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Phlegmish posted:Hopefully Hearts of Iron IV will be a throwback to HOI2 and not HOI3. Just a graphically updated version of Darkest Hour would be amazing. I'd say its 30% DH, 30% HOI3 and 40% totally new stuff
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Luigi Thirty posted:Similarly will I be able to select that I want to build my aircraft carrier out of ice? If I build it in Iceland do I get a construction speed bonus? Will it take attrition damage in tropical climates? I assume you're referring to this? Because you totally should be able to do that.
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Aug 10, 2014 14:34
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podcat posted:I'd say its 30% DH, 30% HOI3 and 40% totally new stuff Is the CGM one of the hoi3 things being kept? Because that owned.
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Aug 10, 2014 15:52
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podcat posted:I think the utterly bat-poo poo insane stuff will have to wait for an expansion. We are trying to keep focused on the actual war first ;D I know that one person's opinion doesn't mean much, but I would absolutely support an expansion that focused on prototypes and other stupid silly poo poo like that.
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Aug 10, 2014 15:57
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Is the CGM one of the hoi3 things being kept? Because that owned. Nah they're keeping the fun bits from HOI3, like, um... PS. No I will never stop being bitter about that pre-order.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:00
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Darksaber posted:I know that one person's opinion doesn't mean much, but I would absolutely support an expansion that focused on prototypes and other stupid silly poo poo like that. It was good enough for BF1942.  (Besides, a weird prototypes expansion would a legit thing to consider for situations where the war runs on longer than OTL; especially considering how the Horten flying wing had early stealth technology in a practical implementation. In an extended (or delayed) Battle of Britain, it would have been a motherfucker.)
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Aug 10, 2014 16:07
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DStecks posted:It was good enough for BF1942. Id be down for a bunch of alt history scenarios. Be nice to have some different setups while waiting for Kaiserriech to get converted over
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Aug 10, 2014 16:15
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I was pretty bored with nothing interesting to do today, so I decided to try and boot up that Victoria 2 random world mod. Decided to start in a Culturally slavic-like absolute monarchy in the Caribbean, and I started to check out the state of everything in my country. I opened the population screen and Holy poo poo. I think I know what I should be doing for the first couple decades.
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VerdantSquire posted:I was pretty bored with nothing interesting to do today, so I decided to try and boot up that Victoria 2 random world mod. Decided to start in a Culturally slavic-like absolute monarchy in the Caribbean, and I started to check out the state of everything in my country. I opened the population screen and Holy poo poo. I think I know what I should be doing for the first couple decades. Coming off of a game with Abyssinia where my conquests were constantly limited by a lack of Jingoism, this makes me incredibly jealous.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:56
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Don't be so jealous; despite the absurd support for Jingoism, I don't actually have access to a political party with the ideology. I only have two military ideologies available to me, in fact: Pro-military by the Conservatives and Reactionaries, and Pacifism by the Liberals and the OTHER conservatives. The random nation mod can create some ... interesting scenarios, it seems. Edit: As a sidenote, what are the best choices for Military tech at the start of the game? I haven't played Victoria 2 in a long time, and even back then I didn't really have much of a clue as to what I was doing. I only have Flintlock rifles in Army tech and Post-Nelsonian Thought in Naval tech. VerdantSquire fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 17:01
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VerdantSquire posted:I was pretty bored with nothing interesting to do today, so I decided to try and boot up that Victoria 2 random world mod. Decided to start in a Culturally slavic-like absolute monarchy in the Caribbean, and I started to check out the state of everything in my country. I opened the population screen and Holy poo poo. I think I know what I should be doing for the first couple decades. Wiping out those Yarvastoiya fuckers? 
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Aug 10, 2014 17:18
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Is the CGM one of the hoi3 things being kept? Because that owned. Unfortunatly not. The one we did for hoi3 was too limited and would take too much time to completely reimplement for hoi4 release even with the basic functionality we had in TFH. If there is interest we got a lot of ideas for how to make a better one at some point after release. Particularly as a great tool for setting up MP and such.
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Aug 10, 2014 17:25
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Mister Adequate posted:Wiping out those Yarvastoiya fuckers? The superior Perkoivoyia race has already conquered half of the vile and disgusting Yarvastoiyans. All they have left is a handful of rump island nations that are prime for the taking! 
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Aug 10, 2014 17:26
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I just hope the diplomacy system from Hoi3 was torn down and rebuilt from scratch. The triangle system wasn't a terrible idea but didn't work in practice because everyone went to allies no matter what you did, plus the whole "every country in the world can influence your politics but you can't do anything about your own". If I want to turn the USA into a fascist dictatorship, give me the means to do so.
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Aug 10, 2014 17:30
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Palleon posted:I just hope the diplomacy system from Hoi3 was torn down and rebuilt from scratch. The triangle system wasn't a terrible idea but didn't work in practice because everyone went to allies no matter what you did, plus the whole "every country in the world can influence your politics but you can't do anything about your own". If I want to turn the USA into a fascist dictatorship, give me the means to do so. It's a wonderful prototype for a Cold War game.
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Aug 10, 2014 17:37
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Eh, I'd rather they just cut the whole "influence politics" thing, it didn't really strike me as realistic or necessary. Government change can be done by event if it makes sense, but for the most part countries should probably just stay the same government type throughout. It was one of the things I didn't like about Kaiserreich - since the strength of the various political alliances is fairly random depennding on what choices are made in events, you can often end up with a WW2 that's over in moments. It'd be cool if there was a file you could easily edit that sets the USA to "Fascist Dictatorship" if that floats your boat. Or a DLC with alt-history events you could pick through or something.
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Aug 10, 2014 17:43
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TBH I keep shifting back and forth between Darkest Hour and HOI3 because while DH's larger provinces/smaller province count and simpler division design makes it easier to play the war, HOI3 lets you assign all the non-war stuff to the AI so you can just focus on pushing counters around.
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Aug 10, 2014 19:11
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My problem with that is the non-war stuff is the whole point. There's games that do pushing counters around way, way better than HoI does so having fun with the production/research/diplomacy/espionage is what sets that series apart from other wargames.
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uPen posted:My problem with that is the non-war stuff is the whole point. There's games that do pushing counters around way, way better than HoI does so having fun with the production/research/diplomacy/espionage is what sets that series apart from other wargames. I actually disagree. I think HoI is at its best when it's a wargame through and through. When the political systems/espionage/diplomacy gets involved, the game is much much weaker. All I really want in terms of politics is, Axis, Allied, Comintern, Pro-Axis, Pro-Allied, Pro-Comintern, neutral. That's it. We don't need to make sure every ideology from 1936 is around.
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Aug 10, 2014 19:18
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DStecks posted:It was good enough for BF1942. I would love a weird prototypes expansion where the prototypes were exactly as terrible an idea as they would be in real life.
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Aug 10, 2014 19:20
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Hearts of Iron IV's first expansion, Stupid Weapons of World War II.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Hearts of Iron IV's first expansion, Stupid Weapons of World War II.  I just spent a year and 200 IC building a Landkreuzer P-1000, but the allies just keep bombing where it is and it moves so slowly that by the time it gets to the front lines it's already out of supplies, low on organization and almost dead.Gort posted:It'd be cool if there was a file you could easily edit that sets the USA to "Fascist Dictatorship" if that floats your boat. Or a DLC with alt-history events you could pick through or something. Crosstime Invasion DLC for HoI IV, can you fight off a horde of alternate dimension Aztecs while still keeping the Germans from landing on the Home Islands?
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Don Gato posted:
Curved Barrel Upgrade for StG 44-equipped units +1.00 Shock +3.00 Defense 500% Supply Usage
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Don Gato posted:
You gotto think bigger: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2302786/The-secret-Nazi-plan-blow-cities-giant-mile-wide-SUN-GUN.html In the game of crazy you play big or you die. podcat fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 20:22
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Agean90 posted:Id be down for a bunch of alt history scenarios. Be nice to have some different setups while waiting for Kaiserriech to get converted over You know, I'd pay money if Paradox did some DLCs that were straight up fleshed out and officially-supported alt-fiction scenarios for all of their games. From smaller changes like "England wins the 100 Year War," to "China took the lead in modernization" to Kaiserreich to crazier crap like a fantasy/historical take on Europe or the premise to the 1632 novels. Actual history is fun and all, but I've played it through so often I can curse France in my sleep and it'd be neat to see what happens if the Paradox devs let their minds run wild for a bit.
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Aug 10, 2014 20:46
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Mexican invasion of Wilhemshaven scenario (semi-historical)
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Decrepus posted:Mexican invasion of Wilhemshaven scenario (semi-historical) You don't need a scenario for that in HOI3, it happens fairly reliably anyway.
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StashAugustine posted:I would love a weird prototypes expansion where the prototypes were exactly as terrible an idea as they would be in real life. "Defeat Russia after building at least 10 Maus divisions."
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Aug 10, 2014 20:58
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Is there any idea what the "big expansion" for CK2 that's being announced at Gamescom is going to be? It's kind of sad how excited I am about that.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:41
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COOL CORN posted:Is there any idea what the "big expansion" for CK2 that's being announced at Gamescom is going to be? It's kind of sad how excited I am about that. It's gotta be China, surely.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:42
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Gort posted:It's gotta be China, surely. The timeline has been extended backward to 476.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:43
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Gort posted:It's gotta be China, surely. That would actually be really rad.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:44
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Decrepus posted:Mexican invasion of Wilhemshaven scenario (semi-historical) In real life, you had Brazilian divisions fighting in Italy and stuff.
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Gort posted:It's gotta be China, surely. China & Mongolia expac would be cool as all hell.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:51
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COOL CORN posted:Is there any idea what the "big expansion" for CK2 that's being announced at Gamescom is going to be? It's kind of sad how excited I am about that. Didn't paradox say they wanted more roleplaying or story telling in CK2? If I had to guess it would be something that improves on that.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:52
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I would love something that expands the depth of CK2 rather than expands the map. New map areas are fun but that's so many more characters and I'd love something more to do with some of the areas around already.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:56
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Gort posted:It's gotta be China, surely. Oh God, I don't know if my lovely laptop can handle yet more CK2 characters - India already makes her chug.
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COOL CORN posted:That would actually be really rad. Not really, unless it was stand alone. The map is already drat big, it doesn't need to be any larger.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:57
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Fully fleshed out Mesoamerica, only works if you have Sunset Invasion installed  Or China, I guess. That would be interesting but only if it was a separate map because holy poo poo there are a lot of cultures in between China and India and I think it would bring even my computer to it's knees.
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