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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I have the impression that most people buying/selling individual stocks don't care about the long (10+ years) term. Then you have the kind of people that are long term investors but behave like short term investors. I'm pretty sure long-term in this context is "a year or more", not the hardcore buy-and-hold-for-a-decade or the live-off-the-dividends crowds.
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The GOP is struggling in the War on Whites, so here is Reince Priebus talking up their Uber allies
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Jackson Taus posted:I'm pretty sure long-term in this context is "a year or more", not the hardcore buy-and-hold-for-a-decade or the live-off-the-dividends crowds. The definition I heard separating short and long term is 3 years, which is about right for new hire -> Honeymoon period -> pump & dump.
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edit:Jackson Taus posted:I'm pretty sure long-term in this context is "a year or more", not the hardcore buy-and-hold-for-a-decade or the live-off-the-dividends crowds. I think you're right since I was originally talking about individual stocks, not index or mutual funds. My bad. Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Aug 7, 2014 17:48
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The X-man cometh posted:Nathan Bedford Forrest was an antebellum 1%er, I assume he stayed rich after the war, too. While he had made quite a bit of money before the war, Forrest was not part of the Southern aristocracy as he 1) made his money as opposed to inheriting it, and 2) made it via the slave trade. Believe it or not, the big slaveholders often disdained and loathed the men they bought slaves from as "southern Yankees" for their money-grubbing ways and low class origins (Forrest was himself illiterate for much of his life, for example), and did all they could to keep them from ever climbing up into the "respectable" classes, no matter how rich they grew. Even were that not the case, Forrest lost most of his fortune after the war as he was so heavily invested in slaves, and his attempts to rebuild them via railroad speculation went belly-up in the 1870s. While never exactly poor again, he never got back to anything like his previous wealth.
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Sir Tonk posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FCOh5aETHg At :20 you can see his dining companion's reflection walking back toward the immigration issue in the window.
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Aug 7, 2014 18:02
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LorneReams posted:HAHAHAHAHA gently caress them all.  You don't gently caress with Tricky Dicky, or he fucks you back. Best hopeful majority leader ever.
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Aug 7, 2014 18:39
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Hey, want a reason to drink? Telling white people the justice system is racist makes them like it more
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Aug 7, 2014 19:15
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Cross posting, there was another C. Koch editorial today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...round/13643229/
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Aug 7, 2014 19:18
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Fried Chicken posted:Hey, want a reason to drink? Telling white people the justice system is racist makes them like it more That reminds me of a study where decreasing support for welfare among white populations coincided with when the majority of advertising for welfare featured black people.
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Aug 7, 2014 19:21
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IIRC there are polls among white people in California noting that they're more likely to express reactionary views when you remind them they're no longer the majority in the state.
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Aug 7, 2014 19:48
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And the one about whites supporting affirmative action when it is pointed out that on neutral tests Asian Americans out perform them.
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Aug 7, 2014 19:50
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Fried Chicken posted:The GOP is struggling in the War on Whites, so here is Reince Priebus talking up their Uber allies This is behind a paywall, FYI BrandorKP posted:Cross posting, there was another C. Koch editorial today: And your link is broken. Here, I fix.
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Aug 7, 2014 19:53
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Weird it works in one thread and not the other. And I just copy/pasted. Thanks.
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Aug 7, 2014 19:58
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The X-man cometh posted:Nathan Bedford Forrest was an antebellum 1%er, I assume he stayed rich after the war, too. I thought the night-riding overseer scum kind of brought him in as a figurehead and he later distanced himself? Kind of like Admiral Greenhill accepted leadership of the military junta in Legend of Galactic Heroes.  In any case, I was mostly thinking of the 20th century revival movement which was pretty grassroots.
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Aug 7, 2014 20:04
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Ballz posted:This is behind a paywall, FYI
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Aug 7, 2014 20:06
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Fried Chicken posted:You aren't missing anything of note. It's the usual vapid cheerleading. I just really wanted to do that pun It was a good one. This article about the (pending) BofA settlement is going around Facebook with a spectrum of comments running from "Good, gently caress them!" to "Holy poo poo look how greedy the government is!" I've taken pains to point out that the tentative amount of $16B comes to about $1700 per mortgage that they serviced / packaged / destroyed through Countrywide. Less than half of it is being potentially paid to any Person harmed by their malfeasance, and that much money is only about 75% of one quarter's revenue for BofA. It's also less than 1% of their assets, although that's not a particularly relevant statistic.
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Aug 7, 2014 20:20
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BrandorKP posted:Cross posting, there was another C. Koch editorial today: I wonder how much it pays to be "Charles Koch's ghostwriter"
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Aug 7, 2014 20:28
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Ballz posted:This is behind a paywall, FYI If you go to Google and search for the URL the website will drop the paywall. They want Google to be able to crawl their site to help with SEO.
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Aug 7, 2014 20:31
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Here's Rep. Joe Kennedy dumping a bucket of ice water over his head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AUAChyXSCA
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Aug 7, 2014 20:43
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So Obama looks to be dropping humanitarian supplies in Iraq within hours http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a5c4_story.html Brief summary: ISIS, as part of its pogrom against any group but theirs has hounded the Yazidis out if their city of Dohuk. 130,000 fled north to Kurd controlled regions, suffering as they go. But another 40,000 fled to Mount Sinjar, where ISIS now has them trapped without food and water, and are letting the elements do their killing for them. The proposed plan is to airdrop supplies to the refugees, and possibly enact military airstrikes against other parts if ISIS. Why they wouldn't hit the forces that have the people trapped is unclear to me. I guess the plan is make it easier for them to survive, and get the hard to target ISIS groups to fall back to cover what we were able to target and blow up? Situation is really hosed up.
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Aug 7, 2014 21:00
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In more upbeat news, Renisha McBride's murderer got convicted of 2nd degree murder
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Aug 7, 2014 21:02
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Fried Chicken posted:So Obama looks to be dropping humanitarian supplies in Iraq within hours Won't ISIS just charge in and start shooting up the place to keep the refugees from getting to the supplies?
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Aug 7, 2014 21:09
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Sen John Walsh is dropping out if the Montana race http://m.billingsgazette.com/walsh-drops-out-of-u-s-senate-race/article_44061fbc-fd60-583b-bc9b-61f41ebb49e0.html?mobile_touch=true
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Aug 7, 2014 21:11
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1stGear posted:Won't ISIS just charge in and start shooting up the place to keep the refugees from getting to the supplies? I don't know. Of course, the upside of our insane military budget is that if we wanted to we could cover that place with more supplies than they could ever hope to remove
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Aug 7, 2014 21:16
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Just do like before and send them pallets of cash.
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Aug 7, 2014 21:22
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Fried Chicken posted:In more upbeat news, Renisha McBride's murderer got convicted of 2nd degree murder This is great news, and a big black eye to the loving bigoted imbeciles who argued that fucker's innocence.
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Aug 7, 2014 21:32
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Fried Chicken posted:In more upbeat news, Renisha McBride's murderer got convicted of 2nd degree murder I'll take it.
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Aug 7, 2014 21:40
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whitey delenda est posted:It was a good one. The thing about the wealthy is that they're collectively going to get a lot of their money back eventually. Money slowly but surely moves those best able to collect and save it. Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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SedanChair posted:I'll take it. Now, let's see how sentencing goes.
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1stGear posted:Won't ISIS just charge in and start shooting up the place to keep the refugees from getting to the supplies? Assuming the Yazidis are even lightly armed, ISIS would have a hell of a time rooting 40,000 of them out of a mountain. Trouble is, it's a mountain so dropping them supplies really only works until October, then they all die of exposure.
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Ballz posted:This is behind a paywall, FYI If you use noscript it blocks the paywall scripting and you can read the article apparently. You aren't missing much. It's just a right wing piece of poo poo defending companies that are operating because they ignore the rules. Just like Airbnb does and Paypal does (or did for a long time). All of those business do well because unregulated businesses can gently caress around without risk. Like Airbnb who makes sickening amounts of money while others risk their own property.
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whitey delenda est posted:This article about the (pending) BofA settlement is going around Facebook with a spectrum of comments running from "Good, gently caress them!" to "Holy poo poo look how greedy the government is!" Surely this stiff fine will prevent any further negative behavior by banks! Well ok looks like they learned their lesson! Bye Banks, be good!
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Fried Chicken posted:Sen John Walsh is dropping out if the Montana race http://m.billingsgazette.com/walsh-drops-out-of-u-s-senate-race/article_44061fbc-fd60-583b-bc9b-61f41ebb49e0.html?mobile_touch=true
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Monkey Fracas posted:Surely this stiff fine will prevent any further negative behavior by banks! Well ok looks like they learned their lesson! Bye Banks, be good! I do like how the original settlement the bank wanted was $12b and most of it was going to go to the customers, but the government held out for $16b, most of which is going to...the government. Great job justice department, sure showed them.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Surely this stiff fine will prevent any further negative behavior by banks! Well ok looks like they learned their lesson! Bye Banks, be good! In the perfect world in my head sentences against businesses would just drop the farce of trying to pick monetary values that can become political footballs, fines would be a length of time. gently caress up really bad, your fine is one year. Any profit made during that year is gone. Doesn't matter how big you are, a year is still a year and every one of these corporations is desperate to post their profit ratings as high as they possibly can for their shareholders. Hoist the fuckers by their own greedy petards.
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SumYungGui posted:In the perfect world in my head sentences against businesses would just drop the farce of trying to pick monetary values that can become political footballs, fines would be a length of time. gently caress up really bad, your fine is one year. Any profit made during that year is gone. Doesn't matter how big you are, a year is still a year and every one of these corporations is desperate to post their profit ratings as high as they possibly can for their shareholders. Hoist the fuckers by their own greedy petards. Congrats executives, you just got 1000% raises for this year! See, no profits, all income is going out as expenses.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I do like how the original settlement the bank wanted was $12b and most of it was going to go to the customers, but the government held out for $16b, most of which is going to...the government. Great job justice department, sure showed them. I'd like for us to make BoA a nationalized Bank of America for real, but I'd also like a pony.
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SumYungGui posted:In the perfect world in my head sentences against businesses would just drop the farce of trying to pick monetary values that can become political footballs, fines would be a length of time. gently caress up really bad, your fine is one year. Any profit made during that year is gone. Doesn't matter how big you are, a year is still a year and every one of these corporations is desperate to post their profit ratings as high as they possibly can for their shareholders. Hoist the fuckers by their own greedy petards. In a perfect world any bank loving around on this level would be nationalized immediately. E: beaten
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