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Anomandaris posted:Rob Sanders wrote the amazing Legion of the Damned which is IMHO the best (loyalist) Space Marine book written. His Atlas Infernal on the other hand is quite confusing and probably not everybody's cup of tea. This story is about a duel in that stupid thing Perturabo built for extreme fighting contests. What does it have to do with the story of a warplost space marine chapter turned space marine ghost chapter that saves outnumbered IG regiments?
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The book is mostly about the Excoriators, an Imperial Fist successor chapter (the Legion of the Damned are also involved obviously but are not the main focus). I should probably have said that in my previous post. Ignore the title and just read the book for what it is. It's really good.
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Which shoulder do former Deathwatch members wear the special pad on once they return from their service?
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Anomandaris posted:The book is mostly about the Excoriators, an Imperial Fist successor chapter (the Legion of the Damned are also involved obviously but are not the main focus). I should probably have said that in my previous post. Ignore the title and just read the book for what it is. It's really good. It is good I enjoyed it and its badass Espc the scene w the imperial priests and sisters
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Anomandaris posted:And second unrelated question, is The Damnation of Pythos worth picking up? As in, does it contribute to the Heresy overall or is it just a minor side story that can safely be ignored (like Nemesis)? I was quite dissapointed by Vengeful Spirit lately (predictable, boring and ultimately pointless) and I don't want to repeat the experience. Damnation is a side story. It does however deal with the Iron Hands (and a couple of Salamanders and Raven Guard) fighting back against the Word Bearers. It's also the story of a Legion dealign with its first daemonic incursion. There's basically nothing on the main plot, but it's good read.
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Sulecrist posted:Which shoulder do former Deathwatch members wear the special pad on once they return from their service? As with all things Marine, it probably varies by chapter. However, since most Marines have their chapter insignia on their left shoulder, it makes sense to replace the right shoulder instead.
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Sulecrist posted:Which shoulder do former Deathwatch members wear the special pad on once they return from their service? Left. The chapter symbol is always on the right. The reason for this is that the original studded shoulder pads were on the left to absorb incoming fire as the Marine shot his bolter and advanced toward the enemy. Unfortunately, GW has been kind of lax in enforcing their own fluff (who woulda thunk?) berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:Left. The chapter symbol is always on the right. The reason for this is that the original studded shoulder pads were on the left to absorb incoming fire as the Marine shot his bolter and advanced toward the enemy.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Left. The chapter symbol is always on the right. The reason for this is that the original studded shoulder pads were on the left to absorb incoming fire as the Marine shot his bolter and advanced toward the enemy. Whose left are we talking about? The regular (non-deathwatch) power armor has had the chapter symbol on the Marine's left for as long as I've been aware, except in the case where that shoulder pad is studded like you said. Right shoulder pad is usually for squad type or unit markings (again on non-deathwatch, non-terminator armor).
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JerryLee posted:Whose left are we talking about? The regular (non-deathwatch) power armor has had the chapter symbol on the Marine's left for as long as I've been aware, except in the case where that shoulder pad is studded like you said. Right shoulder pad is usually for squad type or unit markings (again on non-deathwatch, non-terminator armor). Let me put it this way: the chapter marking is supposed to be on the model's right, because the old studded shoulder pads necessitated that. Also, stuff like Terminator honors and Deathwatch shoulder pads go on the model's left. Like Arquinsiel said though, GW is kind of all over the place with this. I could see the argument for chapter on the left, as that would be the leading shoulder when firing and advancing into combat (assuming you favored your right hand.)
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berzerkmonkey posted:Left. The chapter symbol is always on the right. The reason for this is that the original studded shoulder pads were on the left to absorb incoming fire as the Marine shot his bolter and advanced toward the enemy. I've read it's because they didn't want to offend the machine spirit of the armor by taking off the chapter symbols 
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berzerkmonkey posted:Let me put it this way: the chapter marking is supposed to be on the model's right, because the old studded shoulder pads necessitated that. Also, stuff like Terminator honors and Deathwatch shoulder pads go on the model's left.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Let me put it this way: the chapter marking is supposed to be on the model's right, because the old studded shoulder pads necessitated that. Also, stuff like Terminator honors and Deathwatch shoulder pads go on the model's left. Maybe for the Rogue Trader beakies (and obviously for any modern model that still uses the studded pad) but as far as I can tell the right shoulder is now by default the one for the squad designation (upwards-pointing arrow for tac squad, etc) and the left carries the chapter symbol, unless it's displaced by a more important symbol or by studs. http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marine-Tactical-Squad Look at the 360 views if you don't believe me. You can see on the group shot that they all have the tactical arrow on the right pad and the chapter one on the left, except for the random one with an older shoulder plate. This is the most recent release, but it's been like this at least as far back as the fifth edition starter.
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I believe you - I was probably remembering some old fluff.
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I'm extremely happy to hear that! What I'm not happy about is I'm just about to finish the Night Lords omnibus, I've got everything else by Abnett and good lord I'm not sure what else to try now considering the level of horrible that's going around the Library these days.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I believe you - I was probably remembering some old fluff. Yeah sorry if I sperged out on you a bit hard there. Like I said, I know the beakie pattern is different, so that might well have been the fluff when the beakie armor was all there was, but but for most power armor it's been chapter on the left for some time now.
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Sandweed posted:New Ghosts book confirmed for November! "Fuckin finally" was pretty much my reaction when I saw that in the BL newsletter.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I have not read Death World yet though - Catachans are not my favorite IG regiment, so I haven't felt the need to get that book out of the way. Don't waste your time - it's boring and spends most of the time building up
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Cooked Auto posted:"Fuckin finally" was pretty much my reaction when I saw that in the BL newsletter. I really enjoy the Ghosts books, but I also wish they were coming to an end.
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So I just finished The Emperor's Gift. 'Dogmatic, mildly autistic potatoes' isn't how I'd expected the Grey Knights to be characterised, although it certainly was interesting to see just how inhuman they are. Also Logan Grimnar is amazing, but that's something I already knew.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I really enjoy the Ghosts books, but I also wish they were coming to an end. They are. I mean the books have been in broad collections with titles, right? "The Founding", "The Saint", and so on. The current set is "The Victory" so clearly there's only 2-3 books left in the thing, tops.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I really enjoy the Ghosts books, but I also wish they were coming to an end. Yeah kinda, even if my reaction was more referring to they're finally releasing a book that's not Heresy related or about Space Marines which are and is actually appealing to me more than anything.
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Im not usually a McNeil fan, but ive been reading Priests of Mars and holy poo poo its actually good. Not like good enough not finish, I mean I am legit enjoying it.
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Waroduce posted:Im not usually a McNeil fan, but ive been reading Priests of Mars and holy poo poo its actually good. Not like good enough not finish, I mean I am legit enjoying it. That's good to hear; I've been putting off reading Priests/Lords because it's McNeill, despite wanting to know more about the Mechanicum. Maybe I'll find some time for them over the next month or so.
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Yeah, it's a really good book. I hear that the sequel isn't that great though. Sometimes I wonder if Graham McNeill is actually a collective of writers - this would explain why his writing is all over the pace in terms of quality.
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The sequel didn't grab me as hard. It was okay, but didn't give me the overwhelming feeling of "Holy poo poo, Mcneill wrote this?!" the way that the first one did.
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How is Chris Wraight's new stuff on the Space Wolves, and what's it like compared to the older take by William King?
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I found them pretty great. The second one was pretty decent as well contrary to my fears. It's an interesting take on the Wolves late into the Millennium
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For you losers that dont read the best GW thread out there, a poo poo ton of books are about to go on sale for cheap http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3635841&pagenumber=171#post433318891
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I put a bunch of obsolete warhammer army books, warhammer/40k novels, and white dwarf magazines up for sale in SAMart: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3656866
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It was interesting to see random historical call backs, the hunting games the custodes go through and I think they travel through new york at one point, but it is not a good book imo E: totally skippable
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vigorous sodomy posted:Do I read The Outcast Dead, or not? I personally do not recommend it, no. And if you watn to read about Custodes there's some short stories written by better authors out there too.
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Cream_Filling posted:I personally do not recommend it, no. And if you watn to read about Custodes there's some short stories written by better authors out there too. Can I bet a brief synopsis? The cover art is all over the place, and there's no mention of custodes.
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vigorous sodomy posted:Can I bet a brief synopsis? The cover art is all over the place, and there's no mention of custodes. Copy-pasted from some wiki: The Outcast Dead were a small group of Renegade Space Marines who belonged to the Traitor Legions and had been part of an Astartes honour guard known as the Crusader Host based on Terra in the days just before the start of the Horus Heresy in the early 31st Millennium. The Crusader Host was comprised of members drawn from all 18 of the Space Marine Legions. When news of the Warmaster Horus' betrayal of the Emperor of Mankind reached Terra on the frigate Eisenstein, the loyalty of all members of those Legions that had sided with Horus was considered suspect by the warriors of the Legio Custodes. The Custodes imprisoned these Astartes within Khangba Marwu, a vast, underground Imperial prison complex deep beneath the Himalayan Mountains also known as 'The Vault'. After breaking free and rescuing the Astropath Kai Zulane from The Vault and escaping from the prison complex, the Outcast Dead proceeded to fight their way across Terra in an attempt to escape back to their respective Legions. In so doing, they ultimately unleashed the secret within Zulane's mind for which he had been imprisoned and which held the key to the future survival of the Imperium of Man in the wake of the Horus Heresy. It's pretty poorly written and the plot doesn't make a ton of sense. Also if you are a big lore nerd they have a lot of questionable and stupid stuff in addition to the regular silly stuff like people ripping spines out of each other and dumb things like that.
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Skarsnik posted:For you losers that dont read the best GW thread out there, a poo poo ton of books are about to go on sale for cheap I just had to rush to my bookshelf to see if someone had stolen all my stuff. I own all of these, including the Weber books.
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Cream_Filling posted:It's pretty poorly written and the plot doesn't make a ton of sense. Also if you are a big lore nerd they have a lot of questionable and stupid stuff in addition to the regular silly stuff like people ripping spines out of each other and dumb things like that. That synopsis made it sound like an interesting and cool story. Sad to read that it doesn't live up to that expectation. To anyone who's read the entire HH series thus far: How many of the books actually take place on Terra and of those books how many are worth reading?
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Is Redemption Corps by Rob Sanders seen as good? What about The Sundering Omnibus by Ben Counter?
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AndyElusive posted:To anyone who's read the entire HH series thus far: How many of the books actually take place on Terra and of those books how many are worth reading? Shadows of Treachery has two stories set in Terra: The Crimson Fist and The Lightning Tower. In Tales of Heresy, there are two: Blood Games, which is about the Custodes, and The Last Church, which is... a polemic on religion. Both books are short story/novella collections, and they're decent enough. That is, the good stories outweigh the bad.
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