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ExecuDork posted:What camera? Some cameras do fine at ISO 1000, some look like rear end (and not the good kind of rear end). Sony A77 TheMirage posted:Here are a couple of the zoo pics. I too have the fear of high ISO. With these Zoo pics I just bit the bullet since most of the exhibits are indoor and even the outdoor aviary was low light. This Blue Crowned Motmot is ISO 1600 and I think it's still use-ably sharp. I still am weary over going 1600 even though the 70D does pretty good with ISO. There is something about zooming in on the birds eye even when you have perfect focus and seeing noise that is disconcerting. The nice part of shooting birds in a zoo/aviary (phrasing) is you can always go back and try again.  I've pushed this camera so much higher, this was simply me screwing the pooch. Love the MotMot, I love seeing the individual feather ends. It's just something you normally don't get to see. 
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Stellar Jay. Lots of them at my new place. Finding out what's around here (Evergreen, Colorado, way, way up in the mountains). Stellar Jay by torgeaux, on Flickr
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A hawk decided to watch us eat dinner through our back door, around 15 feet from the house. Just sat and stared for about 30 seconds then took off, letting me shoot through the door. A red-tailed, I think, but I'm still learning my birds. Hawk by mattphilpott, on Flickr  Hawk by mattphilpott, on Flickr Forgive the ugly band down the middle of this one. In a rush to get something before we lost him (her?) I accidentally shot straight through the sash on the door.  Hawk by mattphilpott, on Flickr
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Bubbacub posted:
Where did you find this guy? What's the ID on that? Ibis of some kind? Here is another zoo pic:  Roseate Spoonbill by justincook5376, on Flickr
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TheMirage posted:Where did you find this guy? What's the ID on that? Ibis of some kind? Yeah, it's a white ibis on the beach in Florida.
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Aug 14, 2014 15:42
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I just ordered a Tamzooka. Can't wait to slap it on a mirrorless and a 2x converter for manual 1800mm glory(and really bad IQ)
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TheMirage posted:Where did you find this guy? What's the ID on that? Ibis of some kind? you made me feel compelled to post this.  I will be giving the national aviary another shot. Busy this weekend with a horror con though and I LOVE horror. I'm sure my photography shows that. 
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Huxley posted:A hawk decided to watch us eat dinner through our back door, around 15 feet from the house. Just sat and stared for about 30 seconds then took off, letting me shoot through the door. A red-tailed, I think, but I'm still learning my birds. Now that the juvenile White-tailed Kite has fledged and its family has left Arcata Marsh, I've started stalking the juvenile Belted Kingfishers. One of them has picked a couple favorite perches that are pretty easily accessible, and it's getting used to having me nearby with a camera. When the weather gets less grey, I'm going to try to get some high frame rate footage of it.  queenfisher4 by Redwood Planet, on Flickr  queenfisher7 by Redwood Planet, on Flickr  queenfisher10 by Redwood Planet, on Flickr
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Did anyone get invited to post some bird poo poo pics on some weird Flickr group called "Parting Shots" ? It seems to be nothing but animals making GBS threads, particularly birds.
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Rotten Cookies posted:Did anyone get invited to post some bird poo poo pics on some weird Flickr group called "Parting Shots" ? It seems to be nothing but animals making GBS threads, particularly birds. See the last few pages, there is some pervy dude who owns that group and he invites every person he sees post a picture of a bird pooping (or just the bird's rear end)
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Rotten Cookies posted:Did anyone get invited to post some bird poo poo pics on some weird Flickr group called "Parting Shots" ? It seems to be nothing but animals making GBS threads, particularly birds. I asked about it a page or two ago, and someone else had encountered him, too. Welcome to the wild world of accidental avian scat pornography (specifically for that one dude).
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Rotten Cookies posted:Did anyone get invited to post some bird poo poo pics on some weird Flickr group called "Parting Shots" ? It seems to be nothing but animals making GBS threads, particularly birds. Yup. I think that makes three of us so far, if that happened to Rotten Cookies as well as myself and Huxley. He didn't even favourite a good poop-shot, just a blurry, out of focus, badly-exposed shot of a duck dropping some weight on take-off as she flies away from me. "Parting Shots", the group, includes plenty of the kinds of poop shots we've been fond of (presumably ironically) around here for a while - a bird in mid-flight, shot from a decent range, for example. That guy's photostream, on the other hand, is full of close-ups of various animal anuses, and is somehow much more disgusting as a result.
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ExecuDork posted:Yup. I think that makes three of us so far, if that happened to Rotten Cookies as well as myself and Huxley. His photostream is something else. Where all his favs are just sort of incidental shots, his stream is dozens of pics: same crop, same positioning, same lighting. These are well-lit shots. Almost like studio work, specific and staged in a way you would never be able to make happen on accident. It raises a lot of questions.
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Moon Potato posted:
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 Juvenile Green Heron by justincook5376, on Flickr Juvenile Green Heron by justincook5376, on FlickrCouple shots of what I'm pretty sure is a juvenile green heron. I slowly stalked him for a while but really couldn't get close so the shots are noisy.
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For some reason I seem to only be able to find female Anna's Hummingbirds
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I'm simultaneously thrilled and bummed with this one. Probably the best loon photo I'll ever take, but I'm also a moron who didn't check his camera settings before shooting. I think this will go in the "good enough for facebook" category... Toolik-loon-v2 1741 on Flickr
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Kenshin posted:For some reason I seem to only be able to find female Anna's Hummingbirds INTJ Mastermind posted:Loving this one She didn't show up when I went back during clearer weather with the video gear, but there were tons of snowy egrets feeding in the nearby channels. They get in funny-looking little fights when two of them start stalking the same fish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcWDOCkp9qc Now that the White-tailed Kite juvenile has fledged and its family has left Arcata Marsh, a Red-shouldered Hawk has moved in.  rsh-tree by Redwood Planet, on Flickr A Greater Yellowlegs drinking  yellowlegs-drinking by Redwood Planet, on Flickr Great Egret recoiling after missing a fish  egret-droplets by Redwood Planet, on Flickr I had a Peregrine Falcon dive right by me last week. Autofocus couldn't keep up with it because those things are insanely fast, but this shot came close  peregrine-hello by Redwood Planet, on Flickr Searching through footage from earlier this year, I found a clear view of an American Bittern walking. I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching bitterns do anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gt9M2WrsVc Moon Potato fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Aug 24, 2014 |
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Moon Potato posted:Me too. I've been wondering if the males lose their iridescent head feathers during non-breeding months, but none of the guides I have say anything about that. Someone I ran into yesterday said they think maybe the females are just more territorial than the males and thus easier to find, but I have no idea about the veracity of that statement.
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Speaking of finding female Anna's Hummingbirds... Discovery Park, Seattle, this morning. The lighting was pretty terrible due to some fog, most of these are at ISO 2000-3200  Chestnut-backed Chickadee  Black-throated Gray Warber  Bewick's Wren 
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Moon Potato posted:She didn't show up when I went back during clearer weather with the video gear, but there were tons of snowy egrets feeding in the nearby channels. They get in funny-looking little fights when two of them start stalking the same fish. Look at those yellow feet! When I saw that, I couldn't get the image of big yellow rubber boots out of my mind. I have tried some video. Clearly I have much to learn, especially regarding camera stability. A few days ago a juvenile Swainson's Hawk startled me on my walk home. It flew up off the ground from just around a corner on the side of the path, and landed on a nearby crosswalk sign. It called several times, which I was able to capture on my phone: https://flic.kr/p/oTCumF (I mis-identify it as a Red-Tailed in the video when a passerby asks me about the hawk. Oh well). I went home and grabbed my DSLR and a couple of lenses. The hawk was still sitting there and I messed around with some videos that turned out extra-shakey and I won't bore you with them here. But I was able to follow the hawk around for about 30 minutes as it flew around the neighborhood, eventually landing on the train tracks. I went up there and grabbed some more video and a few stills.  Juvenile Swainson Hawk by Execudork, on FlickrThere was a cat sitting on the side of the tracks, who seemed much more disturbed by me than by the hawk. Until the hawk took off right at me, which seemed to annoy the cat, too. https://flic.kr/p/oB6Euh
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I found a sparrow fledgling this morning on the lawn, he didn't mind me getting nosy. DSC05316.jpg by elliotw2, on Flickr
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ExecuDork posted:There was a cat sitting on the side of the tracks, who seemed much more disturbed by me than by the hawk. Until the hawk took off right at me, which seemed to annoy the cat, too. As far as camera stability goes, having a fluid head tripod is a must if you're going to be tracking a moving subject. They're fairly expensive, which sucks, but once you start using telephoto lenses long enough to frame decent bird shots, every little movement and vibration starts showing up in your footage. For static shots, you can usually get away with a photo tripod and a remote trigger helps to reduce shake when you start and stop recording. Kenshin posted:Someone I ran into yesterday said they think maybe the females are just more territorial than the males and thus easier to find, but I have no idea about the veracity of that statement. Moon Potato fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Aug 25, 2014 |
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Moon Potato posted:As far as camera stability goes, having a fluid head tripod is a must if you're going to be tracking a moving subject. They're fairly expensive, which sucks, but once you start using telephoto lenses long enough to frame decent bird shots, every little movement and vibration starts showing up in your footage. For static shots, you can usually get away with a photo tripod and a remote trigger helps to reduce shake when you start and stop recording.
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Kenshin posted:I've been looking at pistol-grip mounts, though I almost entirely hand-hold for my shots. Do you have any experience with those? I don't have any experience with them, but it's pretty hard to get away with using something like that or even a gimbal/steadicam once you get into longer focal lengths. Stability aside, you're going to be manually focusing, so you'll need one hand on the focus ring and one to aim/control your camera body. I'd recommend something like this as a bare minimum for bird videography. That's the same model I keep around as a backup, and it works decently with around 10lbs of camera/lens on it. Sadly, that's about as cheap as it gets for a real fluid head.
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I have so many bird photos from Kenya to process it's ridiculous, but I figured a good place to start with is the Lilac-breasted Roller -- national bird of Kenya.
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I assume Kenyas come over here and are like, "Oh my god, the colors on these robins and cardinals!"
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I don't know about Africa, but I've talked to a few Australians in Canada and they talk about how the birds here are smaller and less colourful, but have beautiful songs. North American songbirds sing all the drat time compared to Aussie birds, and there are fewer birds in N.A. that just croak at you.
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ExecuDork posted:I don't know about Africa, but I've talked to a few Australians in Canada and they talk about how the birds here are smaller and less colourful, but have beautiful songs. North American songbirds sing all the drat time compared to Aussie birds, and there are fewer birds in N.A. that just croak at you. Maybe there's something evolutionary about that. A beautiful looking bird can be quiet and hide. A beautiful sounding bird can be brown and hide. But all our beautiful looking, beautiful sounding birds got eaten.
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Huxley posted:Maybe there's something evolutionary about that. A beautiful looking bird can be quiet and hide. A beautiful sounding bird can be brown and hide. But all our beautiful looking, beautiful sounding birds got eaten. Misconception, there was a survey done recently to test that very premise and found that while there are certainly species that have a beautiful song and are drab, and species that have beautiful colors but are quiet or boring sounding, there are species that have both. 
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The other wrinkle is migration. There's some argument in the scientific literature about what we've got in temperate North America and temperate Europe. Do we have temperate birds that migrate to the tropics to escape harsh winter conditions, or tropical birds that migrate to the temperate zone to take advantage of reduced competition? This gets tricky to test, for a bunch of reasons - mainly, those aren't really mutually-exclusive hypotheses and observations like "most birds that split their year between warm places" and "migration is metabolically and predator-risk expensive" doesn't address the distinction. Switching gears, has anybody else noticed this year's juvenile hawks are either bold or stupid, and are much easier to approach than their parents? Besides that individual I got shakey video of last week, there have been a few young Swainson's around that I've seen hanging out on urban lawns, lampposts, fences, etc. but all summer their parents have been practically invisible. EDIT: I remembered I had another video! A pair of loons were going past our campsite in July, and when I whistled at them they stopped and starting looking around, then moved closer to us. I had time to set up my 500mm; at the end of the video you can hear myself and my GF whistling some more but by then the loons were wise to our trickery. Also, focus is harder than tracking, apparently. https://flic.kr/p/oTpipT ExecuDork fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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I searched for "ugliest bird" and I found a good set of Potoo pics: http://imgur.com/a/Tl89L?gallery
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ExecuDork posted:The other wrinkle is migration. There's some argument in the scientific literature about what we've got in temperate North America and temperate Europe. Do we have temperate birds that migrate to the tropics to escape harsh winter conditions, or tropical birds that migrate to the temperate zone to take advantage of reduced competition? we've been watching all the fledging birds this year and pretty much all of them to a T are dumb as heck. Crashing into branches, standing in the open not paying attention to anything, begging for food in the open, taking their time eating from feeder when the adults grab something quick and fly off... We got really close to a juvie Cooper's hawk recently because he decided to park himself on a low branch right next to a trail. He didn't seem at all bothered until we got within about 5 or 6 meters, and then he only just flew into some bushes just out of sight nearby. Juvenile birds are just plain thick.
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Kenshin posted:I've been looking at pistol-grip mounts, though I almost entirely hand-hold for my shots. Do you have any experience with those? Don't do it. They might seem like a good idea but they are actually poo poo. For stills with a long lens, a gimbal head is the only way to go. InternetJunky posted:I have so many bird photos from Kenya to process it's ridiculous, but I figured a good place to start with is the Lilac-breasted Roller -- national bird of Kenya. Did you get any good hornbill shots? Hornbills own. 800peepee51doodoo fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Don't do it. They might seem like a good idea but they are actually poo poo. For stills with a long lens, a gimbal head is the only way to go. Good to know. Gimbals are what many videographers often use as well, right? (not that I have any real interest in video right now)
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I don't do video either but I'm thinking the gimbal wouldn't be ideal for that. I think it could work in a pinch but a fluid head would be better for control.
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