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Is there a real not-tvtropes sociological name for a large group of people who identify as an interest group yet know nothing about what members of the interest group actually do or how they behave? Something that encompasses libertarians/bitcoiners/etc who think they're financial captains of industry, tropers that think they're academics, social justice warriors, that sort of thing? Charlatanism sort of comes close but doesn't really carry the hive-mind mass-delusion-echo-chamber connotation and calling them cults or quacks doesn't quite fit either.
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Aug 10, 2014 02:38
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Cargo cult. It's a specific term that describes exactly that.
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Aug 10, 2014 02:41
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bucketmouse posted:Is there a real not-tvtropes sociological name for a large group of people who identify as an interest group yet know nothing about what members of the interest group actually do or how they behave? Something that encompasses libertarians/bitcoiners/etc who think they're financial captains of industry, tropers that think they're academics, social justice warriors, that sort of thing? Charlatanism sort of comes close but doesn't really carry the hive-mind mass-delusion-echo-chamber connotation and calling them cults or quacks doesn't quite fit either. Stupidity. Incompetence.
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Aug 10, 2014 02:41
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bucketmouse posted:Is there a real not-tvtropes sociological name for a large group of people who identify as an interest group yet know nothing about what members of the interest group actually do or how they behave? Something that encompasses libertarians/bitcoiners/etc who think they're financial captains of industry, tropers that think they're academics, social justice warriors, that sort of thing? Charlatanism sort of comes close but doesn't really carry the hive-mind mass-delusion-echo-chamber connotation and calling them cults or quacks doesn't quite fit either. Cargo cult, or, in the corporate world, middle management.
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Aug 10, 2014 02:48
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Annointed posted:Oh hell where the gently caress do I start? I mean, even setting aside that people did point how half-assed it was (in the two posts total between the medal and your post about it), who needs a detail-by-detail dissection of every single element to get that it's stupid and ugly? It's friggin' self-evident.
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Aug 10, 2014 03:20
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Sham bam bamina! posted:By clicking the little X at the top of your browser window and going outside for a bit? Yeah I overreacted, my apologies. It's just that this sort of thing is something I'm really passionate about. Logos that cover the ideals of a group fascinate me and Tropers not seeing why there is so much they could do with this is disheartening. When I typed "no one" I meant to say "tropers", well that's what I get for not reading over my posts twice. Annointed fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 04:09
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FrozenVent posted:Please link a source Christ, Reddit, could you at least leave Fallout alone? Please? I mean, I know that there are probably dozens of neckbeards downloading mods where you can rape Cook-Cook, but do you have to call attention] to it? And then that loving SMUG "perhaps it is you who are in the wrong"  Jesus CHRIST.Reddit is literally the worst guys.
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Aug 10, 2014 05:46
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Byde posted:This post is not from TvTropes specifically, but the site has nearly 9000 words (not including the intro text) on bad fanfic which manages to have an ebook and Deviantart-level "cover" art (which won't show here and I don't feel like converting them to Imgur) made by this chucklefuck. The site is definitely worth looking at if you love really long lists of boring-rear end tropes. The intro text makes it obvious just why Tropers love it: quote:Just to give prospective readers an idea of how long it is, the first 100K words alone cover just the first 24 hours of the story. Despite its length, To the Stars will capture your interest if you're at all interested in realistic assessment of how would the existence and eventual public acceptance of Puella Magi affect mankind for the next few centuries, and what would it look like if magical girls were starring in rather hard Military Science-Fiction set in an elaborate, massively detailed world of the 25th century. Hugely long, and it's all HARD MILITARY SF that can convince sad dudes that this derivative of a genre intended for 5-year-old girls is really for them? Yep, that's troper bait. (Fun fact: checking the included fanfiction.net link indicates the story is 413,798 words long, in 33 chapters, and doesn't look to be done. It's been worked on for almost three years at this point. Christ on a loving cracker, how basically empty does your life have to be for you to spend three years producing 3/4-of-War-and-Peace-worth of fanfiction about DARK EDGY MAGICAL GIRLS, NOW WITH SPACE MILITARIES? Is this Major Tom?)
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Aug 10, 2014 06:10
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It can't be Major Tom's work, that would imply he actually writes things rather than just sperging out about details that literally no one else, not even  cares about. I doubt that Major Tom has even written two-thousand words of his abomination, just the few snippets he posts on the forums every once in a while.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:40
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Don Gato posted:It can't be Major Tom's work, that would imply he actually writes things rather than just sperging out about details that literally no one else, not even Yeah, I posted that and then realized "poo poo, it can't be Major Tom, that would imply Major Tom was capable of writing, not just daydreaming about having written." As pitiful as these mega-wordcount fanfics inevitably are, at least they involve some form of attempted creative endeavor.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:43
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From the Older Than They Think index of "Settings":quote:Many people think that eating international cuisine is something that came about in the 1980's.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:52
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tacodaemon posted:From the Older Than They Think index of "Settings": To be fair there are people who are astounded that there was civilization three thousand years ago, then again they're fools but who's counting?
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Aug 10, 2014 07:00
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Remember that really fun arcade game, Golden Axe? It has a page!quote:Amazonian Beauty: Tyris Flare, the Zuburokas and of course Sarah Barn. If you squint, Dora the Centaur in Death Adder's Revenge (more so when she gets on a beast and morphs into a human). It takes two tropes before they want to gently caress a centaur.
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Aug 10, 2014 07:43
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Annointed posted:To be fair there are people who are astounded that there was civilization three thousand years ago, then again they're fools but who's counting?
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Aug 10, 2014 08:03
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Wait, what? That's the later days of ancient Egypt, isn't it? Who's surprised by that? The same sort of people who think eating foreign food was invented more recently than the Atari 2600, I'd guess.
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Aug 10, 2014 08:55
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bucketmouse posted:Is there a real not-tvtropes sociological name for a large group of people who identify as an interest group yet know nothing about what members of the interest group actually do or how they behave? Something that encompasses libertarians/bitcoiners/etc who think they're financial captains of industry, tropers that think they're academics, social justice warriors, that sort of thing? Charlatanism sort of comes close but doesn't really carry the hive-mind mass-delusion-echo-chamber connotation and calling them cults or quacks doesn't quite fit either.
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Aug 10, 2014 09:07
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tacodaemon posted:From the Older Than They Think index of "Settings": I love that there are apparently hotel autists just like there are for trains and planes, and this one is ready to denounce the insidious urban legend that the first Holiday Inn Express was built in 1991.
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Aug 10, 2014 09:12
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The Hypocrite page has this for its picture: It's kind of funny and it illustrates the meaning well, but then there's the caption: quote:Can't You Read the Sign? It says "No Signs Allowed"...oh, wait... Thanks, , for over-explaining the joke despite having a trope specifically about not doing this.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:28
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Runcible Cat posted:I think of them as granfalloons, but I read Kurt Vonnegut way too young. That fits really well and it makes me rather happy to find out that Wikipedia's entry for it links to a handful of social psychology research papers where it's been adopted as an academic term.
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Aug 10, 2014 17:20
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Antivehicular posted:The site is definitely worth looking at if you love really long lists of boring-rear end tropes. The intro text makes it obvious just why Tropers love it: That is absolutely nothing compared to a wrestling story that's been going on for a decade and still updated weekly. It's over a million words long. projecthalaxy posted:https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2094087/1/Hugs-and-Kisses
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Aug 10, 2014 17:22
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BlueDude posted:The Hypocrite page has this for its picture: This has already been removed. Within minutes of your post, in fact. 
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Aug 10, 2014 17:34
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SerialKilldeer posted:There's a subsection of "criminals" on a subpage called "Other Pencilnecks": Maybe this troper is LF as gently caress and proud to be associated with assassinating Ronald Reagan.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:21
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There's a trope called Eagleland Osmosis that refers to people outside the United States expecting things to work they way they do on American TV shows, such as referring to judges as "your honor" or expecting to be read their rights when arrested. The end of the introduction says, "Please note that while this trope is common in Real Life, examples here should only be from the media," but nonetheless there is a section of "Real Life" examples anyway.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:34
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/RealityIsUnrealistic/RealLifequote:An audience member at a late showing of Rocky Horror Picture Show was asked to leave the theater for being a Tim Curry impersonator. The member? Tim Curry. I too am familiar with the "NO TIM CURRY IMPERSONATORS" sign that is a fixture of American movie theater entrances.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:54
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poptart_fairy posted:This has already been removed. Within minutes of your post, in fact. Strange, I could have sworn the paywall was still up. On a related note, I do recall that captions tend to get added and deleted without much fanfare. (And, as of this writing, there's still a single right bracket left on that page. Whoever deleted it was clearly half-assing it.)
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Aug 10, 2014 19:36
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BlueDude posted:Strange, I could have sworn the paywall was still up. 
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Aug 10, 2014 19:39
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I just checked. It is. What if Fast Eddie was actually one of the largest contributors to this thread
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Aug 10, 2014 19:51
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Fast Eddie is a master hackinator, obviously he hacked SA HQ to bring down the paywall to read this thread.
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Aug 10, 2014 19:59
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The page's edit history says the caption was removed by "LoonShia".LoonShia posted:I haven't read any of the bullshit you guys have quoted, for my sanity's sake. Does that make me a bad person? 
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Aug 10, 2014 20:06
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sweeperbravo posted:What if Fast Eddie was actually one of the largest contributors to this thread I know you are probably joking, but he seems too egotistical for that. I don't think anyone who's been extensively featured here would want to hang out in the the thread that mocked them so much, without rushing to their own defense.
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Aug 10, 2014 20:07
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WickedHate posted:I know you are probably joking, but he seems too egotistical for that. I don't think anyone who's been extensively featured here would want to hang out in the the thread that mocked them so much, without rushing to their own defense. Oh yeah, I'm definitely kidding. Unless he was more brilliant than I can imagine and the entire "Fast Eddie" is just a persona he's maintained in order to run that site, deliberately making bad code and bad decisions while chugging along happily at a day job under his real name and coming here to laugh with us at his own fake self. 
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Aug 10, 2014 20:12
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sweeperbravo posted:Oh yeah, I'm definitely kidding. Unless he was more brilliant than I can imagine and the entire "Fast Eddie" is just a persona he's maintained in order to run that site, deliberately making bad code and bad decisions while chugging along happily at a day job under his real name and coming here to laugh with us at his own fake self. stop spoiling my fanfiction pls
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Aug 10, 2014 20:15
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Lottery of Babylon posted:The page's edit history says the caption was removed by "LoonShia". Smoking Crow posted:THE RULES Um...
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Aug 10, 2014 20:15
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BlueDude posted:The Hypocrite page has this for its picture: No see it's lampshading the show, don't tell trope and
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Aug 10, 2014 20:22
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Tropers will just revert the caption on the Hypocrite page because for them a page having more words means that it is inherently better.
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Aug 10, 2014 20:35
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Speaking of  , there's another "Just for Fun" page that suffers heavily from this problem: "Trope Name Injokes", purportedly a page where tropers mock themselves.Some choice quotes: quote:Discussion of how the trope relates to anime or manga, even if it doesn't. quote:* Example after example about Obscure Anime That Was Never Released Outside Japan. quote:An example which bugs you because you wanted to be the one to add it. This one sums up a part of the troper mentality unintentionally well, methinks. quote:Robin Williams example, probably added by Lurkerbunny. Remember her? It's been a while. quote:Fan Fiction example of this trope, supposedly not one written by the editor writing this example. quote:Snarky example from Snark Bait: The Series that would be heavily edited if it weren't for the fact that most tropers agree. Here we get to see one of the side effects of the "ALWAYS BE POSITIVE GODDAMNIT" mentality, and how the only way to escape it is to be bad by popular consensus. (See also: the So Bad, It's Horrible pages) quote:* Obligatory example with My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. I honestly kinda like this one. quote:Example from Super Mario 64 using a quote specific to the DS remake with a link to Updated Re-release or Super Title 64 Advance. This one, however, is slightly baffling. Is this really a problem that needed to be documented? Even when tropers try to make fun of themselves, they still can't escape their  nature.I'll leave you one more quote to cap off this long as hell post: quote:Semi-shoehorned example from Calvin & Hobbes: The Series. "semi-shoehorned"
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Aug 10, 2014 21:08
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I knew reusing the same username on different sites would come back to haunt me. Well, see ya!
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Aug 10, 2014 21:08
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LoonShia posted:I knew reusing the same username on different sites would come back to haunt me. Stop. Don't go.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:13
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LoonShia posted:I knew reusing the same username on different sites would come back to haunt me. It's okay, no one really cares And if they do they should relax and go outside for a while, take a nice walk around the block or something edit: That rule is basically there to stop people from deliberately going over there to stir up new poop as if there isn't already easily accessible poop just waiting to be ladled into our mouths
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