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I don't know how there might have been oversight and we were told all leave got approved so I just took off. I'll probably say something just so it doesn't come back and bite me later. But my LPO is pretty much swapped out as of now can you submit leave for a past date?
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Aug 8, 2014 00:34
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Option 1: Cancel your request in NSIPS and keep your mouth shut. Sell back leave upon separation. Profit. Option 2: Tell your chain of command so the Approver in your chain of command can approve the request, causing it to be charged against your balance. The choice is yours. Dark side, or light side?
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Aug 8, 2014 00:51
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Aug 8, 2014 01:04
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Octopode posted:You. You are the reason we have to write up retarded rear end safety instructions and warnings for even the dumbest, most common sense things. This is easily the first time in 4 years working in Main Propulsion that i've gotten more then a scratch; I'd say I have a fair idea of what, and what not should be touched as far as machinery goes. For the record, C school has 4 engines that we students are about to work on; 2 generators, and 2 main engines. I was merely demonstrating the amount of force in a main engine verse the generator, and got pinched. It's machinery, metal, electricity, and all sorts of fun things that could potentially hurt *anyone*, but today I was that guy. Luckily I ended up with nothing more then a deep cut; lesson learned, let's carry on.
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Aug 8, 2014 01:23
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ManMythLegend posted:There were issues with all of the khakis onboard. Well, like what specifically? I read the IG report, and I've followed what everybody had to say on Sailorbob...but the IG report left a *lot* of things unanswered that SB questioned. 1) Where the gently caress was the Chief's mess/CMC? 2) Where the gently caress was the rest of the wardroom. I get that your average DIVO (1st or 2nd tour) might not have truly appreciated WTF was going on, or been to terrified as young DIVOs to say anything...but what about the LDOs and the Department Heads? The gently caress were they doing during all of this? And really, "enjoying their enhanced sense of power" or however you put it seems like a bullshit cop-out. Maybe one or two of them got off and the added autonomy they fell into, but the rest of them had to be thinking "what the gently caress is going on?" How did not one of them say anything? Even if it was just mentioning it to a spouse, someone on another ship, etc. 3) ISIC, how the gently caress did ISIC not take issue with the ship not having a qualified XO for so long? 4) In the same vein, how did PERS raise the red flag when the ship went without an XO for so long (coordinated move on the CO's part? even so, some paper-pusher at Millington had to have noticed) 4) The admiral that was onboard for a period of time (I don't remember how long?) he even commented that it was weird that the CO was in his in-port cabin as opposed to his at-sea cabin. Fair enough, if he thought something was fishy, why wouldn't he have hit up ISIC or CSG or whomever? I'm not superstitious, but frankly I think that ship is cursed. I was in Yoko when Graf was CO of COWPENS and I knew people on that ship...it literally had *the* worst retention rate in the entire Navy in 2010-2011... I heard stories of Chiefs and JOs - grown-rear end men, breaking down into tears after been harassed/assaulted by Graf. She seriously left an indelible mark on that ship. Also, why was it allowed be independently deploy so soon after a port-swap? That CO and CHENG were hosed up, but a LOT of other people were completely hosed up as well to allow something like that to happen. buttplug fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Aug 8, 2014 02:16
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Christoff posted:Haha what the hell. I took off for 17 days of leave about 2 months ago and it's still pending approval. No one has even approved yet. Now I have 81 days or something, gently caress. I get out soon do I stay hush hush or what? As me how I ended up taking 2 months terminal and still selling back 60 days of leave. This was before using NSIPS, so I'd bring my leave chit back to N1 at the end of the period and some how it never showed up on my LES. Who knows what happened to it, not my job to police admin. Perhaps going out drinking with YN1 and PSC helped, but who knows man. The proper thing to do is what Dusty said for the 2nd but the realistic thing is to just skate and be a typical lower E and if it comes up just shrug and say "how should I know that".
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Aug 8, 2014 02:29
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TrialbyStone posted:This is easily the first time in 4 years working in Main Propulsion that i've gotten more then a scratch; I'd say I have a fair idea of what, and what not should be touched as far as machinery goes. Considering you could have been minus 4 digits rather easily, you got pretty lucky. EDIT: also if you got a deep cut across your palm, holy hell are you in for a world of fun. Enjoy the feeling as barely flexing/moving your palm almost causes the stitches to open up. (Stitches on your palm are really painful/easy to pull accidentally) I opened my hand up from index finger across the palm to the opposite side at the bottom of my palm. poo poo sucked, but I am wayy more careful with sharp implements and hands now. orange juche fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Aug 8, 2014 06:49
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Nick Soapdish posted:As me how I ended up taking 2 months terminal and still selling back 60 days of leave. This was before using NSIPS, so I'd bring my leave chit back to N1 at the end of the period and some how it never showed up on my LES. Who knows what happened to it, not my job to police admin. Perhaps going out drinking with YN1 and PSC helped, but who knows man. Take more terminal leave if you can. You get more money that way.
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Aug 9, 2014 05:24
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Zarc posted:Take more terminal leave if you can. You get more money that way. I have to challenge this because people have been driving me batty with this lately. Caveat: Yes, your time off is more valuable than whatever pittance they assign to it when you sell leave. I realize it doesn't make any sense to sell the leave back at $20 a day or whatever they give you for them in 99% of cases. THAT SAID, How the gently caress are you getting less money if you use all of your leave days? That's backwards. You will draw your full pay and entitlements right up until the end of your contract either way - but if you use all of your leave days, you don't get any money for selling them back. If you're in some kind of crazy situation where you would rather be at work right up until your last day taking no leave at all, you will in fact get a bigger final pay. Stop spreading this folksy nonsensical bullshit. gently caress being at work though, I am making it a point to burn every single day. I just dropped the chits to only come in on Mondays and Fridays in the weeks between now and when I can start terminal
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Aug 9, 2014 05:52
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The only way you make more money by taking more terminal leave is if you can start another job earlier because of it, and effectively get two paychecks for the period of your leave. Otherwise, you're getting paid the same until you leave active duty, be it working time or leave time.
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Aug 9, 2014 05:56
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Octopode posted:The only way you make more money by taking more terminal leave is if you can start another job earlier because of it, and effectively get two paychecks for the period of your leave. Otherwise, you're getting paid the same until you leave active duty, be it working time or leave time. You're forgetting BAH. If you sell your leave, you don't get any BAH for the days that you sold.
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Aug 9, 2014 06:05
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:You're forgetting BAH. If you sell your leave, you don't get any BAH for the days that you sold. That's true. Soooo if you sell back some leave, they stop paying your BAH sometime way before your EAOS?
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Aug 9, 2014 06:22
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:You're forgetting BAH. If you sell your leave, you don't get any BAH for the days that you sold. Terminal leave doesn't extend your time on active duty, though, it only moves your last day of work to the left--not your end of active service to the right--you still get your BAH for the same period. If your EAOS is 1 Sep, taking 60 days of terminal won't magically extend that to 1 Nov, you'll just stop working on 1 Jul instead and keep getting paid until 1 Sep, earning the same pay either way from Jul to Sep. The exception is when retiring, when your term of active duty would end at different times if you took terminal or not, which is what causes the confusion. Always take terminal for retirement.
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Aug 9, 2014 06:27
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For me for instance, I work in a job that is pretty easy going with their hours as long as the work is done. It doesn't make sense for me to take terminal because I can do everything I need to do anyway, and will be moving out of the area at separation. Meanwhile I'll get however many days of basic pay (probably 45) which is a significant chunk of change on top prior to moving.
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Aug 9, 2014 14:06
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LingcodKilla posted:Why is it called the goat locker? I understand what it is but not why "goat". Goats are old and gnarly. So are chiefs. A goat locker is the most appropriate nautical term.
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Aug 9, 2014 18:05
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I always thought it was because goats smell bad, eat garbage, and cry when put to work.
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Aug 9, 2014 18:23
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Also known for both fighting and loving to death so kinda weird for somebody who is suppose to maintain discipline.
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Aug 9, 2014 18:38
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There is zero reason to not take terminal. Who the gently caress wants to play Navy for any longer than they have to? OH WOOP DEE DO ANOTHER 30 DAYS OF NAVY BULLSHIT OH WAIT I DONT ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW WOOPS
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SquirrelyPSU posted:There is zero reason to not take terminal. Who the gently caress wants to play Navy for any longer than they have to? OH WOOP DEE DO ANOTHER 30 DAYS OF NAVY BULLSHIT OH WAIT I DONT ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW WOOPS You should probably calm down dude, and I have a pretty good reason to not take terminal.
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