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Oops: http://www.inquisitr.com/1396339/gordon-ramsay-empire-bleeding-near-bankruptcy/ "Ramsay, famous for assisting restaurant and hotel owners turn their fortunes around using a combination of bombast and bellicose language, shows his holdings almost $50 million in debt without having made a profit for a few years now." "LISTEN UP, DONKEYS! I'M GONNA TELL YOU HOW TO MAKE ~MILLIONS*~ IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS!" * Disclaimer: Please note that Mr. Ramsay did not specify whether he meant profit or loss of 'millions.' BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Oops: http://www.inquisitr.com/1396339/gordon-ramsay-empire-bleeding-near-bankruptcy/ Uh, duh. Everyone knows this. The only reason he does so many US TV shows is because he puts his insane earnings into his restaurants to keep them afloat. The food industry is brutal even to top class restaurants. Even el Bulli closed after being named one of the greatest restaurants in the world. His first New York place was a huge failure when it started because no one wanted to eat at a British style restaurant. He spent months going back and forth between the UK and the US working on the menu, firing staff, and trying to get the place functional. The restaurants he has closed usually coming down to feuds with other partners or they are losing so much money it doesn't make sense to continue. His Scotland restaurant he opened up after his 3 Michelin Stars bombed hard, and he closed it real quick. Everyone Gordon sees on KN has already mortgaged their house and convinced others to loan them money to keep it afloat; even when his operations are at a loss Ramsay would never commit essential personal assets to a business. Ramsay runs some successful restaurants, some lackluster ones, but since his empire expanded to more then food service taking huge losses aren't an issue unless its 5+ years in. Plus the US TV companies are just throwing money at him to do shows.
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Well, it does say "Ramsay also has more than $8.4 million in personal guarantees sunk into the company." But also, "The documents released only relate to Ramsay’s British business." Oh. Well, never mind.
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Aug 7, 2014 08:54
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To be totally fair to Ramsay, the places they pick on Kitchen Nightmares have such blatant issues, that even you or I could go in, tell them to clean, use fresh ingredients, fire the jerk, and (if we had the bankroll,) renovate the place for the first time in 20-30 years. Point being, there's a difference between fixing a local family place where they scream at each other and use the microwave, and an entire global fine dining empire.
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Try that again...OmegaBR posted:To be totally fair to Ramsay, the places they pick on Kitchen Nightmares have such blatant issues, that even you or I could go in, tell them to clean, use fresh ingredients, fire the jerk, and (if we had the bankroll,) renovate the place for the first time in 20-30 years.
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Aug 7, 2014 11:56
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Seasons 3 and 4 of US Kitchen Nightmares are up on Netflix (US) uncensored, it's pretty good stuff.
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Okay, I just read the entire thread, and I only actually watch Kitchen Nightmares. I can make a gargantuan post after I catch my breath, right? Right. I only discovered KN after the ABC episode, and I've been marathon-watching it since then. In that format, the formula does become obvious after awhile. I'm not surprised that he decided to pull the plug--maybe a little surprised that Fox didn't try to keep him on until they’d run it completely into the ground, but they have other shows to put him on. I was pretty let down by this season. The return to ABC was mostly rehash and YouTube memes. The Mangia Mangia episode was a mindfuck, but mostly because I couldn’t believe that Ramsay would actually go there. After the anticlimax of a premiere, it reinforced to me that they were really scraping the bottom of the barrel. A faux-Italian restaurant in a former fast-food facility, run entirely by stupid white trash, and it sucks? Who knew? It was mainly interesting because I don’t think Ramsay’s ever been to a restaurant where it seems that not a single person working there has ever enjoyed good food, much less cooked it. I don’t think the problem was that they could never top ABC, though. ABC was a trainwreck, but it’s pretty obvious that Amy and Samy are trainwrecks in every aspect of their lives, and that this is obvious to anyone who has ever talked to them for more than 30 seconds. The most memorable people on the show are the ones who act normal enough that there’s a bit of mystery to unearthing their crazy problems. With Amy and Samy the only mystery is how they’ve avoided landing in prison again. pentyne posted:The biggest problem in every US restaurant on KN is inventory management. Either you get micromanaging owners like Zeke's that demand everything be cooked and portioned in plastic bags, or no one involved cares and the kitchen is a festering mess. One family restaurant where the lazy brother was the chef had 3+ months worth of frozen meat products packed into the freezer and his excuse was "Well I didn't want to run out". pentyne posted:One of my favorites was Zekes, where the old owner had to sell after Katarina and the new couple that bought it forced the same chefs to use frozen shrimp and other poo poo ingredients to cut costs, in addition to creating their own lovely oyster dish and putting it on the menu. A popular restaurant with the same cooking staff was turned into a shithole because the new owners insisted on everything being done their way. raditts posted:IIRC, season 1 douchebag "30 FLAVOR COMBINATIONS" Sebastian of the now-defunct "Sebastian's" claimed he originally auditioned to be a Hell's Kitchen contestant, but they turned him down and offered to put him on Kitchen Nightmares instead. Knowing that fat gently caress, that could very well be total bullshit though. "People come here for our concept!" (His concept is mix-and-match canned ingredients on thawed dough.) "I'm serious, this is my family's livelihood!" (He drinks beer with his friends during dinner service.) “My restaurant is a young who’s-who of Hollywood!” (Everyone who works there is a struggling wannabe actor.) “One day my pizzas will be in grocery stores!” (Everything in his pizza came from a grocery store.) 1st AD posted:I'm catching up on older US Kitchen Nightmares episodes, and holy gently caress the Burger Kitchen episode was depressing. Dad literally stole $250k from the son and is not self-aware enough to realize he is repeating the sins of his father (a man he wrote a loving book about), even after giving the drat book to Gordon. Pope Corky the IX posted:Was that the one where the son was losing his hair and his mind because his parents kept asking for money to keep the place open after he had already given them something like $50,000? Pope Corky the IX posted:Holy loving poo poo. I didn't remember it being that bad. Didn't they also act like his fiancee was this awful person for trying to tell them to stop ruining their lives? Pope Corky the IX posted:The Black Pearl in Manhattan was also quite good. The one owner seemed hellbent on the place closing, maybe for an insurance scam or something, the way he was 100% against anything that would actually improve the restaurant. I think it's somewhere in the first season. pentyne posted:Black Pearl has one of the best owners, in that the one guy absolutely refused accountability for anything and outright claimed that Canadian and Maine lobsters were identical. He was probably the only owner who after everything still tried to talk down to Ramsay and didn't think any of the changes were good. 1st AD posted:The Mill Street guy was trying to make poo poo like Elk meat Quesasillas
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Halloween Jack posted:
Many places would make complicated dishes, like lasagnas, in huge quantities, then just portion and freeze them. The biggest offender was Michon. The owner had the highest quality top tier smoker in the back, and they smoke wings daily but they stored everything and sold the older wings first. Ramsay even went out into the back, grabbed the just finished wings directly from the smoker to taste them, and they looked absolutely amazing. Cut back to the kitchen and he pulls 100+ pounds of old, dry wings from the fridges and lines them up on the counters. As bad as some of the owner/chefs get, nothing tops the lackadaisical owners who just float around their restaurant smiling and laughing like nothing is wrong, not overseeing staff in the slightest as the places hemorrhages money. Obviously, people who know how to manage staff or keep the place running in order aren't going to show up on KN, but its amazing how bad the places featured in the show get. Arguing over frozen food being the same as fresh, can't find fresh produce in their area, store-bought meals, microwaving everything, refusing to let the chef set the menu, etc. At a certain point when your business is in a downturn you adjust and adapt or give up. The sheer egos ofn the people featured in KN makes me wonder how they coasted through life to this point. That confrontational rear end in a top hat from the Black Pearl must have inherited a lot of money because I can't see him making his own fortune with that attitude. Zekes is one of my all time favorites, because it was the exact same staff that had been there for years, and when that new couple bought it and dictated all the changes was when the place turned to garbage. The same cooks who were putting out food that filled the restaurant every night now had to cook frozen, pre-portioned food and the community stopped going to a local favorite. Halloween Jack posted:Joe Nagy is the epitome of a guy who watches Iron Chef and thinks that cuisine means weird combinations of ingredients and gimmicks. That guy was just a straight up prick. He owns a farm nearby and still buys frozen meat? He could literally serve the meat days after the animal was killed if he made the effort. Still there were crazier owners. The former waitress who bought the restaurant from the previous owner thinking she could run the place easily after working in it. The flabby belly dancer who would put on belly dancing shows in the evenings. That one rear end in a top hat who treated his step-son like poo poo, and sat out in his car and had the servers bring him his food. The Greek guy who had his 5 children working in the place and they wanted to leave but if they did the place would fail so they stuck around out of guilt. pentyne fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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pentyne posted:As bad as some of the owner/chefs get, nothing tops the lackadaisical owners who just float around their restaurant smiling and laughing like nothing is wrong, not overseeing staff in the slightest as the places hemorrhages money. quote:Zekes is one of my all time favorites, because it was the exact same staff that had been there for years, and when that new couple bought it and dictated all the changes was when the place turned to garbage. The same cooks who were putting out food that filled the restaurant every night now had to cook frozen, pre-portioned food and the community stopped going to a local favorite. quote:Still there were crazier owners. The former waitress who bought the restaurant from the previous owner thinking she could run the place easily after working in it. The flabby belly dancer who would put on belly dancing shows in the evenings. That one rear end in a top hat who treated his step-son like poo poo, and sat out in his car and had the servers bring him his food. The Greek guy who had his 5 children working in the place and they wanted to leave but if they did the place would fail so they stuck around out of guilt.
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Halloween Jack, did your marathon of the show include the UK version? If you haven't watched it you really should. It's a whole different animal. The horrible woman from Piccolo Teatro must be seen to be believed, and at last report was a prostitute. Brocktoon fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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I've only seen a couple episodes of the UK version, and I can already tell it's not the same show at all. With the emphasis on food, and on helping dysfunctional restaurants (as opposed to pretending to repair trainwrecks to functional trains) I think I will enjoy it as a palate cleanser. Hey Propaganda Machine, what roux recipe do you use for your mac and cheese?
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Halloween Jack posted:The awful manager, whether or not they're the owner, is one of the unsung antiheroes of KN. I don't notice people singling them out as often as delusional owners and bad chefs. They actually go hand-in-hand with bad owners, because while bad owners resist change because of their "regulars," bad managers usually think that their job is just to drift around saying hello to people. That creepy old ouzo-drinking guy from the sports bar is a great example. Really, people come to eat at this restaurant to see you? Enough of them for you to be paid $100k a year to mingle with them? I guarantee you half of that guy's "regulars" just tolerated him. Absolutely, and I've worked as a waiter in a place like that. A "manager" who would spend all night sitting at the bar chatting with the bartenders gradually getting wasted, then at the end of the night felt justified in taking 10% of our tips. During a busy Saturday night(the place did good business on weekends but was empty the rest of the week) she might have made a handful of appearances in the dining room to pacify especially angry customers but that's about it as far as actual job duties went. Word was she was making about $100,000 a year, but who knows.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7eMlOAs20 Gordon calls Jaimee's dad...
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Scott808 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7eMlOAs20 Hahah she was trying to give out Miiiiiiiiiiikes phone number in camera
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There we go, finally caught up on all the Ramsay shows. Hell's Kitchen: I rooted for Jason but that final was just such a massive winner's edit for Scott that there wasn't any element of surprise left at the end. Masterchef: So I'm understanding I might be alone in this opinion here, but I really like Jaimee. I don't think there's any real chance she'll actually win, but she's a good cook and not a terrible person. At this point I think her and Leslie are my favourites. (and I honestly think Jaimee's pretty cute too  )
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I agree with you about Jaimee, I thought she was adorable and when her works been shown it usually seems to be exceptional. There's no way she's going to win though with the amount of attention she's had and especially if they cut that scene in favour of panning to the stripper some more.
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http://www.inkedmag.com/qa-masterchef-contestants-jaimee-vitolo-daniel-mcguffey/quote:[/quoteINKED: Which contestant is your best friend and ally?
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It's been a while since I checked in on this thread, but I saw the most recent/last episodes of MC US and HK respectively and I have some questions. *Were there any hints of Joy just freaking out of nowhere or did that just suddenly happen? And is there more to the story afterwards that I didn't hear about, because holy poo poo she threw away the win over NOTHING. *Is Leslie supposed to be the villain of the season? Because when he swapped the rolling pin for the machine it seemed like Daniel or whatever was the actual annoying rear end in a top hat, and that Leslie's just been given the villain role because he antagonizes people, even if he doesn't seem to be all that bad a guy. *How in the holy hell did Scott win?
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Nothing has come out about the Joy thing afaik, but I hope we get the dirt someday. Leslie is definitely the jerk of the season. "He antagonizes people" is a quick route to being the bad guy / the disliked rear end in a top hat.
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Prozach posted:*How in the holy hell did Scott win? Joy meltdowned her way out of contention, the producers decided Rochelle wasn't worthy, and no way in hell was Beardo going to win it.
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Anne Whateley posted:Nothing has come out about the Joy thing afaik, but I hope we get the dirt someday. Yeah, but when he did the "you want the rolling pin?" shtick it didn't seem that much worse than what every single Mystery Box winner does in that scenario. I dunno, he seems annoying, but in that episode he didn't seem like this gigantic rear end in a top hat who's sabotaging things and whining about how his food is unquestionably the best. He took his aggression out on Daniel, and based on his kinda dickish remarks back to him, I don't blame him. Again though, haven't watched the whole season, so maybe there's a LOT of other stuff that I'm missing.
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I dunno, the whole not even trying to pronounce Ahran's name properly was pretty dickish.
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Halloween Jack posted:I've only seen a couple episodes of the UK version, and I can already tell it's not the same show at all. With the emphasis on food, and on helping dysfunctional restaurants (as opposed to pretending to repair trainwrecks to functional trains) I think I will enjoy it as a palate cleanser. UK Kitchen Nightmares was so much more satisfying to me. Especially when I find out the restaurant in question survived after turning things around. Whereas with a lot of the US episodes, I find myself thinking "yeah, you probably should be out of business and should sell your restaurant to someone competent/sane/not a horrible person, it'd be better for your staff and customers." Scott808 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7eMlOAs20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3FlbAye-WY Gordon sits between the stations and chats with Jaimee about tattoos and her boyfriend. Her voice sounds much more normal when she's not nervous as hell. I wish they kept deleted scenes like these instead of re-running footage after the commercial break and editing in villain arcs. Jaimee the cool, drama-free cook or Scottish Francis gushing over his weird, sometimes wonderful gastonomical ideas interests me more than Leslie v. Ahran/Daniel/whoever else the producers decide is his arch-nemesis of the week.
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Jaimee seems insanely nervous to be on TV, but comes off as a really fun person once she breaks from that fear. Contrast that to all the other people who are just projecting extremely fake personalities or being openly antagonistic. Her and Willie come off as the only "real" people on the show.
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ibntumart posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3FlbAye-WY  this is so adorableIt makes me kind of frustrated at the awesome show that this could be vs the drama zone it is now.
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ibntumart posted:UK Kitchen Nightmares was so much more satisfying to me. Especially when I find out the restaurant in question survived after turning things around. See, I'd gladly watch Masterchef if it had
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Nope, not awkward for Willie at all
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Ahh, nevermind. I have no idea what they're going to do with that turkey paste.
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Okay, Jaimee escaped my prediction last week so she's on borrowed time already, and her performance as team captain doesn't inspire confidence. This week should do her in but if her team somehow wins I'm going with Victoria to go home.
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If I say I'm officially rooting for Cutter will he go home? Get this guy out of here already.
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I dont understand why Jamie always sounds like she's about to vomit
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Kloaked00 posted:I dont understand why Jamie always sounds like she's about to vomit Spasmic Dysphonia Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Aug 12, 2014 01:18
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^^^^ you bastad Also 
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Aug 12, 2014 01:20
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The odds of a torrential downpour in LA during a Masterchef challenge is astronomically low.
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Kloaked00 posted:
They establish that Leslie has never been on a winning team earlier this episode. They certainly couldn't break that streak!
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Kloaked00 posted:
blue had a strong burger, there were lots of kids kids hate guac and funny cheeses
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What sucks is that everybody on the blue team has proven to be pretty good while the red team had all of the lovely people still left.
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