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XboxPants posted:All of that, and also consider that it's unclear what the upper limits of his stat grinding is. Like, if he's already at the very upper limits of human strength, and he does a half hour of strength training, will he just keep getting strength bonus points anyway like some crazy DBZ character? It seems very possible to me. He told us just now in this chapter that it's easier to raise stats that are low. Diminishing returns would make strength training to become superhuman impractical. Contrast bonus stats from levels, which can be spent on anything for full returns. This is why he decided to go full int and train his other stats normally.
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Clarste posted:He told us just now in this chapter that it's easier to raise stats that are low. Diminishing returns would make strength training to become superhuman impractical. Contrast bonus stats from levels, which can be spent on anything for full returns. This is why he decided to go full int and train his other stats normally. Do we know this for sure? I thought when he said it's easier to raise low stats that he was saying his Int allocation was starting to take two or more points per level, as is common in most games.
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Stats are easier to train "normally" at the low end of the scale. So even if he wants to diversify it should pay in the long run to do as much training as he can (in a time dilation barrier, anyway) to get his lower stats up without leveling up. Of course he's assuming that he has the time to grind up normally before investing points directly into those stats before he needs them.
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XboxPants posted:Do we know this for sure? I thought when he said it's easier to raise low stats that he was saying his Int allocation was starting to take two or more points per level, as is common in most games. His comment was, explicitly, that the his intelligence was already high enough that mundane study wouldn't help it. But his Vit and Agility and Strength were at their base levels mostly, so if he went through the Super Martial Arts Training he could get strong enough. Also, have we seen the grandfather's stats yet? Or anyone who had any stats about 100ish? I wonder how explicitly rare that kind of thing is, since he's going to keep pumping int.
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KittyEmpress posted:Also, have we seen the grandfather's stats yet? Or anyone who had any stats about 100ish? I wonder how explicitly rare that kind of thing is, since he's going to keep pumping int. I don't think we've been explicitly shown anyone with stats that high, but given the fact that reaching level 100 in INT gave him MEDIUM Mana, I would imagine that it is fairly common among higher ranking Abyss members. Really, one of the most OP things about his ability we've seen so far are the breakpoint boosts. It's too bad that he doesn't have a strategy guide to let him know exactly what he would get for leveling VIT, STR etc. to 50.
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Silynt posted:I don't think we've been explicitly shown anyone with stats that high, but given the fact that reaching level 100 in INT gave him MEDIUM Mana, I would imagine that it is fairly common among higher ranking Abyss members. Open menu. Manual.
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Slime posted:Open menu. Manual. I wonder if /pizza works.
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Aug 1, 2014 19:33
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I just got the mental image of him trying to grind his luck by gambling, but his wisdom starts dropping when he won't walk away from the table.
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Eponymous posted:I just got the mental image of him trying to grind his luck by gambling, but his wisdom starts dropping when he won't walk away from the table. I don't know, I think if his wisdom could drop from being unwise, it would have done so one of the times he said something that almost got him killed.
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KoB posted:I wonder if /pizza works. If he never does this, the entire comic will be a wasted opportunity.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:46
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Does he even have a text box to type stuff into
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Aug 2, 2014 00:12
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He needs to see if he can send Sun-Il a tell.
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Aug 2, 2014 01:31
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How about the implication that one of his skills only comes from certain bloodlines?
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Azubah posted:How about the implication that one of his skills only comes from certain bloodlines? What, the bit about that medium mana capacity skill only being in people of select heritages? Come on man, everyone knows the flavour text is bullshit. Next you'll expect me to believe that everyone in an MMO is the chosen one.
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Slime posted:What, the bit about that medium mana capacity skill only being in people of select heritages? Come on man, everyone knows the flavour text is bullshit. Next you'll expect me to believe that everyone in an MMO is the chosen one. Well yeah, if you choose every person that ensures the job gets done!
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Slime posted:What, the bit about that medium mana capacity skill only being in people of select heritages? Come on man, everyone knows the flavour text is bullshit. Next you'll expect me to believe that everyone in an MMO is the chosen one. Hey man don't question the flavor text, my immersion says I'm the chosen one.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:23
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I love that he got three wisdom for stealing ideas from Dragonball Z.
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I hope Jee-Han's Hyper Novice second job is better than the Super Novice second job, because it would suck to hit a cap like that. I wonder if the Gnome skill that says he can summon 14 of them is a mistranslation? If not, I hope he notices it soon. Also, when is he going to use his Psychokinesis? 
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Aug 7, 2014 17:50
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It was brought up in a earlier chapter that he can summon 14 different spirits or one spirit as strong as 14.
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Silento posted:I hope Jee-Han's Hyper Novice second job is better than the Super Novice second job, because it would suck to hit a cap like that. He can summon 14 spirits, of which noum is one  e:f;b egg tats fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Aug 7, 2014 18:09
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Oh, okay. Guess my memories failing me already... 
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:New Chapter Where Jee-han discovers the dark side of RMT.
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This just in. Jee-Han crashes the South Korean economy through hyper-inflation. The man in charge of the reserve called Jee-Han a quote "cheaty character" and "totally bullshit". Jee-Han could not be reached for comment as he is currently moving through a different time stream.
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IS MY JOB GRINDING NOW?! God this manga is funny.
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I'm not sure why his friend thinks Jee-Han would need to use time barriers to cheat. Jee-Han could probably pass the test without studying. A high enough int, and he's presumably been going to the classes in the first place. He would presumably be able to remember all that. And even if he didn't, he could probably just cram a quick study session now. I mean, he probably still has time, and it's not like he needs sleep anymore. At least going by the fact that he doesn't seem to have actually slept since entering the training grounds. Now, if I was Jee-Han, I'd probably look at all the different settings under options once I found that. There's probably something important in there. Especially considering that he already found the 'toggle auto enter barriers' setting. Hopefully there would be a 'think the move name to use it' setting, instead of voice only. Or at least a way to open up the inventory and such silently. I'd also read what the 'luck' stat actually does. And figure out a way to grind it without using stat points on it. Probably do a few hands of poker or some such. At the very least it would help get, if they exist, some pretty handy skills. Such as 'bluff' or 'detect lie/bluff'. Possibly even some sort of 'predict' skill, which might even be grindable by just shuffling a deck of cards and predicting which one is on top. And another thing I'd try to grind is the 'physical resistance' skill, and figure out what other skills exist that would let me outright ignore damage. And I'd probably grind it with actually trying to dodge the hits. You know, something that's not shouting out fake move names in attempt to cheat getting them.
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Kgummy posted:You know, something that's not shouting out fake move names in attempt to cheat getting them. HADOUKEN!
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What are people's thoughts on the translation up on mngacow versus the one on mangajoy? I'm not sure which group does the translations on either site, but I find that I prefer mngacow since it translates the little status boxes, and many of the terms seem more spot-on. Like using 'ogre' instead of 'goblin' for describing the giants that they've been fighting, or using the term 'Vitality' instead of 'Stamina'.
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We already had the room of spirit and time, now we have training with weights. Please give me a classic Shonen transformation and then this Manwha will be complete. Now with all this stat grinding, the question is how does he grind Wisdom and Agility?
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NowonSA posted:We already had the room of spirit and time, now we have training with weights. Please give me a classic Shonen transformation and then this Manwha will be complete. Well agility is easy enough, just have him learn to dodge everything till his reflexes and speed can cope with it. Wisdom and maybe Luck are the tough ones to grind out since Wisdom actually requires him to try being inventive which he is terrible at doing other than copying known exploits so it's not something he can easily grind out. E: Actually just thought of something, if he were to constantly financially plan out everyone's budget, that might count as Wisdom grinding since he'd be constantly figuring out intelligent budgeting for everyone. Luck is anyone's guess, since for all we know it could just be as easy as spending a day at the casino/rolling a dice or it's just gonna be a random stat-up.
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Maybe he can solve puzzles for wisdom? Maybe not Sodoku, but more lateral thinking puzzles. Or possibly just complicated puzzle boxes and such. His 'come up with ways to use the game mechanics for a huge advantage' seems to be working well enough for him now, though. Especially since having more wisdom is going to help him come up with more. Though it might be interesting if he could grind wisdom by coming up with ways to exploit video game systems. Just because he can't enjoy playing them anymore doesn't mean he can't get a benefit from them. Especially if he uses time barriers to lengthen the amount of time he has to run through them. Running while using a portable game system could work as well. Isn't 'agility' actually "Dexterity"? Or did the newer translations change it? The only thing I can think of would be that tire run exercise. And the good thing is that he can train everything else at the same time! Though if we're going to go for more dangerous/anime methods, he could have to do stuff he has to dodge. Maybe setup one of those spinning pillars with the horizontal wooden pillars sticking out of it. Whatever those things are called. Even if he got hit he'd be training physical resistance. Another possibility would be 'spinning death traps' that are common in games. Or he could set up a hot coal path (possibly even ignoring the 'ashes on top' safety thing that's done in real life) and try to get a heat resistance skill. Or he might outright get a fire resistance skill. Probably useful if someone tries to fireball him. Or someone tries to roast him via hot air, since it would probably pass through the mana barrier. He could also try to run across a spike pit, though that would probably be a 'really high level' kind of thing. Using a snowy illusion barrier, he might be able to train a cold resistance skill. Maybe he could even grind a poison resist skill by eating spoiled food or other toxic substances? Might help with other gas based attacks. Fake edit: Allarion kind of beat me to some of this.
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Nonsense, Jee-Han needs to watch more shonen anime and copy the training techniques for insane WIS gains. That's been so far the best (only?) way to gain WIS anyways.
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He needs to challenge Sun-Il to a 70 hour tennis WAR whilst wearing his weighted clothing. That should develop Strength, Stamina, Agility and most importantly of all Fighting SpiritTM.
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If Jee-Han wants to grinds WIS he's going to need to become a school janitor or sports coach and give timely life advice to passing teens.
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If we go by D&D then becoming super religious would raise wisdom.
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He can play Russian Roulette to grind luck. +1 luck every time you win. -5 luck for each loss.
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