Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Acquilae
May 15, 2013

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

are you complaining about adam baldwin's justification for being on the show??
I think he's secretly scheming on sending the captain off to die so he can be the replacement and become the captain of Patriot Warship One.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Viewers Like Me
Nov 4, 2004


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me

Acquilae posted:

I love how the captain has to attend every single mission they go on.

That is the one thing that bugs to death, why why! does the captain have to go on all the missions?? He is as dumb as Kirk.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011

Viewers Like Me posted:

He is as dumb as Kirk.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Someone needs to make a tv show "Tom Clancy Fever Dream". Kinda like this but just one more foot over the edge.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Viewers Like Me posted:

That is the one thing that bugs to death, why why! does the captain have to go on all the missions?? He is as dumb as Kirk.

Hey, at least Tex called him out on his heroic bullshit.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


The Last Ship is actually a future documentary for the current Ebola outbreak.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
kirk it up a notch

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
So that Norwegian scientist did something to the virus that made it more deadly and his girlfriend spread it unknowingly throughout Europe, that's what I was getting from that scene at the start.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
Apparently the good doctor has never heard of Typhoid Mary.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

oh poo poo the helicopter is back for a surprise appearance

Khablam posted:

The helicopter only spawns when a main character needs it for some reason. It has seriously just appeared and disappeared since the pilot.

Jack Skeleton posted:

Apparently the good doctor has never heard of Typhoid Mary.
This annoyed the absolute poo poo out of me, people are MUCH more likely to be an asymptomatic carrier than naturally immune. There was absolutely nothing to suggest she was clean - would it have been so hard to have a 3 second scene where they test her blood for an active infection?

The screenwriters are so loving bad on this show, it's amazing.

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

Do you like superheroes? Check out my CYOA Mutants: Uprising

How about weird historical fiction? Try Vampires of the Caribbean

Yeah, they show us the Norwegian doctor who is obviously not sick but a carrier of the mutated strain (that he created), and then show us the Jamaican girl who is not sick...and as soon as they get to the ship they take no precautions whatsoever. I mean, it worked out because she was immune, but it was a pretty bad oversight by the writers.

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

Baloogan posted:

Someone needs to make a tv show "Tom Clancy Fever Dream". Kinda like this but just one more foot over the edge.

My secret dream is that they make a HBO quality level TV show out of the whole Ryanverse (- everything after Red Rabbit). I would kill for some cold war poo poo.


And please get Kiefer Sutherland to play John Clark.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I'm all for dramatic tension but I don't understand why "sink the goddamn Russians" hasn't been the priority from the jump. At the very least attempt to negotiate via the radio that still works. If the whole world isn't big enough for Captain Not-Khan to go and find his own slice then perhaps the DESTROYER should do something about that.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

It's billed as though, even if the NJ won the encounter, damage to the ship may impede her mission, and that takes precedent.

This makes sense given it's a cruiser to their destroyer, even if it is "an older design" or whatever they call it.

weaaddar
Jul 17, 2004
HAY GUYS WHAT IS TEH INTERWEBNET, AND ISN'T A0L the SECKZ!? :LOL: 1337
PS I'M A FUCKING LOSER
This past episode was much better than the previous episode, which at best was a voyager episode (e.g. all the events tie up neatly in a bow and its basically a reset as if it never happened). I mean hell voyager did that exact same stupid premise. Oh some crew members might leave, the captain gives a heartfelt speech, and then poof no one wants to leave the ship.

Iowa Snow King
Jan 5, 2008
Stuff is actually happening!

spronk
Feb 5, 2011

Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
whoah, that was pretty crazy - was not expecting actual resolutions and consequences. Isn't everyone on the Russian ship infected now though with the Swedish Scientist escaping? It looked like the ship blew up, but I guess some of them will get onto lifeboats or something? Or maybe Kapitan Khan has a secret submarine as backup...

Blackchamber
Jan 25, 2005

Off to a good start this episode, an H60 reporting his gear down and locked (they dont have retractable wheels).

Reminds me of a guy who asked a bell helo to check his wheels down and the pilot replies that he doesn't have wheels he has skids. Our guy radios back 'check skids down then'.

Iowa Snow King
Jan 5, 2008

spronk posted:

whoah, that was pretty crazy - was not expecting actual resolutions and consequences. Isn't everyone on the Russian ship infected now though with the Swedish Scientist escaping? It looked like the ship blew up, but I guess some of them will get onto lifeboats or something? Or maybe Kapitan Khan has a secret submarine as backup...

My guess is the Russian ship isn't completely done for, although it did look like it mostly got blowed up. But it's supposed to be big.

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

I'm trying to think why they didn't just shoot up the Russian ship after they left, and all I'm coming up with is "gotta have a bad guy".

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Xenoborg posted:

I'm trying to think why they didn't just shoot up the Russian ship after they left, and all I'm coming up with is "gotta have a bad guy".

They need a fully equipped Russian naval ship to offer as a enemy? Off the top of my head I could think of dozens of water based serious threats the James could face, without making it a "evil Russian bad guy drinking from fine china and eating fancy food"

They could run into pirates who've looted a govt military ship, or rogue military force, or any number of better reasons. Instead it has to be the legendary Russian Admiral who's running around with patient zero in his hold.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
The Kraken.

Poseidon, God of the Sea.

Somali pirates.

Andrew Ryan.

Cthulhu.

Mirror Universe USS Nathan James.

The Red October.

The ghost of Blackbeard.

Bald Dennis Hopper with an eyepatch.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Gonz posted:

The Kraken.

Poseidon, God of the Sea.

Somali pirates.

Andrew Ryan.

Cthulhu.

Mirror Universe USS Nathan James.

The Red October.

The ghost of Blackbeard.

Bald Dennis Hopper with an eyepatch.

The time-shifted DSV.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Gonz posted:


Mirror Universe USS Nathan James.


Nah the Captain is exactly the same, but the evil Russian captain is his twin brother. :ussr:

Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Aug 11, 2014

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Navy ROE are pretty clear on this. You're allowed a limited response to hubris, but only to the point that the enemy is humiliated and desperate. You can only sink an enemy ship during season finales.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Blackchamber posted:

Off to a good start this episode, an H60 reporting his gear down and locked (they dont have retractable wheels).
It amused me that they went to the length of calling it a Kirov class (a battlecruiser, with spec sheets up and everything) and then called it a 'battleship' - a classification that left use after WWII when guided-missiles superseded large rear end guns.
This isn't even spergy, they make a point of their destroyer being deadly for it's size based on high tech weapons in the pilot, which is pretty much the same point.

The kind-of-blew-up-the-russians-but-not-all-the-way part is hammy, too - why wouldn't you cripple the cooling system to the reactor?

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
they made mention that a meltdown wasn't ideal

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Rocksicles posted:

they made mention that a meltdown wasn't ideal
Sure - it's not ideal if you're on the boat at the time, but then we see multiple charges being set off once they're clear, in critical areas like the front top deck and random hallway B. Why not anywhere vital?
Or do they expect all the tension in the show to come from the same ship the whole time?

Perhaps if they are stuck re-making Star Trek episode concepts, maybe the Russian captain is more Tomalak than Khan.

Khablam fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Aug 12, 2014

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Didn't they make a point of blowing up the propeller screw? That seems pretty great for a "limit their movement" perspective but less good from a "stop them from nuking the Southeastern Seaboard" perspective. They had the location, bearing and speed of the Russian ship and it would have been awesome if they summoned up the helicopter to launch every ASW torpedo they could launch without giving away their position.

I understand "no because plot and/or wizard" is a valid reason for doing anything but I think they're missing an opportunity to milk the paranoia of the premise for all it's worth. Tom Clancy sold millions of books to people who wanted to pretend they were in the Navy. That poo poo is fascinating, and it hits what has to be TNT's demographic sweet spot. You can lay recycled Star Trek B plots over just about anything, so why not hire a few actual Navy pukes to make it real.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Khablam posted:

Sure - it's not ideal if you're on the boat at the time, but then we see multiple charges being set off once they're clear, in critical areas like the front top deck and random hallway B. Why not anywhere vital?
Or do they expect all the tension in the show to come from the same ship the whole time?

Perhaps if they are stuck re-making Star Trek episode concepts, maybe the Russian captain is more Tomalak than Khan.

Over thinking it dude, just float with it.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Rocksicles posted:

Over thinking it dude, just float with it.
Yeah but that's the problem, I'm watching it in 'bad summer show' mode yet the plot issues are so stark I still can't ignore them.
Doesn't matter though, the show is still entertaining enough to bother with. Hopefully it doesn't try to take itself too seriously.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Khablam posted:

Yeah but that's the problem, I'm watching it in 'bad summer show' mode yet the plot issues are so stark I still can't ignore them.
Doesn't matter though, the show is still entertaining enough to bother with. Hopefully it doesn't try to take itself too seriously.

Too seriously?

After the "For all of you your enlistments are up, we'll let you leave with supplies because you've honored your contract, just meet us on deck tomorrow" followed by all of the specific crewman showing up, then giving the captain a flag and saying "We all want to reenlist"?

If the writers aren't aware that this is Tom Clancy-esque military porn the this show will soon collapse under the weight of its own pretensions. If they are, it's going to be amazing.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011
That was a solid episode :911: rip the engineering guy

also if i ever got captured by bad guys i'd just sing My Name Is (eminem)

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
That delivered what I want from a summertime action apocalyptic navy show.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

That was a solid episode :911: rip the engineering guy

also if i ever got captured by bad guys i'd just sing My Name Is (eminem)

I wonder how far you could get into "My name is Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid Kid Rock!" before the rifle buttstroke comes down.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

That was a solid episode :911: rip the engineering guy

also if i ever got captured by bad guys i'd just sing My Name Is (eminem)

More like RIP all those poor engineers on the Russian ship.

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

Octy posted:

More like RIP all those poor engineers on the Russian ship.

Yeah, first they get shot up, then get blown up.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Sober posted:

Yeah, first they get shot up, then get blown up.

Then infected, serves those pinko's right for messing with the U S A!

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

GaussianCopula posted:

My secret dream is that they make a HBO quality level TV show out of the whole Ryanverse (- everything after Red Rabbit). I would kill for some cold war poo poo.


And please get Kiefer Sutherland to play John Clark.

I want Red Storm Rising, the series. Going to need one hell of a budget though.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

richardfun posted:

I want Red Storm Rising, the series. Going to need one hell of a budget though.

As much as I agree with you and want that to happen, it will never happen. Unless some insane billionaire funds the production of such a series out of his own bank account. It would be the most expensive TV series in history (if done to scale).

  • Locked thread