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Reiley posted:What sort of playstyle is Poison built for? What are her strengths? I don't know much about Poison but from the looks of it she seems like a good zoner with nice options to reset the range using that heel-jump of hers.
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Reiley posted:What sort of playstyle is Poison built for? What are her strengths? Your objective playing Poison is to force out enemy mistakes with her mid to long range projectiles, and engage in close range when necessary. -Use 1P Aeolu Edge for screen control -Bait out jump ins with 2P and 3P Aeolus Edge -Force opponents to block cr.2K > MP Whip of love from max distance -Get into close range with elbow drop or love me tender attacks, and follow up with 3 frame 1P or forward throw That's all from the USFIV Bible. Give it a shot.
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FAT SLAMPIG posted:That's all from the USFIV Bible. Give it a shot. How is that, by the way? I haven't seen much discussion of it since it was released.
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cams posted:
Dang yeah. Unfortunately it looks like I suck thusfar. I'm working on her in Endless just trying to get a hang of her normals and spacing etc and there are some nice things to work with, but I am getting creamed by people who know what they're doing as far as good fundamentals. I'm not really converting well outside of what I can do with pokes, and thus getting hopelessly outdamaged. But she's pretty fun I must say.
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Sarchasm posted:How is that, by the way? I haven't seen much discussion of it since it was released. It's 600 loving pages. 36 pages of a glossary, and the rest is character breakdowns, frame data, hitboxes, strategies, etc. It's a nice breakdown of pretty much everything.
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With regards to Poison, the first hit of rekka is almost always unsafe on block vs most characters. A good player will punish you even if you do it at "max distance," which it almost never will be if you cancel into it from a normal. It probably won't matter for most people here just playing random online dudes, but it's always good to know when something you're doing isn't really safe. The most relevant characters are Gief, Hugo, Hawk, Guile, and Vega. These characters can ALWAYS punish you for doing rekka on block. Even decent players of these characters will know how to punish it, because it's so free and easy. The rest of the cast varies, but most of the cast can punish rekka most of the time. bebaloorpabopalo fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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Aug 9, 2014 00:58
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strangemusic posted:Dang yeah. Unfortunately it looks like I suck thusfar. I'm working on her in Endless just trying to get a hang of her normals and spacing etc and there are some nice things to work with, but I am getting creamed by people who know what they're doing as far as good fundamentals. I'm not really converting well outside of what I can do with pokes, and thus getting hopelessly outdamaged.
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Sooooo I didn't know this was possible, but I actually got the pipe followups on Cody's U2 to connect when used as AA...
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:With regards to Poison, the first hit of rekka is almost always unsafe on block vs most characters. A good player will punish you even if you do it at "max distance," which it almost never will be if you cancel into it from a normal. It probably won't matter for most people here just playing random online dudes, but it's always good to know when something you're doing isn't really safe. So, does Poison have a true blockstring with specials? MP AE comes to mind maybe?
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KingShiro posted:Sooooo I didn't know this was possible, but I actually got the pipe followups on Cody's U2 to connect when used as AA... I think it works if you hit with the sand like, once.
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cams posted:I cannot do c.MK into hands with Decapre to save my life. I've got c.LP c.MP hands and c.MP hands down pretty well but c.MK hands confounds me. I can only do it by hitting mk and sliding my finger across the punches. The problem is if the mk wife's the hands still come out sometimes.
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I've hated this about every iteration of SF4 but the arcade mode is too hard. I can't even come close to beating Seth on easy. I've never have trouble with any fighting game arcade mode even on harder difficulties but this is just stupid. I just want to try out the characters without getting destroyed which is why I'm not playing online 
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Overbite posted:I've hated this about every iteration of SF4 but the arcade mode is too hard. I can't even come close to beating Seth on easy. I've never have trouble with any fighting game arcade mode even on harder difficulties but this is just stupid. I just want to try out the characters without getting destroyed which is why I'm not playing online You'd have a lot more luck looking up some basic tutorial videos and taking a character into training mode and trying out some of their core mechanics and some basic normals cancelled into specials or if you're feeling bold some basic bread 'n butter combos. Putting stock into your performance versus the AI in arcade mode is a poor measuring stick for how good you are at the game, and it's a poor way to practice the game in general.
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FAT SLAMPIG posted:It's 600 loving pages. 36 pages of a glossary, and the rest is character breakdowns, frame data, hitboxes, strategies, etc. It's a nice breakdown of pretty much everything. Jesus. I really want that but I also really don't want to go through it all with a pen marking poo poo that may change. I don't expect another version of the game but I do expect a minor balance patch of some sort. Wouldn't be a SF4 update without one.
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Callick posted:You'd have a lot more luck looking up some basic tutorial videos and taking a character into training mode and trying out some of their core mechanics and some basic normals cancelled into specials or if you're feeling bold some basic bread 'n butter combos. Putting stock into your performance versus the AI in arcade mode is a poor measuring stick for how good you are at the game, and it's a poor way to practice the game in general. Yeah I went online and immediately won 3 in a row just using basic normals and specials. I can figure out what other players are doing on the fly but I'm terrible at combos. I can do them all day in training mode but as soon as I fight a real person I fumble or forget them. edit: if anyone wants to play me sometime on steam http://steamcommunity.com/id/overbite/ Overbite fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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Aug 9, 2014 03:21
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Has anyone else had a hard time getting USF4 to recognize your controller? I'm trying to use a PS3 controller through motioninjoy and it worked fine with AE but now it just won't detect it at all. Other games are working fine, only USF4 is having problems.
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ParanoidInc posted:Has anyone else had a hard time getting USF4 to recognize your controller? I'm trying to use a PS3 controller through motioninjoy and it worked fine with AE but now it just won't detect it at all. Other games are working fine, only USF4 is having problems. Wasn't motioninjoy the one that people were saying was malware? There was another one people were recommending but I forgot the name. Xinput?
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Overbite posted:Wasn't motioninjoy the one that people were saying was malware? There was another one people were recommending but I forgot the name. Xinput? I'll try that out. No idea what the deal with it being malware is but I've been using it for 3 years now without a problem, as far as I know. Thanks for the tip. edit: Still not working. Ugh. ParanoidInc fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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cams posted:I cannot do c.MK into hands with Decapre to save my life. I've got c.LP c.MP hands and c.MP hands down pretty well but c.MK hands confounds me. You pretty much have to quickly piano the hands, immediately right after c. MK hits your opponent.
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Overbite posted:I've hated this about every iteration of SF4 but the arcade mode is too hard. I can't even come close to beating Seth on easy. I've never have trouble with any fighting game arcade mode even on harder difficulties but this is just stupid. I just want to try out the characters without getting destroyed which is why I'm not playing online Don't bother, the AI just reads inputs. It's impossible to formulate any sort of strategy because it will randomly decide to punish some moves in their startup frames or just let itself get hit. I did arcade mode once to get the japanese / english sound options and it was hilarious to get ultra'd in the startup frames of something like a cr.mp.
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:Don't bother, the AI just reads inputs. It's impossible to formulate any sort of strategy because it will randomly decide to punish some moves in their startup frames or just let itself get hit. I did arcade mode once to get the japanese / english sound options and it was hilarious to get ultra'd in the startup frames of something like a cr.mp. you'll learn how to deal against online kenbots
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cams posted:
 I wouldn't recommend it; Decapre has the worst time against most of the grapplers.
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In case you haven't seen this, someone on reddit analyzed the packets from a GFWL match and from a Steamworks match, and figured out why the netcode is borked.quote:USF4 PC netcode is 100% bugged. no amount of placebo tweaks can make it better. This was brought to the Capcom Community manager on the Steam forums here quote:darksamus: Hi mate
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YFDHippo posted:
True, Decapre v. Hugo is a goddamn nightmare, for example. I know she has mixup potential but I'm trying hard to play her as a footsie machine right now. My execution is so very very terrible that all the mixups in the world are not there yet for me as far as inputs. THAT BEING SAID: I can't figure out how to do her Spiral Arrow properly. It's supposed to be downback ->upback -> forward + K, right?
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Well that is good news. I think I will just wait for the patch to fix that rather than jump in now and get frustrated in ranked.
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strangemusic posted:True, Decapre v. Hugo is a goddamn nightmare, for example. The regular air spiral arrows have a minimum height restriction, so maybe you're running into that? The EX version has no such restriction, though.
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chumbler posted:The regular air spiral arrows have a minimum height restriction, so maybe you're running into that? The EX version has no such restriction, though. That's probably it. Also: holy hell do I need matchup practice against Rolento. I have no Goddamn idea what's going to come out, the guy is rolling Vega style and hopping around, sliding and throwing kunai and all this poo poo!! Aaaaaaaaaaa! strangemusic fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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Evil Canadian posted:Well that is good news. I think I will just wait for the patch to fix that rather than jump in now and get frustrated in ranked. Endless is okay, though, so long as you have no empty public slots. I played a lot of great lag-free games with goons tonight, but when someone left (drat you Ryuuga!) the whole thing turned into a shitshow because we were constantly being pinged by random online assholes. So here's my advice to the thread:  FOR THE TIME BEING, PLAY ENDLESS AND SET ALL YOUR OPEN SLOTS TO PRIVATE AND YOU WILL HAVE NO LAG
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Also of note, if the host of the Endless lobby changes, the game seems to forget that the slots are private. So if the host leaves, you're probably better off just starting a new lobby.
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strangemusic posted:That's probably it. add me on Steam, foxmedik edit, im on right now and i will give you some rolento practice
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My Ultra Bible finally shipped, hooray! I still won't get to play Ultra, or anything on my PS3, for a few more days. Boo. Anybody just starting Ultra on PS3 feel free to add me. I'm still not good but have finally moved beyond total scrub level. PSN Static_Rook I'd like to try and get a decent size lobby going sometime next week if everyone hasn't switched over to PC.
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Holy crap someone fight me on PC please http://steamcommunity.com/id/bebopaloobop/
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Holy crap someone fight me on PC please Please fight this man, the literal best SF4 player in the state that he lives in
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best player from fresno status
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I've been trying to play Poison under severe lag and I learned absolutely nothing except I can also abuse her throw like she was Rose. Also, meaty HP fireball everything.
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I'm so bad at this game. I'm having trouble linking cr.lp, cr,lp -> cr.mp reliably with Elena. I just want to cancel that cr.mp into heavy scratch wheel/spin scythe consistently. It's so satisfying when it actually lands though, haha.
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Trykt posted:Please fight this man, the literal best SF4 player in the state that he lives in lol he lives in oklahoma or some poo poo though but imo he's the best SF4 player on SA other than probably bananaken
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I agree but he is an rear end in a top hat so I don't want to sound like I'm supporting him. gently caress u bebo
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interrodactyl posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1w26HYH8eQ they should have hugo be the only character in the game who can still parry since he is completely irrelevant without them
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