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vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

7c Nickel posted:

Sheep should just lock the thread until he's ready to update. It's everything being delivered at the same time that really makes it.

There's still a huge chunk of the game left before we get to that point, there's no need to lock the thread. I'll try and get cracking on getting more posts up, though.

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Jenner
Jun 5, 2011
Lowtax banned me because he thought I was trolling by acting really stupid. I wasn't acting.
Everytime I try to watch the Twitch-archived video of the stream it locks up and won't progress and jumps around so now I'm kicking myself for missing it and also really looking forward to this update. It's taking everything in my power to not hover over those spoilers bars.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.
Tokimeki Memorial 3, Chapter 13: Fission Mailed

2/22: Hobby break

With nothing better to do on weekends - Goon has now dug up almost every possible item and there's no real need to learn any other hobbies - we took the liberty of spending about 2 months working on another portrait of Serika. This one works out a tiiiiny bit better.



That koala-haired statue appears to be worshipping it. That's... nice.

3/8-3/12: Finals


33rd: Fudou Gunzou
50th: Shiratori Masaki
87th: Makihara Yukiko
119th: Shinjo Serika(!!)
133rd: Oda Mari
136th: Tachibana Emi
somewhere really low: Yabe Takuo

3/14: White Day (kind of)


Goon: (Oh yeah, today's White Day, but since it's a Sunday I couldn't give anyone my gift.)
Goon: (I'll take care of it at school tomorrow. Who should I give my present to?)
Goon: Serika.
Goon: Alright, I'll give it to her tomorrow.

Valentine's Day? Yeah we can have each girl come over to your house on a Sunday. White Day? Nope, this game wants you to sit your rear end at home and hand over a present the next day, because screw this game.

3/15: White Day (observed)


Lazy writing at work: 3/15 is when test scores are posted. So literally 3 seconds before this conversation happens, Goon talked to Serika about their test scores.


Goon: (There's Serika over there.)
Goon: Serika!
Serika: Hmm? What's up, is there something wrong?
Goon: Here, this is thanks for Valentine's Day.


Serika: Y, you didn't have to give me anything.
Serika: But... thanks a lot.
Goon: (Good, it looks like she really liked it.)

3/16: The Melancholy of Tachibana Emi


(sobbing sounds)
Emi: Why?


Emi: Oh...
Goon: Uh. Hey.

Smooth, Goon. Very smooth.


Emi: I'm afraid you saw me at a moment of weakness.
Goon: Wh, what's wrong? Practicing by yourself?
Emi: ...
Goon: Where are all the freshman girls? You've come back to the club, but they're not here.
Emi: I, I don't think they will come back.
Goon: What?!


Emi: May I ask you a question?
Goon: Uh, sure.
Emi: What is the point of everything I've done?
Goon: What do you mean?
Emi: I wanted to work hard for all of those girls' sakes.
Goon: Right.
Emi: I wanted to bring us all together, so all of the girls in the club would work as a team.
Emi: I believed that we would all help each other reach the national high school tournament.
Goon: Yeah.
Emi: But was that all just my imagination running ahead of me?
Emi: Was my injury really all it took for everyone to give up and leave?
Goon: That's--


Emi: I don't know if I have the will to keep practicing aikido anymore.
Goon: No way...


Emi: I, I'm sorry. Please forget I said anything.
Emi: I'm, I'm going to go wash up.
Goon: (The girls leaving the club is a lot for Emi-san to bear...)
Goon: (Is there anything I can do for her?)

Here you see a bit of a big reason people didn't like Tokimeki Memorial 3: nothing good ever seems to happen to its characters. It's as if the writers went "hey, people liked Kaori's story in Tokimemo 2, we should make everything like that!"

I mean, Emi's story involves falling down the stairs, dealing with a crippling sports injury, and then being abandoned by people she thought were her friends. You'll see Yukiko's the old candy shop lady's story soon enough, which isn't exactly a happy story either.

Spoiler tags cover a couple other character stories that do not appear in this LP, in case anyone ever wanted to discover for themselves how awfully this game treats its cast:

Rika wants to make robots so that she can make friends who will never die, because she's afraid of losing those close to her after the death of her beloved childhood dog.

Hotaru's boyfriend was killed in a car accident, which also hospitalized her for a long time and required multiple surgeries. So she's distant for pretty much the same reasons Rika is, but with less creepy stalking and robot-making.

Kazumi's story is that her father is hospitalized with some kind of chronic illness, and she has to work to cover the costs because her mom is just... not there, I guess. It's not really explained.


So 5 or 6 out of Tokimemo 3's 8 stories are "this horrific thing happened to me and damaged me" - which is a pretty huge tone shift from the whimsical tone of the previous games. Hell, it's a huge tone shift from the general silliness of the rest of this game, where you're expected to dig up tree stumps and buy codpieces from infomercials.

End rant.


3/20: Serika and the cherry blossoms

I've been skipping it, but Serika has been late for pretty much every date for the past year and a half. It's been the same dialogue for almost the entire time, so I've skipped it. Just remember that it happens. For Reasons.


Serika: The cherry blossoms are in bloom, right? Let's take a look.


Serika: I didn't think I'd be able to see the cherry blossoms here again...
Option 1: We can come back next year to see them, and every year after that.
Option 2: You should think about today's cherry blossoms, not next year's.
Option 3: What do you mean, you didn't think you'd be able to see them again?


Uh. That's weird.


Goon: We can come back next year to see them, and every year after that.
Serika: Haha, that's true. That's... true.
Goon: (Serika?)

3/21: Aikido exhibition


A close one this time - we probably can't afford to neglect aikido practice for a while.


So of course that's exactly what we're going to do. Spring break in year 3 has started, and that means that we can no longer meet any new girls. Time to make up for years of neglecting lit and science!

4/1: April Fool's, take 2


Goon: Today is April Fool's Day.
Goon: Hmm? Is that Shinjo-san over there?
Goon: Alright, I should try and pull a prank on her.
Goon: Call out to her.
Goon: Hey, Serika!


Serika: Hmm? What're you doing here?
Goon: (Alright, this year I'm gonna fool her for sure!)
Goon: Y, yeah, over on that corner, I just saw--
Serika: If you're talking about the ghost under the willow tree, she just told me she was moving.
Serika: Did you go say hi to her? It's only polite.
Goon: What? Uh...
Goon: Yeah.


Serika: Good. She was crying, you know.
Serika: She said she was really sad she wouldn't ever see you again.
Serika: It must be hard to be such a playboy.
Serika: You should at least write her a letter every once in a while.
Goon: ...Okay.
Serika: Alright, see you later.


Goon: ...
Goon: (What the hell was I trying to do?)

4/2: Guidance counseling - AKA "Screw you, RNG"


Out of everything in this game, this part has been the most purely painful. There are up to three options to tell the teacher, and the classes are split so that people on the same path in life get in the same class. If we tell the teacher that we want to go to college, we're likely to be in Hotaru or Rika's class. If we tell the teacher that we want to go to work, we're more likely to end up in Chitose, Emi, or Kazumi's class.

What's that? You didn't see Serika, Yukiko, or Mari on that list? That's because the only thing you can do is pray - literally! If you pray for luck in love with a girl at hatsumoude, you are slightly more likely to be in her class.

This time took 2-2.5 hours. I didn't keep a reload log because I didn't feel like depressing myself, but I think it hit the 2-3 dozen mark for reloads.


4/7: Class assignments


Goon: (I'm in the same class as Serika.)
Goon: (I'm in the same class as Shiratori, too.)


Masaki: Hmph. It's you.
Masaki: I can't believe that you would be one of the classmates I would spend this year with.
Goon: What's your problem?
Masaki: Hmph. Don't be so hasty.


(Received information about what the girls think about Goon)
Goon: Th, thanks.
Masaki: Hmph. I am such a nice guy.
Masaki: Well, since we are stuck here together, let's both make sure we don't do anything we regret.
Masaki: Hahaha... farewell.
Goon: (He's as big-headed as ever.)


Goon: We're in the same class again, Serika.
Serika: Yeah. Haha, another year together.
Serika: I'm pretty happy about that.
Goon: Let's have fun.

4/8: Immediate results


Serika: Hey, this is kinda out of nowhere, but are you free this Sunday?
Serika: How do you feel about bowling?
Serika: It's pretty fun to get out there and be active.
Goon: Yeah, sounds good.

Serika is one of the two best bowlers in this game. The other, as far as I can tell, is Emi.

I also find it funny that this game's definition of being active is bowling.



Meanwhile, this is probably the best character animation in the entire game.

4/8: Bomb warning. Of course.


I can't even get mad anymore.

4/11: Bowling with Serika


Goon: This is the first time we've been here, isn't it?
Serika: Yeah. I've never been to a place like this before.


The mini-game for bowling is, as you might expect, pretty obnoxious. First, Goon moves back and forth until you hit Circle, which will determine his starting position.


Next, he'll start wildly spinning to determine the angle of the approach - this is the annoying part because it wobbles back and forth so quickly. It's pretty hard to get a reasonable angle.


Then, you determine the power of the throw, which uses good ol' golf swing mechanics, while using the D-pad to put some spin on the ball.



Blessedly, the game only makes you bowl 5 frames, and starts you with a slight lead in frame 6.


Serika is left-handed, and she picks up splits like no one's business.


This is pretty much the happiest we've ever seen her.


Serika: Did you see that? That was easy!
Serika: Hehe, just kidding.
Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!)

Oh. Hey look, Serika actually likes winning. Who knew?

4/17: Movies with Yukiko

The movie this time is Love-Love Shimensoka, AKA "Surrounded by lovey-dovey enemies" - I can't find a specific movie that this is parodying, but it's a pretty standard romantic comedy setup, so I don't know if there's any one movie that inspired this one.


Goon: (Love-Love Shimensoka is a slapstick romantic comedy about the chaos that ensues when 4 sisters fall in love with the same flirty guy.)
Goon: (What an awful guy, trying to hit on 4 sisters at once. Anyone who does that kind of thing deserves what he gets.)


Yukiko: Hehe, that was fun. I really like rom-coms.
Option 1: Watching that movie really showed me how scary girls are.
Option 2: Speaking as a guy, I'd kick that guy's rear end too for what he pulled!
Option 3: I don't really like rom-coms.


Gee, I wonder which of these replies does not directly insult the other half of this conversation?


Goon: Speaking as a guy, I'd kick that guy's rear end too for what he pulled!
Yukiko: Hehehe, I know you would be on our side!
Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!)

drat you, bomb-clearing dates.

4/18: Serika's birthday


What's the best thing to give Serika on her birthday?

A bouquet of roses? Nope, she wouldn't like it too much.

One of these portraits we drew of her? They're kinda creepy-looking, to be honest.

This needlessly enormous, rusty bell that we dug up? Hell no, that's Goon's and he's keeping it!

The best option is the same as last year - some home-grown/roasted/brewed coffee. Only the best for our girl. I think.



Serika: Hello, this is Shinjo.
Goon: Serika? This is Fudou.

Goon: (Act calm, Goon, act calm. Try not to stare at the creepy shrine to this girl you have inadvertently made in the corner of your room.)

Serika: Oh! Uhhh, what's up? Do you need something?
Goon: There's something I want to give you, can you come meet me somewhere?
Serika: Of, of course I can! We should meet up, hmm, how does that empty lot near the school sound?
Goon: Got it, I'll meet you at the empty lot. I'll be there soon!

It is not normal to choose an empty lot as your meeting place, Serika. Unless you are planning a gang fight or something...


Goon: Serika!
Serika: Y, yo. Wh, what did you want to give me?
Goon: Happy birthday. Here, I got you a present.
Serika: Wow, thank you. I'm speechless.
Serika: Oh, I know. Want to head to my place?
Goon: What? Your place? Are you sure?


Serika: Of course I am.
Serika: You came all this way to hand me a present, it'd be rude just to send you home.
Serika: It's not much of a place, but I can at least offer you some tea.
Goon: It'd be rude of me to refuse.
Serika: Awesome. It's over this way, follow me.


Goon: (This is Serika's place? It's so organized, it doesn't feel like anyone actually lives here.)
Serika: So, is it okay if I open it now?
Goon: It sure is. Go for it.


Serika: W, wow. Are you sure?
Serika: Thanks, this is... this is the best present ever.
Goon: (It looks like she really likes it.)

4/25: Bomb-clearing with Emi - water park edition


Emi: Sorry to keep you waiting.

Is... is she quite literally wearing underwear as a swimsuit?

Option 1: That swimsuit doesn't look good at all.
Option 2: That swimsuit looks good on you.
Option 3: That swimsuit is really sexy.



Goon: That swimsuit looks good on you.
Emi: Y, you think so? I thought it looked a bit too mature.
Emi: But I am grateful for the compliment. Thank you.
Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!)

EVEN THE SEAMS MAKE IT LOOK LIKE UNDERWEAR! DOESN'T ANYONE NOTICE THIS? I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!


Emi: Um... Just a moment ago, a man started talking to me over there.
Option 1: Are you okay?
Option 2: D, doesn't that mean he was trying to pick you up?
Option 3: Hmm. Yeah?



Goon: D, doesn't that mean he was trying to pick you up?
Emi: What? Is that what people call "picking up girls"?
Emi: This is the first time anyone has ever tried to pick me up.
Emi: What should we do?
Goon: (As if I know what to do...)

I'm... I'm so tired right now. I want to tick up the YKWSTG count but I just can't muster up the energy. See you next time...

Next time: Year 3 starts in earnest! And is that a f***ing dinosaur skull? You bet your rear end that's a f***ing dinosaur skull!

vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Aug 11, 2014

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Gently caress, I love that dinosaur skull :allears:

Striking Yak
Dec 31, 2012
I was half-expecting the game to say "ugh, you're not seriously wearing THOSE, are you?" when we had to put on bowling shoes. I'm almost disappointed it didn't happen.

Rogue 7
Oct 13, 2012
poo poo, I think that's even a T. Rex skull.

I think this game would be markedly improved if you could go on dates to Jurassic Park.

Chilblain
Oct 20, 2012

"You used some rude language towards me."
For that reason alone, I'll drop you into hell.
The best part is how long it took for people to notice the loving DINOSAUR SKULL sitting in Goon's room during streaming.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties

Chilblain posted:

The best part is how long it took for people to notice the loving DINOSAUR SKULL sitting in Goon's room during streaming.

... DINO DNA

Einander
Sep 14, 2008

"Yeh've forged a magnificent sword."

"This one's only practice. The real sword I intend to forge will be three times longer."

"Can there really be a sword as monstrous as that in this world?"

"Yes. I can see that sword... Somewhere out there..."
We first found the dinosaur skull during the reloading period for class assignments. Repeatedly finding and losing the dinosaur skull only added to the sense of repetition and tragedy.

InfiniteJesters
Jan 26, 2012

Einander posted:

We first found the dinosaur skull during the reloading period for class assignments. Repeatedly finding and losing the dinosaur skull only added to the sense of repetition and tragedy.

"See this skull? THIS IS YOU, BY THE END OF THIS GAME."

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




Einander posted:

We first found the dinosaur skull during the reloading period for class assignments. Repeatedly finding and losing the dinosaur skull only added to the sense of repetition and tragedy.

Has any dating game ever had a character from the future that appears after you reload a certain number of times and tells you to stop loving with the timeline? Because this is probably the perfect game to put them in.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

Triggerhappypilot posted:

Has any dating game ever had a character from the future that appears after you reload a certain number of times and tells you to stop loving with the timeline? Because this is probably the perfect game to put them in.

And if you persist in reloading the character should become dateable. :v:

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




Tarezax posted:

And if you persist in reloading the character should become dateable. :v:

You have to find objects from the past and figure out how old they are so that they can put them back where they belong. A literal dating game.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Triggerhappypilot posted:

Has any dating game ever had a character from the future that appears after you reload a certain number of times and tells you to stop loving with the timeline? Because this is probably the perfect game to put them in.

Not quite the same but isn't Christine Love's new dating sim game supposed to have the characters call you out on savescumming? At the very least I know that they'll call you a creepy weirdo if you know absolutely everything that will make them happy, Groundhog Day-style.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties

Lady Naga posted:

Not quite the same but isn't Christine Love's new dating sim game supposed to have the characters call you out on savescumming? At the very least I know that they'll call you a creepy weirdo if you know absolutely everything that will make them happy, Groundhog Day-style.

I heard Konami's Love Plus does that.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Someone knowing a lot about you when you haven't told them much would be a bit unnerving. That just screams stalker and should set off warning sirens.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

quote:

I've been skipping it, but Serika has been late for pretty much every date for the past year and a half. It's been the same dialogue for almost the entire time, so I've skipped it. Just remember that it happens. For Reasons.

Sheesh Serika, Yu could balance dungeons and dates better than that. :colbert:

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

BlitzBlast posted:

Sheesh Serika, Yu could balance dungeons and dates better than that. :colbert:

I wonder which Tarot card Gunzou is?

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

I wonder which Tarot card Gunzou is?

The not-funny answer is probably Magician. My gut, however, says Hanged Man.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

Spiritus Nox posted:

The not-funny answer is probably Magician. My gut, however, says Hanged Man.

Goon died inside so that you could gain knowledge of this awful, awful game.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Goon is Strength, because he's Serika's cool buddy.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Spiritus Nox posted:

The not-funny answer is probably Magician. My gut, however, says Hanged Man.

Look man, just accept the fact that we're Yosuke.

I mean look at the poo poo we say.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Triggerhappypilot posted:

Has any dating game ever had a character from the future that appears after you reload a certain number of times and tells you to stop loving with the timeline? Because this is probably the perfect game to put them in.
There's a game called 'Save the Date!' that's sort of like that. From what I've read, it looks like a basic choose-your-own-adventure-style 'make sure the date is a success' game, but with a twist: the game keeps track of the paths and endings you've seen, and new ones unlock as you're able to apply knowledge from one path to another path. Apparently the golden ending is very meta.

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.
Depending on what you mean by "golden ending" the answer is either "yes" or "hell of yes." The "best" or at least most conclusive ending you can get normally is one where you accept that the title's missive is impossible and have a philosophical conversation about inevitability and narrative and the gamer compulsion to Ty everything because there has to be some way to win. There is, however, exactly one way to actually save your date, which is by modifying a file in the game folder to unlock an ending where you cheat yourself a perfect ending where your date lives and you become super-rich. Of course, that outcome is so shallow and unadulterated in its "YOU WIN EVERYTHING LIFE IS GREAT FOREVER" wish fulfillment that it leaves you feeling exactly as cheap and unsatisfied as cheating yourself all of the happiness should.

Nick Buntline
Dec 20, 2007
Doesn't know the impossible.

Personally I'd say the best ending is the one where you just turn the game off and make up your own happy ending. After all, as the game helpfully points out, the author is just some rear end in a top hat who made an impossible puzzle that inevitably ends in the fictional character's deaths, so who cares how they think the story should end?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Triggerhappypilot posted:

Has any dating game ever had a character from the future that appears after you reload a certain number of times and tells you to stop loving with the timeline? Because this is probably the perfect game to put them in.

There's a VN that I forget the name of, Japan only of course, where one of the heroines takes control of the game (by 'patching it', causing it to close and then changing when you re-run it) and audibly mocks you if you try and load a previous save. It was detailed in the VN thread in ADTRW before it got shitcanned for being weird.

InfiniteJesters
Jan 26, 2012

kirbysuperstar posted:

It was detailed in the VN thread in ADTRW before it got shitcanned for being weird.

I am saddened yet relieved I miss months of posts at a time around here, sometimes. :(

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

vibratingsheep posted:

Goon died inside so that you could gain knowledge of this awful, awful game.

...Yeah, now that I went back and checked what hanged man actually means, Hanged Man doesn't actually make any sense. We're totally Yosuke.

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

Sheep, as the player, is Hanged Man, his choices controlled by goons. The player character, as a player character construct rather than a discrete person, is Hanged Man, as literally all of his actions are outside of his control (being instead under Sheep's). The player taken as a person judged upon his dialogue and actions within the game, is totally Yosuke.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Are... are we dating a ghost? Is she slowly remembering how she died?

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

kirbysuperstar posted:

There's a VN that I forget the name of, Japan only of course, where one of the heroines takes control of the game (by 'patching it', causing it to close and then changing when you re-run it) and audibly mocks you if you try and load a previous save. It was detailed in the VN thread in ADTRW before it got shitcanned for being weird.
Is this the one you're talking about? Because I thought the idea was cool as hell, when I first saw it. Oh, Nitro+.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

AmiYumi posted:

Is this the one you're talking about? Because I thought the idea was cool as hell, when I first saw it. Oh, Nitro+.

Yeah, that was the one!

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.
Tokimemo 3, Chapter 14: The Pain

5/3: T-Rex skull, you're my best friend.


As mentioned earlier, one of the "best" things you can get from the excavation hobby is an honest-to-God dinosaur skull. It's... well, it's probably a better friend than any of the guys in this game. It's about as useful as they are, and better to look at.

5/12: Yukiko butts in


Yukiko: Oh! Just the person I was looking for.
Yukiko: Want some candy?
Yukiko: I wanted to share some with everyone, and I bought too much at the candy store.
Goon: You went to that candy shop again?


Yukiko: Hahaha... it's because the old lady there is so nice.
Yukiko: Talking to her is really fun, and she gives me a lot of advice.
Option 1: She sounds like a nice old lady.
Option 2: Advice about what?



Goon: Advice about what?
Yukiko: It's, uh, nothing special.
Yukiko: Like school, and the baseball team, and - oh, I think I've talked to her about my friends before.
Goon: Huh.
Yukiko: I--I'll introduce you to her next time.
Yukiko: Class is about to start. I'll talk to you later.
Goon: (Makihara-san really seems to like that lady from the candy shop.)

And now you see a little bit of what I'm talking about when I say that Yukiko's story is also known as the Old Lady story.

5/15: Sports festival, year 3


Goon: Alright, time to go out there and work hard!
Serika: I don't usually go to these kinds of things, but since you're here, I came to cheer you on.
Serika: Good luck.
Goon: Thanks!

Another year, another three-legged race to win. There are asses to be kicked, Serika.


Serika: Haha, looks like we're teaming up for this.
Serika: Honestly, I wasn't very excited at first, but now I'm a little fired up.
Serika: Let's win this thing.
Goon: Yeah, let's kick some rear end!



Mini-Serika is still really badly animated. But at least we won.


Serika: We did it, (awkward $playername pause), we took first!
Serika: I knew you had it in you.
Serika: You were amazing out there.
Goon: Thanks.
Goon: And that is how the last sports festival of high school came to an end.

Yes. Goon says that out loud. It's kind of silly, when you think about it.

5/27: Yukiko butts in again


Yukiko: Oh, (awkward $playername pause), are you heading home?
Goon: Yeah. You heading home too, Makihara-san?
Yukiko: Uh-huh. I'm going to hang out at the candy shop.
Yukiko: I love the old lady there, she's so nice to me.

Are. You. SERIOUS. We get another Yukiko event. Two weeks after impressing Serika, who has had no event yet.


Yukiko: Hey, want to go there on the way home?
Goon: Who, me?
Yukiko: Yeah. I think you two would really get along.
Option 1: Sure, let's go.
Option 2: Sorry, not today...


Whatever. Let's see where this goes.


Goon: Sure, let's go.
Yukiko: Yay, let's get going.


Yukiko: Hehe, this is the candy shop I like.
Yukiko: Let's head inside.
Goon: Okay.


Yukiko: Obaa-chan, good afternoon! I brought a friend with me!
Goon: (So this is what it's like inside.)
Option 1: It's... austere. Very, very... austere.
Option 2: It's pretty clearly in decline, isn't it.
Option 3: What a dump.


Well. That's quite the selection of insults. The politest one is option 1.


Goon: It's... elegant. Very, very... elegant.
Old lady: Deep down you're just calling it old, aren't you?!
Goon: What? She heard me?
Old lady: You're way too young to talk about elegance, boy.
Old lady: Sheesh.
Old lady: From all that Yukiko-chan says about you, I figured there would be something good about you, but...
Old lady: You're nothing but a guy who doesn't know how to use his mouth.
Goon: (Th, that's not true!)

Of all the things to think and not say...

Also of note, this is our first instance of a 3D foreground character interacting with 2D background character. Truly, this is the mark of a game that had all the time that it needed.



Yukiko: G, good afternoon, obaa-chan! How are you feeling today?
Old lady: Oh, good afternoon. You're always so kind to me, Yukiko-chan.
Old lady: Thanks to your visits, I've been feeling great lately.
Yukiko: Hahahaha!
Old lady: Well, kid, for Yukiko-chan's sake I'll let your comments slide.
Old lady: Here, come on in and have some tea.


Yukiko: Today was pretty fun.
Goon: Is she always like that?
Yukiko: No. She's always nice to me. She was definitely trying to hide her true feelings.
Yukiko: She said all that, but she really seemed like she was having fun.
Yukiko: I'm pretty sure she likes you.

6/8: Yukiko. Again.


Yukiko: Hey, wait up!
Goon: Hey, Makihara-san. What's going on?
Yukiko: I was about to head to the candy shop. Do you want to come with me?
Yukiko: You haven't been by lately, and the old lady is feeling lonely.
Goon: Lonely? Really?


Yukiko: Yeah. She won't say it out loud, but I sense it.
Yukiko: So, what do you think?
Option 1: Yeah, I'll go with you.
Option 2: Sorry, I can't today.


You know what? Screw this game. Stop shoving the old lady down my throat!

I probably could have phrased that better.


Goon: Sorry, I can't today.
Yukiko: Oh, really? That's sad.
Yukiko: Alright, we'll do it another time.

6/16: Old lady throat-shoving.


Goon: Hey, Makihara-san? What happened?
Yukiko: Yeah...
Yukiko: ...
Goon: Makihara-san?
Yukiko: So... the old lady, she...
Yukiko: She collapsed.
Goon: No way! The old lady from the candy shop?


Yukiko: Yeah. She's been pretty sick for a while.
Yukiko: She seemed to be doing better lately, though.
Goon: (She seemed so healthy when I saw her.)

Yukiko isn't even close to being first in affection - she's third behind Serika and Emi. I have no idea why the game keeps shoving this crap down my throat. I'm not even doing any Yukiko-affiliated activities! (AKA baseball)

6/22: What now, Shiratori?


Masaki: It seems like you haven't noticed. Then I must enlighten you.
Goon: Huh? What are you talking about?
Masaki: Emi-san's beauty has been especially brilliant lately.


Is it just me, or does it look like Shiratori wet his pants? I can't be the only one who thinks this.


Masaki: Hmph. That is what makes her worthy of me.
Goon: Uh. Okay...

6/29: An actual Serika event!


Goon: Serika!
Serika: Hey, did you wanna ask me something?
Goon: Want to walk home together?


This comes with a sharp sound effect that's hard to describe.
Serika: !!
Goon: Serika?


Serika: ...Sorry.
Goon: What?
Serika: I forgot, I have work to do today.
Goon: Work?


Serika: Uh, no. It's just a little thing I need to take care of.
Serika: I'll have to pass today. I feel bad about it, though.
Option 1: Well, that sucks.
Option 2: If you're busy, don't worry about it.


There is no difference between these two choices, of course. More signs of a well-designed game!


Goon: Well, that sucks.
Serika: Sorry. We'll walk home together next time.
Goon: Okay.
Serika: I'll see you later.
Goon: drat, I guess I'll walk home alone.
Goon: But what did she mean by a little thing she had to take care of?

Cue the Midnight Channel jokes. It's even a rainy day!

6/30: This event is completely unrelated I swear


Goon: Hmm? Everyone in class is buzzing. I wonder what happened?
Takuo: Hey, did you hear what happened? The whole school is talking about it!
Goon: What do you mean? What happened?
Takuo: What, you don't know? I guess I'll have to tell you!
Takuo: Someone broke into the storage area for gym equipment!
Goon: Seriously?
Takuo: Yeah, the whole place is a huge mess! They say it's like a hurricane came through.
Takuo: But it's really weird.
Takuo: They broke in and made a mess, but they apparently didn't steal anything.
Goon: Huh. But why the gym storage?
Takuo: How should I know? Anyway, that's what happened.


Takuo: Now, who should I tell next?
Takuo: Maybe I'll tell Yukko-chan. Ah, what a busy day.


Goon: Huh. So that's what happened.
Serika: Hey.
Goon: Oh, hey Serika.
Serika: Sorry about yesterday. There was business I had to take care of, no matter what.
Goon: Don't worry about it.


Serika: By the way, everyone's really riled up for some reason. What happened?
Goon: Hmm? You didn't hear, Serika?
Goon: They say someone broke into the gym storage.


Serika: H, huh. I didn't know that.
Serika: Well, not like I care.
Goon: They say that nothing was taken, so it doesn't look like it was a burglary.
Goon: It's pretty weird, huh?
Serika: You think so? I think someone was just playing a stupid prank.
Serika: Well, I have to go. I'm pretty busy... with stuff.
Goon: Uh, okay. Later.

Next time: Summer vacation! Swimsuits! Aikido! And the Reverse Cloak!

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Wanton Spoon
Aug 19, 2007

Senior Burgeoner


Opposing Farce posted:

Depending on what you mean by "golden ending" the answer is either "yes" or "hell of yes." The "best" or at least most conclusive ending you can get normally is one where you accept that the title's missive is impossible and have a philosophical conversation about inevitability and narrative and the gamer compulsion to Ty everything because there has to be some way to win. There is, however, exactly one way to actually save your date, which is by modifying a file in the game folder to unlock an ending where you cheat yourself a perfect ending where your date lives and you become super-rich. Of course, that outcome is so shallow and unadulterated in its "YOU WIN EVERYTHING LIFE IS GREAT FOREVER" wish fulfillment that it leaves you feeling exactly as cheap and unsatisfied as cheating yourself all of the happiness should.

There's one other path where you don't have to cheat, and your date survives and lives happily ever after... with someone else. The first time you get that ending, it hints that there might be another way to keep your date from dying, but if you've already been on the path with the philosophical conversation, the main character concludes "Nah, probably not."

Personally, I wonder if that ending was put in there as a commentary on how some relationships just aren't meant to work out. And if you're not satisfied with that as an ending, it raises the question of what it means that the idea of your date going out with someone else is as unacceptable to you, or possibly less acceptable, than your date getting killed by ninjas.

Daerc
Sep 23, 2007

Look! A door! This must mean something!

vibratingsheep posted:



Also of note, this is our first instance of a 3D foreground character interacting with 2D background character. Truly, this is the mark of a game that had all the time that it needed.

Okay, it looks bad, but this one doesn't look too terrible in comparison to some of the later ones.

e: That's honestly about as positive as I can get about most things in this game. "Oh yeah, it's bad now, but you know what? It gets worse."

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

So I guess Serika needed to restock on golf clubs and baseball bats?

Catalina
May 20, 2008



Maybe Serika was trying to get into Tartarus.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Taking a friend to meet an angry old lady has got to be the weirdest date idea I've ever heard.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Serika's just busy working on other Social Links. She's gotta get the True End, you know.

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Piano Maniac
Oct 10, 2011
Gosh darn it what a train-wreck!

How come they screwed it up so bad with TM3? I get it, the game got cut funding and rushed, but if they had just followed TM2īs lead and not rock the boat so much with amazing "features" like dressing up to fail, rear end in a top hat friends and crazy old ladies, it couldīve been a game actually fun to play with.

But no, here we are seeing Emiīs club disbanding and that old lady (probably) die. But in the end, for whom the bell tolls? It tolls for thee...

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