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ADINSX posted:Its fun to make fun of hipster videos that try to make restoring/modding older bikes into something serious or emphasize the ~~tangible connection to the past~~ or ~~authenticity~~ of old bikes, but CA's raging hatred for anything old or old modified bikes is getting a little tedious. AI gets enraged about form over function too. But seriously, look at this: What do you think is going to happen when that bike goes over the slightest bump or tries to turn? The wheel will end up inside the steering stem. How is that good? Lots of people on here own and ride old bikes so I'm not sure why you think CA hates old bikes. I don't like old bikes because they all feel heavy, loose, lovely, slow and constantly break down. But some people do, and that's fine. Some of the coolest modified old bikes I've seen are owned by posters here, like sage's CL for example.
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ADINSX posted:Its fun to make fun of hipster videos that try to make restoring/modding older bikes into something serious or emphasize the ~~tangible connection to the past~~ or ~~authenticity~~ of old bikes, but CA's raging hatred for anything old or old modified bikes is getting a little tedious. Allow me to counter your argument with pictures.  HMMMMM, this bike has potential, lets make it better.  PERFECT
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Aug 11, 2014 20:04
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ElMaligno posted:Allow me to counter your argument with pictures. I'm still convinced, to this day, that the guy who made that thing was just loving with BMW and decided to have a blast making as lovely as a loving bike as he possibly could, then watched as BMW's marketing team had to swallow hard and put it on their website.
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Aug 11, 2014 20:33
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Do hipsters like old cars, though? I'm pretty sure cars are against their "urban aesthetic".
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Aug 11, 2014 20:39
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Radbot posted:Do hipsters like old cars, though? I'm pretty sure cars are against their "urban aesthetic". Eh I think it depends on the region of hipster. If you're stuck in a town where its really really hard to get around without a car they like 240s, bmw 2002s, stuff like that. Hmm what do fairings do? They're like, barricades against marauders when you're riding in the mad max universe right? That sounds right, I'll make them like that.
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Aug 11, 2014 20:44
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ElMaligno posted:
Between that and an SV650, that.
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Aug 11, 2014 20:50
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titanium posted:But I also have this for fast/fun runs (those were new tires and the bike was new the strips are gone) What helmet is that? I like the F-35 look it has.
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Aug 11, 2014 20:51
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Is it lost on all of you that the one who kicked this hornet's nest rides a retro factory cafe with a screw down cowl and an rear end end higher than an RM 250? I kid because I love. The bike, that is. Also: I can't speak for all of CA, but the sight of a bobber/cafe/brat irreversibly victimized by someone with no design or fabrication skills makes many of us shed tiny eagle tears. It's like a 14 year old kid "relicing" a perfectly good guitar, rather than learning how to actually play the thing.
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ADINSX posted:Its fun to make fun of hipster videos that try to make restoring/modding older bikes into something serious or emphasize the ~~tangible connection to the past~~ or ~~authenticity~~ of old bikes, but CA's raging hatred for anything old or old modified bikes is getting a little tedious. Can't speak for the rest of CA but I have no problem with old bikes, I've owned 76CB750ss and a CB400 in the past, they were cool little bikes and look ok, I really like old euro bikes. Please stop attributing opinions to me which you've made up in your head. Thanks. I have nor problem with modified bikes either.
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Aug 11, 2014 21:11
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 Melvin Jules Bukiet posted:Your father is dead, or your mother, and so are most of the Jews of Europe, and the World Trade Center’s gone, and racism prevails, and sex murders occur. What is, is. The real is the true, and anything that suggests otherwise, no matter how artfully constructed, is a violation of human experience.
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Aug 11, 2014 21:20
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If any of you actually read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence, you'd know that Quality is beyond Objectivity, and therefore "The hipster's bike is bad" is an infallible statement.
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Aug 11, 2014 21:29
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Oglogoth posted:What helmet is that? I like the F-35 look it has. It's a Roof Boxer and I like it quite a bit, you look like Marvin the Martian when you flip the face all the way up.
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Oglogoth posted:What helmet is that? I like the F-35 look it has. Like the type of helmet someone would stick a gaudy pink or green mohawk on top and wear a baggy "if you can read this the bitch fell off" hoodie.
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Aug 12, 2014 00:27
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Hey a video of a new idea for a three wheel motorcycle. Guess where they want to put the third wheel? Not up there. Not back there. Not even to the side. I don't even... http://youtu.be/cVfwMNtCpvE
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Aug 12, 2014 03:52
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First with the cycle centipede reference
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Aug 12, 2014 03:53
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But why.
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"French designer..." should be enough explanation for why, if French cars are anything to go by.
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Deeters posted:If any of you actually read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence, you'd know that Quality is beyond Objectivity, and therefore "The hipster's bike is bad" is an infallible statement. I want to be a 12 o'clock boy irl
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Aug 12, 2014 04:49
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What happened to the one with the Honda motor?
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Aug 12, 2014 13:32
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open24hours posted:What happened to the one with the Honda motor? Its still there, it got pushed to the back burner in lieu of my F11 getting an RM250 front end and the DRZ just existing. I think I need a new cam for the Honda motor as it runs and idles fine but will not rev at all.
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Aug 12, 2014 14:14
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Is this cool? Because I think it's really loving cool 
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dev null posted:Is this cool? Because I think it's really loving cool It's almost cool, he needs to get rid of those crazy tall bars and that front fender. Then it'd be badass.
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dev null posted:Is this cool? Because I think it's really loving cool Its loving awesome, its the one bike I'll never get rid of. n8r posted:It's almost cool, he needs to get rid of those crazy tall bars and that front fender. Then it'd be badass. Those are both factory items, at least
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Aug 12, 2014 15:35
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 I bought a Grom.
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Legdiian posted:
please tell me thats a picture of you riding it.
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Aug 12, 2014 16:03
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Legdiian posted:
What do you think of it? Do you use it as an "advanced" scooter for commuting through the city to work? I always thought of the Grom as the answer to a question nobody was asking, but the more I read about the thing, the more it appears I am wrong.
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Ripoff posted:What do you think of it? Do you use it as an "advanced" scooter for commuting through the city to work? Just turned 40 miles last night. I have an R6 and 749 but this thing is a loving blast. 8hp at the rear wheel. I'm 6' 215lbs and I can hit around 60 on level ground. Topped out at 68 down a slight grade. I have yet to pull into a parking lot where someone didn't approach me with questions about it. I bought it because I'm terrible with money and spend it on stupid things. The worst part about it is I find myself cutting across parking lots at 50mph, jumping over curbs and I have to stop and think "wait, this thing has a license plate on it".
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Ripoff posted:What do you think of it? Do you use it as an "advanced" scooter for commuting through the city to work? Since I own the below bike Which is basically a vintage Grom, I can speak a bit to this. Little bikes like that make a ton more sense when you look at them as scooters on steroids, rather than tiny motorcycles. If you're cross-shopping them with full-size bikes that can go 3x as fast, make 10x the horsepower, have 4x the range, they dont make a ton of sense. When you look at them through a scooter lens, they are head and shoulders above their competition. The RV makes about 10HP or so, will go 50mph, carry two people, luggage, etc, is honestly very capable off-road, handles great on-road, swappable gearing, manual trans, and thats on a bike from 1972. Compare that to something modern like a Metropolitan, or even a ruckus, and its not even a competition. I think thats the problem a lot of people have with the Grom. They see it as a motorcycle (because it is), and it falls way short of even bikes like the Ninja 250/TU250X and the like. Start looking at it through the lens of a scooter and it not only makes a ton more sense, but becomes one of, if not THE best option, outside of mega-scooters like the T-Max or Burgman Legdiian posted:The worst part about it is I find myself cutting across parking lots at 50mph, jumping over curbs and I have to stop and think "wait, this thing has a license plate on it". This too, they're like mini-supermotos, or big BMX bikes, depending on how you look at it. Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Start looking at it through the lens of a scooter and it not only makes a ton more sense, but becomes one of, if not THE best option, outside of mega-scooters like the T-Max or Burgman. Yeah, no offense, but I don't think you know your scooters that well. The Grom being better than two 50cc scooters. Sure. But not current 150 - 300 cc scooters they make now. I mean poo poo the engine in the Grom comes from scooters. But take something like the Forza or Bv350 which are putting out 30hp or so, can carry two people and have real luggage capacity the Grom doesn't win it's case as conclusively as you make it out.
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I still think those fall under the mega scooter category, but either way, the point still stands that when you compare it to machines like that, it still holds advantages in suspension, gearing, transmission, off-roadability, etc. The big scooters can make more power, sure, but they still dont win in every category. Regardless, when the average joe thinks of a scooter, they dont think of some never-seen-outside-of-the-internet piaggio, they think of the scoots you see every single day on the street, most of them 50cc, most of them Mets, Rucks, a few Yamahas, and some shameful Chinese junk. Of course there are scooters that outperform the Grom, and even outperform some smaller motorcycles, but for the average person those never were and never will be a viable option when you can get a popular 50cc scooter or a Grom from your local Honda dealer. The BV350 is for people who really know scooters and really know what they want, not for the average scooter shopper off the street. The SH150i is a more apt comparison as a scoot that you would actually see in the real world that can probably outperform the Grom, but even those arent all that common.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I still think those fall under the mega scooter category, but either way, the point still stands that when you compare it to machines like that, it still holds advantages in suspension, gearing, transmission, off-roadability, etc. A fairly pointless derail, but small-capacity scooters make up the vast majority of worldwide bike sales, it's really only America where that's not the case. The RSV4 is a great bike but it's not really contributing much to Piaggio being the 4th-largest bike manufacturer in the world.
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Cycle Asylum: not for the average scooter shopper off the street *flicks a cigarette at u*
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Oh, yeah, that argument might fall apart outside of the US, but WHO CARES 
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Can we argue less about if the grom is the best, and just admit it's the best? I want to live vicariously through Legdiian and he needs to post more pictures/trip reports of tiny hooning. It really is too bad it's so expensive and unable to do highway riding.
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Supermoto: still cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Vx1gIz2No
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What sort of tyres do they run? A dirt/tarmac compromise?
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Coydog posted:Can we argue less about if the grom is the best, and just admit it's the best? I want to live vicariously through Legdiian and he needs to post more pictures/trip reports of tiny hooning. It really is too bad it's so expensive and unable to do highway riding. I see some little Tacoma Grom biker gang taking I-5 for an exit or two during rush hour every once in a while, apparently they can go fast enough. And some nerd made a trip up to Alaska on one. http://imgur.com/a/itDzJ Slim Pickens fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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 I would not have said loading one down with gear was possible. That thing must handle awful. It sells the grom even more, but I'd want to take it an hour or so up to the mountains, and I cannot imagine that going well on the highway. During traffic it would be very ok, I think, if people saw you.
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Slavvy posted:What sort of tyres do they run? A dirt/tarmac compromise? I rode a Dirt/Tarmac (60 miles round trip, about 70/20 dirt/pavement) loop with a bunch of dudes here in CO over the weekend. I run Avon Distanzias, but some of the guys were running Pilot Powers, and one was running Bridgestone Battleaxe tires. Akion fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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