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Beach Bum posted:I was gonna post that one but I was really looking for the one right before they had to fly Cougar in on approach. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_%28film%29 I found the film really dull story-wise but it's great if you want to watch F-14 carrier operations. It's on Netflix with a good HD transfer and looks great.
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Slo-Tek posted:Don't see one of these every day. And the moral of the story is, never let Westinghouse build high-perfomance jet engines. e: I swear I remember seeing FISTY show up on FlightAware. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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CharlesM posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_%28film%29 Seconding this, story was boring as all hell but the carrier bits were neat to watch. There's also a bunch of WW2 and early cold war stuff that's been declassified and stuck on youtube relatively recently, I'll dig for links if I have time later but it wasn't hard to find just searching youtube. Along with the carrier and airplane related stuff there's some neat training films and such, like avoiding flak in your bomber, how to operate light and medium tanks, and effectively use machine guns in an offensive role.
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CharlesM posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_%28film%29 It's incredibly campy, and the plot does kinda drag, but I love it if only for the scenes of F-14s trying to dogfight Zeros -- it's a bit one-sided, if you couldn't guess.
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CharlesM posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_%28film%29 I can't watch or even think about this movie without that loving song playing in my head. E: goddammit MrChips fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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I went on the internet, and I found this; 7th Generation! (but the website says 6th???)
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Did you find it on the last page of this thread?
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Duke Chin posted:Any jet built that is ever actually built by Beaverworks sure as poo poo better be painted brown as its standard livery. You'd have to think simultaneously in English and French
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Duke Chin posted:Any jet built that is ever actually built by Beaverworks sure as poo poo better be painted brown as its standard livery. slidebite fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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drzrma posted:Seconding this, story was boring as all hell but the carrier bits were neat to watch. There's also a bunch of WW2 and early cold war stuff that's been declassified and stuck on youtube relatively recently, I'll dig for links if I have time later but it wasn't hard to find just searching youtube. Along with the carrier and airplane related stuff there's some neat training films and such, like avoiding flak in your bomber, how to operate light and medium tanks, and effectively use machine guns in an offensive role. Fun Fact: during one of the 'dogfight' scenes with Zeros in this film, one of the pilots nearly smacked his plane into the water after stalling too close to the ground. They left it in. And these were the days with the Pratt and Whitney engines. The Tomcat didn't come into its own until it got the F110. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3XNEWtJF0o (happens around the 2:45 mark - he stalls, goes inverted nose down, and *barely* pulls out of it once he's regained energy) BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Fun Fact: during one of the 'dogfight' scenes with Zeros in this film, one of the pilots nearly smacked his plane into the water after stalling too close to the ground. They left it in. And these were the days with the Pratt and Whitney engines. The Tomcat didn't come into its own until it got the F110. Yeah when I saw that particular maneuver I was pretty  . Christ, that'd be a hell of a thing to have to ditch a bird on a photo op.
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A stunt pilot actually died during the filming of Top Gun. Didn't recover from the flat spin, wreckage never found, cause unknown. :/
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Beach Bum posted:Christ, that'd be a hell of a thing to have to ditch a bird on a photo op. Like this classic photo?  CharlesM posted:A stunt pilot actually died during the filming of Top Gun. Didn't recover from the flat spin, wreckage never found, cause unknown. :/ Yeah, Art Scholl. Another fun (and potentially untrue) fact about Top Gun that I only heard because my father was a Navy helo pilot - during the water rescue scene, Cruise was loving around in the drink and actually got himself into a dangerous situation for a minute or two, which spoiled a take because the rescue swimmer actually had to do his actual job. I also remember there being a decent story behind why it was a Coast Guard chopper that picked the both of them up out of the water and not a Navy helo, but I can't remember enough details. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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CharlesM posted:A stunt pilot actually died during the filming of Top Gun. Didn't recover from the flat spin, wreckage never found, cause unknown. :/ Not exactly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_accidents Top Gun (1986). On 16 September 1985, aerobatic pilot Art Scholl crashed his Pitts S-2 camera-plane off the southern Californian coast near Carlsbad and neither was recovered.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Not exactly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_accidents He was doing deliberate spins at the time to get the pov shot.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Fun Fact: during one of the 'dogfight' scenes with Zeros in this film, one of the pilots nearly smacked his plane into the water after stalling too close to the ground. They left it in. And these were the days with the Pratt and Whitney engines. The Tomcat didn't come into its own until it got the F110. Is there any truth to that, though? Sounds to me like there was an effective scary movie shot, and someone got too eager to hear an exciting story about it being real and started an urban myth that way.
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vessbot posted:Is there any truth to that, though? Sounds to me like there was an effective scary movie shot, and someone got too eager to hear an exciting story about it being real and started an urban myth that way. Considering how lovely those engines were it wouldn't surprise me at all. I've talked to many Tomcat pilots who flew A models and its pretty shocking how accepted it was that you were going to get yourself in trouble at some point because those engines.
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vulturesrow posted:Considering how lovely those engines were it wouldn't surprise me at all. I've talked to many Tomcat pilots who flew A models and its pretty shocking how accepted it was that you were going to get yourself in trouble at some point because those engines. Bye, Bye, Baby! has a lot of anecdotes about how lovely the first-gen Tomcat engines were. The newer revision was such an improvement that afterburner launches weren't necessary.
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vessbot posted:Is there any truth to that, though? Sounds to me like there was an effective scary movie shot, and someone got too eager to hear an exciting story about it being real and started an urban myth that way. It's kind of hard to tell, I'm sure that was a pretty long lens for that shot, but there wasn't any sky visible under it and a lot of water above.
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In any case I'm going to tell my wingman to splash the zeros at some point now that I've seen that.
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I'm curious how well an early-rev Sidewinder would resolve a Zero.
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I saw the greatest vanity plate ever today. I'm half tempted to move to VA just to get it: (Stock image, didn't take a pic)
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Snowdens Secret posted:I'm curious how well an early-rev Sidewinder would resolve a Zero. 
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Good thing they had GUNS and it isn't a fighter without one - in fact you just need that, a titanium bathtub, and a single engine, don't you know? No radar necessary.
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simplefish posted:Good thing they had GUNS and it isn't a fighter without one - in fact you just need that, a titanium bathtub, and a single engine, don't you know? No radar necessary. I've always wondered how if an A-10 Warthog would do dogfighting with WWII fighers.
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pkells posted:I saw the greatest vanity plate ever today. I'm half tempted to move to VA just to get it: Ironic given what I recently read about punishments for speeding in Virginia! Link: http://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-virginia-lessons-from-my-three-days-in-1613604053
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Zhanism posted:I've always wondered how if an A-10 Warthog would do dogfighting with WWII fighers. This is one of those questions like "could a grizzly bear fight two gorillas at once", isn't it? I think you have to specify what fighters, and where. I know some WW2 fighters were good down low, and others were superior at high altitude, and I have no idea how that maps onto a A-10's flight envelope.
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holocaust bloopers posted:An A-10 armed with only ammo would probably wreck some poo poo. The can opener on the A-10 could really show the German and the Russian attack birds a thing or two.
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Seems like a decently interesting question all things considered. A late war boom and zoom might do surprisingly well with a decent height advantage, but we're talking about a 40 year gap here. I'd be surprised if most WW2 fighters had the ammo to really get the job done on something built to fly into Shilkas.
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Mazz posted:Seems like a decently interesting question all things considered. A late war boom and zoom might do surprisingly well with a decent height advantage, but we're talking about a 40 year gap here. I'd be surprised if most WW2 fighters had the ammo to really get the job done on something built to fly into Shilkas. Yeah, wouldn't the A-10 be effectively impervious to anything that didn't have a cannon?
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Go head on or come down on them from the front and put some rounds into those nice big fans...?  Enough sustained fire on a pilot who got stuck on HDG HOLD would probably bring anything down.
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I would much rather see Glenn Woods in a Huey with an AK-47 go against an A-10
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On this date in 1963, the YF-12 took to the air for the first time.
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If you've never had a dream about flying an A-10 into combat at Kursk, you don't belong in this thread.
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MrYenko posted:If you've never had a dream about flying an A-10 into combat at Kursk, you don't belong in this thread. How about Normandy?
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