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Asymmetrikon: Oct 30, 2009; I believe you're a big dork!

well, relative to VASSAL, which is probably the worst piece of usability I've seen in a long while

# ? Aug 8, 2014 01:24

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 14:27

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

Asymmetrikon posted:

well, relative to VASSAL, which is probably the worst piece of usability I've seen in a long while

depends on the module

the fire in the lake module is really good btw and tabletop simulator can't replicate its features

# ? Aug 8, 2014 02:15

Asymmetrikon: Oct 30, 2009; I believe you're a big dork!

no, I mean, the stuff outside the modules is just loving garbage (UI-wise). The best option would be for someone to make a VASSAL but not poo poo, really.

# ? Aug 8, 2014 03:19

ConorT: Sep 24, 2007

Panzeh posted:

fire in the lake vassal is out bitches

http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Fire_In_The_Lake

cool. who wants to play this this weekend

# ? Aug 8, 2014 03:24

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

ConorT posted:

cool. who wants to play this this weekend

I probably will

# ? Aug 8, 2014 03:35

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

Asymmetrikon posted:

no, I mean, the stuff outside the modules is just loving garbage (UI-wise). The best option would be for someone to make a VASSAL but not poo poo, really.

clicking load module is too hard ugh

# ? Aug 8, 2014 03:44

Scyther: Dec 29, 2010

VASSAL isnt a wonderful piece of software by any measure but it's definitely better than tabletop simulator for stuff like this

# ? Aug 8, 2014 04:16

Asymmetrikon: Oct 30, 2009; I believe you're a big dork!

Panzeh posted:

clicking load module is too hard ugh

i'm glad you don't work in UX

# ? Aug 8, 2014 04:26

stoutfish: Oct 8, 2012; by zen death robot

mapgames

# ? Aug 8, 2014 04:29

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

Scyther posted:

VASSAL isnt a wonderful piece of software by any measure but it's definitely better than tabletop simulator for stuff like this

yeah this is true

vassal, much like pimping, ain't easy but it's necessary

# ? Aug 8, 2014 04:34

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

UberJew posted:

you're hosed, just buy fire in the lake (like right now, before it comes out and immediately goes out of stock everywhere)

fields of fire hit p500 for a reprint in 2012 and isn't going to be out until next year at the earliest

cuba libre hasn't even hit p500 yet

but i'm never gonna get people to play a full game of fire lake, while cuba libre is shorter/easier. time to suck dicks behind the game preserve for 100bux or just convince people to play vassal in person i guess

ConorT posted:

cool. who wants to play this this weekend

don't have a ton of experience with coin (see above) but i'd prob play on sunday afternoon

# ? Aug 8, 2014 05:36

Tekopo: Oct 24, 2008; When you see it, you'll shit yourself.

StashAugustine posted:

but i'm never gonna get people to play a full game of fire lake, while cuba libre is shorter/easier. time to suck dicks behind the game preserve for 100bux or just convince people to play vassal in person i guess

don't have a ton of experience with coin (see above) but i'd prob play on sunday afternoon

the short scenario in Fire in the Lake is even shorter than the short scenario in Cuba Libre

the full scenario is just as long as the extended scenario in ADP

# ? Aug 8, 2014 07:54

Fellis: Feb 14, 2012; Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

How can posts be so terrible in the bad thread? How many variations of the bad "FFG GOAN TAKE ALL MY MONE :saddowns:

" joke do we need?

# ? Aug 9, 2014 16:49

Effectronica: May 31, 2011; Fallen Rib

Fellis posted:

How can posts be so terrible in the bad thread? How many variations of the bad "FFG GOAN TAKE ALL MY MONE " joke do we need?

Are you familiar with the Arthur C. Clarke short story "The Nine Billion Names of God"?

# ? Aug 9, 2014 16:50

Scyther: Dec 29, 2010

Fellis posted:

How can posts be so terrible in the bad thread? How many variations of the bad "FFG GOAN TAKE ALL MY MONE " joke do we need?

it looks pretty much like "x-wing but zoomed out", and i guess x-wing is pretty popular or something? idk.

# ? Aug 9, 2014 21:22

Fellis: Feb 14, 2012; Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

Effectronica posted:

Are you familiar with the Arthur C. Clarke short story "The Nine Billion Names of God"?

I am now, very apt

Scyther posted:

it looks pretty much like "x-wing but zoomed out", and i guess x-wing is pretty popular or something? idk.

Its pretty much battlefleet gothic scale, which from what I understand was another one of the GW properties that was good but didn't pull in the bux and was dropped

# ? Aug 9, 2014 21:37

ConorT: Sep 24, 2007

FFG is pretty much a minis/CCG/RPG company now. The new xcom game is probably a cynical experiment to see if that license can carry a poo poo product before they greenlight a lovely xcom minis game, mark my words.

# ? Aug 10, 2014 04:05

Fellis: Feb 14, 2012; Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

so bgg is still designed like poo poo intentionally right? They could have upgraded but there was backlash from the community because nerds are the worst people?

I've heard people defend the layout and other stuff and lmao "you get used to it after awhile" is an argument that can be applied to venereal disease also!!!

# ? Aug 10, 2014 07:59

stoutfish: Oct 8, 2012; by zen death robot

nerds like bad games and get very uncomfortable around good ones.

# ? Aug 10, 2014 08:02

Bullbar: Apr 18, 2007; The Aristocrats!

i saw a thread today titled 'Hanabi - A great game, but is it fun?' on BGG

# ? Aug 10, 2014 09:02

Broken Loose: Dec 25, 2002; PROGRAM
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CNN Sports Ticker posted:

i saw a thread today titled 'Hanabi - A great game, but is it fun?' on BGG

uh this is actually kind of true, hanabi is well-designed mechanically but has a lot of mechanics that restrict players in psychologically negative ways

i know that you're trying to make a joke here but the real joke is that "fun" can be identified as a series of positive psychological responses; it's just that 99% of activities provoke them

# ? Aug 10, 2014 09:14

Broken Loose: Dec 25, 2002; PROGRAM
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i actually cringed when i listened to angercast #2 when i described mage knight as "incredibly well-made but not fun" as if the audience was supposed to understand what i meant by that last word

# ? Aug 10, 2014 09:16

Bullbar: Apr 18, 2007; The Aristocrats!

Broken Loose posted:

uh this is actually kind of true, hanabi is well-designed mechanically but has a lot of mechanics that restrict players in psychologically negative ways

i know that you're trying to make a joke here but the real joke is that "fun" can be identified as a series of positive psychological responses; it's just that 99% of activities provoke them

Good response, but was it fun?

# ? Aug 10, 2014 09:27

Fellis: Feb 14, 2012; Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

Broken Loose posted:

the real joke is that "fun" can be identified as a series of positive psychological responses; it's just that 99% of activities provoke them

CNN Sports Ticker posted:

Good response, but was it fun?

I just had a flashback to those "will it blend?!" Videos from 2007 We spent 14 hours playing twilight imperium...but was it fun???

# ? Aug 10, 2014 09:32

Fellis: Feb 14, 2012; Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

Someone photoshop king phil on blendco guy grinding up cards against humanity with the subtitles "this game is garbage, but will it fun?"

Tia

# ? Aug 10, 2014 09:35

Servoret: Nov 8, 2009

Broken Loose posted:

uh this is actually kind of true, hanabi is well-designed mechanically but has a lot of mechanics that restrict players in psychologically negative ways

For instance?

# ? Aug 10, 2014 13:08

silvergoose: Mar 18, 2006; IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS

Servoret posted:

For instance?

"I can't do anything useful on my turn, giving you a hint is a waste, so I guess I'll discard and pray and oh god it was the other yellow four we're hosed"

# ? Aug 10, 2014 13:24

discount cathouse: Mar 25, 2009

That's actually cool

# ? Aug 10, 2014 13:38

Bullbar: Apr 18, 2007; The Aristocrats!

Is it fascism yet posted:

That's actually cool

# ? Aug 10, 2014 13:47

Servoret: Nov 8, 2009

silvergoose posted:

"I can't do anything useful on my turn, giving you a hint is a waste, so I guess I'll discard and pray and oh god it was the other yellow four we're hosed"

I don't know if I would call that a psychologically traumatizing experience. I also don't really see that situation that much as far as not having anything useful to do; the problem I see more often is the wrong people having to discard, like "I really need to give you a hint, but I can't, so instead you're going to waste the hint I just gave you on something really dumb instead of playing the yellow four".

# ? Aug 10, 2014 14:49

silvergoose: Mar 18, 2006; IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS

I mean, I find it cool, but it's certainly stressful and can make some people react in negative ways, I was just providing an example.

# ? Aug 10, 2014 15:10

Bobby The Rookie: Jun 2, 2005

It's mostly restrictive in the way you're allowed to communicate with people throughout the game, you're really discouraged from talking very much otherwise you might accidentally cheat or forget some critical information.

But again, that's kinda cool.

# ? Aug 10, 2014 17:09

stoutfish: Oct 8, 2012; by zen death robot

um, i play boardgames for fun why would such a game even exist? i guess some people love being toxic and ruining the hobby with their bad games

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:35

Broken Loose: Dec 25, 2002; PROGRAM
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wow only goons could insert the word "psychologically traumatizing" into what i said

basically hanabi discourages creativity and socializing while encouraging frustrating random situations where you have to gamble on whether or not you gently caress the group over

# ? Aug 10, 2014 20:18

Scyther: Dec 29, 2010

it's mechanically interesting but in practice it seems like it usually turns out at best ho-hum and at worst really frustrating

# ? Aug 10, 2014 20:22

Bobby The Rookie: Jun 2, 2005

Scyther posted:

it's mechanically interesting but in practice it seems like it usually turns out at best ho-hum and at worst really frustrating

There's not much variation across each game, which will kill it for me pretty soon. But it was also ten bucks, so who cares.

# ? Aug 10, 2014 20:28

discount cathouse: Mar 25, 2009

i think hanabi is really good card game to play while chilling, drinking and hanging out with friends

# ? Aug 10, 2014 23:56

Fungah!: Apr 30, 2011

Bobby The Rookie posted:

There's not much variation across each game, which will kill it for me pretty soon. But it was also ten bucks, so who cares.

yeah this is pretty much me on hanabi. it's a quick game that's easy to teach, pretty good, and i got it for like ten bucks. it's only seen play three or four times but i feel like i got my money's worth

# ? Aug 11, 2014 01:17

Scyther: Dec 29, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th22kn-wsxg&t=19m0s :nms:

# ? Aug 11, 2014 01:50

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Scyther: Dec 29, 2010

"..and the mechanics, yes they are there, but they are secondary to the fun"

# ? Aug 11, 2014 01:52

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