9/11 Trutherism and what I just can't figure out about the conspiracy crowd

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Eat My Ghastly Ass: Jul 24, 2007

My idiot truther friend just posted this on Facebook. I'm trying to figure the best way to tell him he might be schizophrenic.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 02:50

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duck monster: Dec 15, 2004

Pretty sure the illuminati don't go whacking 1%ers just to HYPNOTOAD the masses lol

Clearly it was a faked death.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 14:45

I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

Randy Quaid knew the truth! Why didn't we listen then?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 15:47

Section 31: Mar 4, 2012

E-Tank posted:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/18/another-russia-today-reporter-resigns-every-single-day-were-lying-and-finding-sexier-ways-to-do-it/

Indeed.

Bribed, or perhaps captured then brainwashed by MI6 and CIA thugs?

But really, while "truthers" might seem like laughing stock in America. If you go to countries with majority of population who are cynical towards USA, truthers aren't really laughing stock and in some cases, like Russia, people who are devout conspiracy theorists even have high-ranking positions within the government. You probably even know former Iran president Ahmadinejad who IIRC publicly proclaimed 9/11 as false-flag attack and/or into Holocaust denial.

They're not even the average mad-man like in the US, some "truthers" are even very highly educated. Most of those who are into conspiracy theories domain stem from their view toward America's foreign policy.

If you try to explain, they will probably just reply "**cough** Snowden...NSA..." "How about the WMD in Iraq...hmmm?" and mention CIA/USA-sponsored coups "They overthrow these populist figures" "They install puppet dictators in [[insert countries here]]" and so on. And seeing as how many of these people have experienced the result of America's foreign policy on their home soil first-hand, I don't think you can fully blame them.

Section 31 fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Aug 14, 2014

# ? Aug 14, 2014 23:54

I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

Yeah, if the CIA has actually murdered your president or given guns to rebels that killed your family and ruined your city, I will give you a pass on believing the one conspiracy theory that isn't true.

# ? Aug 15, 2014 00:00

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

A huge loving downside to the way the CIA used a vaccination clinic as a front to verify the location of Osama bin Laden is the justification it gave to vaccine paranoia in that part of the world.

# ? Aug 15, 2014 01:05

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

Redeye Flight posted:

How has no-one put THESE two and two together yet?

Ron Paul says that the US government has secretly taken some of the gold out of Fort Knox, so the idea is kicking around.

# ? Aug 15, 2014 04:04

snorch: Jul 27, 2009

I have a coworker who is deep into this stuff. He sent me a poorly hacked together "independent study" that was making all sorts of claims about how microwave radiation causes cancer, and I was pointing out that it was stacking shaky premise upon shaky premise. He went on to say that sometimes you just have to trust your intuition to extrapolate inferences on this stuff, upon which I tried to highlight the difference between an intuitive truth and an empirical truth.

Me: "Intuition is what tells you 'maybe'."
Him: "For me it's more like 'almost sure'."

I think I understand a bit better now.

# ? Aug 15, 2014 12:06

Section 31: Mar 4, 2012

Some folks will probably believe that every "bad thing" is courtesy of the Great Evil USA :911:

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commentaryanalysis/560119-baghdadi-denial-syndrome

quote:

One of the most alarming features of Arab responses to the rise of the Islamic State (IS) in Syria and Iraq is a persistent pattern of neurotic denial in the form of conspiracy theories and other escapist fantasies. But running away from the truth will only complicate the ability of Arab states and societies to comprehend where the IS came from, how it has unexpectedly managed to surge into so much power so quickly, and how it can be effectively countered.

One of the most persistent and widespread delusions is that the IS did not, in fact, emerge from Sunni Muslim communities in Iraq and Syria over the course of the wars there in the past decade. Instead, it is increasingly asserted, the IS is a creature of, and was established by, intelligence services such as the CIA or the Israeli Mossad. An extraordinarily large number of Arabs, Muslims and others appear to have taken refuge in these conspiracy theories. Call it Baghdadi Denial Syndrome.

The most outlandish version circulating online holds that IS leader and "caliph" Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is, in fact, a Jewish actor named Elliot Shimon, or some such plausibly-Jewish name. Shimon, it's laughably alleged, was trained for a year by the Mossad in various skills, including theology and rhetoric....

This comment made me chuckle though

quote:

2jews sitting on a bank reading newspapers, one read an Israeli paper, the other an Arab one. The jew asks the other how come that you read this Arab paper? It is full of wrong Infos. He replied, well, if I read the Jewish paper, I only see the quarrels between us, how bad we are seen in the world, etc. I, on the contrary love to hear in the Arab outlets how we control the world, the banks, Hollywood. This makes me feel strong

# ? Aug 16, 2014 23:29

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Section 31 posted:

Some folks will probably believe that every "bad thing" is courtesy of the Great Evil USA

To be fair, the Middle East has relatively recent examples they can point to where Western intelligence agencies were involved in uprisings, revolts, and armed groups. It didn't help that during the Cold War the US and Soviets actively fed rumors that the CIA/KGB were behind everything even if there was no evidence. Combine with that the fact that the leadership of these countries also aren't very interested in keeping their citizens well informed.

# ? Aug 17, 2014 03:50

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Islamic state isis came from the syrian opposition right? Those groups were funded, armed and probably trained by the USA and no doubt the CIA was involved.

People were warning at the time that some of these groups were even more extreme than Al Qaeda...

# ? Aug 17, 2014 20:07

Smoothrich: Nov 8, 2009; Can't post for 2 years!

JFairfax posted:

Islamic state isis came from the syrian opposition right? Those groups were funded, armed and probably trained by the USA and no doubt the CIA was involved.

People were warning at the time that some of these groups were even more extreme than Al Qaeda...

Pretty sure they are a loose coalition of every sunni hosed over in any way since Saddam was toppled. Such as old army officers who were fired and banned from their work by Bush and Friends pooling their stategic planning with local militia recruiters and so on.

# ? Aug 17, 2014 23:32

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

That certainly seems to be a good proportion of their base, but also:

Away from the publicised gains, Isis is quietly making progress on other fronts. Perhaps the most worrying is the fact that armed groups backed by the US have been co-opted by Isis.

After its sweeping military success in Iraq in June, Isis moved to take over the strategic province in Deir Ezzor, where the rebels controlled lucrative oil and gas resources. To the surprise of many, the group quickly controlled towns and villages that were home to some of the group's most powerful adversaries, including Jabhat al-Nusra and locally rooted tribal militias.

According to Samer al-Ani, an opposition media activist from Deir Ezzor, several fighting groups affiliated to the western-backed Military Council worked discreetly with Isis, even before the group's latest offensive. Liwa al-Ansar and Liwa Jund al-Aziz, he said, pledged allegiance to Isis in secret, with reports that Isis is using them to put down a revolt by the Sha'itat tribe near the Iraqi border.

He warned that money being sent through members of the National Coalition to rebels in Deir Ezzor risks going to Isis. Another source from Deir Ezzor said that these groups pledged loyalty to Isis four months ago, so this was not forced as a result of Isis's latest push, as happened elsewhere. Such collaboration was key to the takeover of Deir Ezzor in recent weeks, especially in areas where Isis could not defeat the local forces so easily.

This is not the first, or the only, time in which groups affiliated to the military structures backed by the US and the Gulf states have worked with Isis. Saddam al-Jamal, a top commander for the Free Syrian Army's eastern front, pledged allegiance to Isis in November and fought in its ranks, wreaking a grisly carnage in his hometown of Abu Kamal in April. Other groups affiliated to the western-backed military councils that have pledged allegiance to Isis include Liwa Fajr al-Islam in Homs.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/10/isis-syria-iraq-barack-obama-airstrikes

# ? Aug 17, 2014 23:47

Mr. Sunshine: May 15, 2008; This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt); Fun Shoe

Moderate, secular groups within the Syrian opposition were "backed" by the US and Europe insofar that western leaders were sort-of maybe admitting in public that they sort-of hoped these guys would win. Moderate opposition groups received a little non-weapon aid like radios and medical supplies, and a load of outdated weapons from what, the Balkans?
Isis isn't part of the Syrian opposition so much as they are slowly killing off every other opposition group. They're well known for preferring to attack other opposition groups over regime forces. They're bankrolled by wealthy saudis, armed to the teeth, and veterans of a decade of fighting US forces in Iraq. Calling them "funded, armed and probably trained by the USA" is so loving wrong I don't even know where to start...

# ? Aug 19, 2014 09:55

Nckdictator: Sep 8, 2006; Just..someone

Not modern or very political but I think I found my new favorite conspiracy theory.

Jack The Ripper was Hitler

quote:

We have to start with the case of "Jack the Ripper",
who was it appears, just a code-name for a high-level
british secret society entertaining themselves with
satanic ritual murder. Amongst those -rumour goes-,
was none other than "Prince Albert Victor" Duke of
Clarence and Avon, heir of Prince Albert and Queen
Victoria. Those were the days when that royalty was
still called by its true name "Saxe-Koburg-Gotha"
from Germany, before they changed to "Windsor" in
1917, to appease the masses during WWI. Prince A.V.
was born 1864, and conveniently "died" in 1891 (fact
disputed by many), after a big homosexual scandal in
a brothel involving some high profile politicians; maybe
1 gay scandal and 1 suspicion of being the Ripper, was
one too many 1's for the Crown, who legend says just
sent him out of the country forever in secret. This
satanic clique is thought of as having an obsession
with English Gematria codes, so numeric "signatures"
are thought to be (key: a=1, b=2, ..., z=26):
[ALBERT=58="Jack the"] [RIPPER=82=PAV/ETR]
{pav/etr: full 1st/last initials of PrincE AlberT VictoR}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Albert_piercing
Then there is the famous "Prince Albert Piercing" in
the Penis gland , unclear referred to him or his father.
Then there is The Ripper letters, with clue lines as:
"Funny Little Games", "They Say I'm a Doctor Now",
"Trade Name", etc:
[ LITTLE GAMES = 123 ]
[ PRINCE ALBERT = 123 = DUKE OF CLARENCE ]
Full 1st/last initials "Prince Albert Duke of Clarence":
[ "a PADOC/ETEFE = 81 = "Trade Name" ]
1st Duke of Clarence died in the Tower of London:
[ Tower = 81 ]

So if they secretly exiled him for being a bloody psycho,
where did he go...? This is where the rumours lead to
none other than...Hitler. Starting with a striking physical
resemblance, they look IDENTICAL, comparing pics of
"young Hitler". It is of course a strong historical anomaly
that a low-level man like Adolf, with dropout 'education',
definitely low IQ, who was rejected twice at the academy
trying to become a painter, and who came with Hysteria
during his WWI in the front, would become the powerful
and astute manipulator of masses and kings. His parents
Alois & Clara Hitler had 5 children, of which just Adolf &
Paula survived; she lived to old age and changed her name
at Adolf's request during his glory years, so no one knew
he had a sister. She worked as his house tender woman,
died without children in 1960. Was he just ashamed of her
low class, or was she a SIGN his family did not match his
supposed Fuhrer persona, so he hid her...? Their parents
died in 1903 and 1907, Adolf did not register for military
service in 1909, it took 4 years for authorities to catch up
with him. It is unkown where he was, and scanty facts
speak of him showing odd behaviour, depression, crying
looking at the wall. Adolf visited Liverpool in his youth,
had a british cousin/nephew (William Patrick) there. To
make matters worse, there are also strong rumours the
"original" Adolf was actually Baron Rothschild's bastard
grandson, as his grandma was a house/slave of his, and
it is well known he abused her during her entire life.
When during WWI the SS Office of Genealogical Research
decided to propagandize about the nazi leaders glorious
"aryan genetic roots", in shock they discovered this, and
promptly retrieved the project (it meant Adolf was jew).
This 'dark secret' has been cited to explan his hatred for
jews, as psychological projection. However since Hitler's
body "was never found", there is no way to look for DNA
evidence of him traced to the Prince Albert lineage. See?
This would explain -conspiriologists say-, why he could
just not die like everyone else, and some say he never did
die in 1945, but retired to idyllic Bariloche-Argentina, so
beautifully similar to his beloved Bavarian Alps, under the
known protection of Juan Peron (1946 to 1952 and on).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Per%C3%B3n

So goes the CASE OF A SUBSTITUTION, where exiled
heir to the british crown Prince Albert Victor assumes the
identity of one obscure irrelevant Adolf Hitler, chosen not
only based on his name, but on the Rothschild 'dark' blood
lineage (illuminati top players often have bastard offspring
that they place high in "opposite camps", so they control all
sides of every artificially created conflict). Thus Adolf and
Eva Braun did not have offspring neither, that would give
away Dna evidence as well. A strange case of... Zero Dna!?
So the story goes, in Nov 18-1908, young Adolf left his old
address without a forwarding address; enter the famous
"lost years of Adolf". Rumour goes exiled Prince Albert
Victor had been studying Architecture in the meantime
-as it was one of his passions-, thus this would also explain
the inexplicable, that acc. to none other than master architect
of the 3rd Reich -Albert Speer-, Hitler was a "good architect"
(in his own words). How come? Unless he was Prince Albert
student of Architecture of course. He and Speer would go on
to re-design Berlin, a habit still continued up until his very
"death"; models of their majestic urban/arch plans have been
reconstructed, and they are pretty darn good. Never mind
how an obscure low IQ low-class abnormal depressive guy
without any formal education could have achieved such...
Hitler painted as well, and eerily both Arch. & Painting are
2 passions of one Prince Charles. Paula H. had no contact
with Adolf during is 'alone' years and military career; she met
him again in Vienna in the 1920's. During official 12 July '45
interrogation by the allies, she declared: "I never saw him
from 1908 until 1921 (that's 13 years, and she was the only
relative that could identify him). And he added: "I did not
recognize him at first when he walked into the house". Was
she aware he was NOT the original "Adolf". It appears so;
until 2005 it was thought she was a bystander in the nazi
period, only relation to Adolf being her working as his maid
at first, and then he got her a job as secretary in a military
hospital (he gave her their father's military pension as well,
that he had lived-off during his 'alone' years, it was quite a
decent wage). However only in 2005 it was revealed she had
been engaged to one of the most notorious euthanasia doctors,
Dr. Erwin Jekelius, but Adolf did not allow her to marry him.
Docs that prove this are suspected of being fake, but there is
something funky with her "innocent" story. At any rate Adolf
gave the name "Frau Wolf(f)" for her to use per life. And yes,
her own vagaries after her mother's death (1909), are unkown.
Why would anybody forge her docs? Distraction of the truth?
[Paula Hitler=123=Prince Albert=Duke of Clarence]
Did this numerological coincidence keep her alive?

Now on Queen Victoria's side, the british dynasty name is
"Mountbatten/Battenburg":
[ ADOLF HITLER = 110 = BATTENBURG ]
Was this numerology the reason to choose "Adolf Hitler"
as identity-theft victim on the part of a numbers obsessed
Albert Victor? Let's keep in mind that also there is a Rhyme
relation, as: "r-I-pp-ER" rhymes with "h-I-tl-ER".
And then of course the famous legend of Hitler having been
bisexual in his lost years, a rumour than continued on during
his glory years as Fuhrer, the other nazi leaders nicknamed
his former jail partner after the Putsch (Rudolph Hess)
"Frau Hess" -Mrs. Hess-', for this reason. Psychological
studies conducted by allied intelligence services on Hitler,
state that he had a sexual perversion, wanting to see (and
else) defecate a young woman. The urban lore about Hitler's
lost years in total debauchery, is well-known. The point is,
this woud match a debauched Albert Victor's personality,
both sexually, and his lust for blood. If there's any truth to
any of this, naturally. But other "clues" can be found.

We observe the ritual codename "RIPPER" contains an
all-too-obvious giveaway clue "PR" (PR-ince), whereas the
other "Adolf Hitler" of alleged identity-theft, was born in
April 20: ""a-PR-il". Hitler's birthday was lavishly & ritually
celebrated each year, with famous international dignataries
always invited ceremonially, including Vatican top envoys.
You'll also notice the name for his book "Mein Kampf":
[ MEIN = 41 = DUKE ]
Particularly revealing is the last name he chose her sister
to change to -"Wolf(f)": [ WOLF = 56 = APRIL ]. While
on the other hand he chose for sole partner "Eva Braun":
[ BRAUN = 56 = APRIL = WOLF = ALOIS ]
"Alois" being Adolf''s father. Also eeringly plausible as
another reason to riskily let Paula Hitler live on:
[ PAULA = 51 = GOTHA ]
Prince Albert Victor's last name: "Saxe-Koburg-Gotha".

Besides this, as the "Branau" location-name became then
later a nazi term (New Branau, etc) -for Eva Braun-one
may also conclude the real reason he chose her as partner:
[ BRANAU = ENGLAND ]
So a distinct picture begins to emerge of this identity-theft
scenario as quite plausible, with Albert Victor methodically
and obsessivelly/ritually laying out all the proper clues his
royal dignity wold merit, for posterity and for enjoyment of
the secret elite. And last -but not least-, the also inexplicable
anomaly of Hitler always carrying in his hand a WHIP; it was
actually a dog-whip, and this could have been a clue as to his
royal former british hunting days, as well as a pun for his
sado-masoquistic excesses. Did the Ripper disguise his knife
inside a dog-whip...? Do the numbers again:
[ WHIP = 56 = BRAUN = WOLF = APRIL = ALOIS ]
Yes, it helps to observe, reversing "56" to "65" (mirror No.):
[ 65 = PRINCE ]

http://deep-high.blogspot.ca/2008/06/who-was-really-hitler.html

# ? Aug 20, 2014 01:13

muscles like this!: Jan 17, 2005

I stopped reading that part way through, does it address the fact that Prince Albert was 25 years older than Hitler?

# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:00

I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Hitler was born after at least a few of the ripper killings.

Or is he claiming Prince Albert killed the real baby Hitler and took his place like some kind of super-spy?

# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:04

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

65=PRINCE.

Well you've sold me.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:06

Mr. Funny Pants: Apr 9, 2001

I feel really stupid pointing out individual things wrong with that post, but....

quote:

Thus Adolf and Eva Braun did not have offspring neither, that would give away Dna evidence as well.

Adolf and Eva decided against having kids because they didn't want to leave DNA evidence. DNA evidence in the 1940s.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:14

Felix_Cat: Sep 15, 2008

quote:

Hitler was a "good architect" (in his own words). How come? Unless he was Prince Albert student of Architecture of course.

I'm partial to this particular deduction myself.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:20

NLJP: Aug 26, 2004

I don't know why but the funniest part of that to me was the 'the famous "Prince Albert Piercing" in
the Penis gland'

First of all, penis gland? That has all sorts of other implications (a misspelling of course but funny).

I do love how it always eventually comes down to dicks. Maybe reptillians actually have their prostrate in the glans???!!! Just asking questions here guys.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:21

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

muscles like this? posted:

I stopped reading that part way through, does it address the fact that Prince Albert was 25 years older than Hitler?

That's why Hitler was going seemingly crazy later in the war (typical old guy senility). Duhhh

# ? Aug 20, 2014 04:24

Munin: Nov 14, 2004

My favourite *conspiracy connections* thing I saw recently was this one:

woozle wuzzle posted:

Today I was paid to spend about 2 hours with an aforementioned sovereign citizen client. He was serious as a heart attack while telling me about the following:

This is the Washington DC flag:

And this is the London flag:

Now, <dramatic pause> THIS is the Vatican flag:

Yeah. That's right. Proof is right in front of you, just open your eyes.

Simply because I have not a clue about what should spring to the eye at that point.

It is linked to this kind of conspiratorial thinking:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States
http://xi4.com/2012/08/04/the-hidde...wns-us-and-how/

Munin fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Aug 20, 2014

# ? Aug 20, 2014 13:57

Jazerus: May 24, 2011

Munin posted:

My favourite *conspiracy connections* thing I saw recently was this one:

Simply because I have not a clue about what should spring to the eye at that point.

It is linked to this kind of conspiratorial thinking:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States
http://xi4.com/2012/08/04/the-hidde...wns-us-and-how/

There are three stars and a cross on the stylized pope hat on the Vatican flag.

Clearly, a grand conspiracy.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 14:58

Star Man: Jun 1, 2008; There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

And the fact that DC's flag resembles Washington's coat of arms is proof that it's been going on for centuries.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 17:17

Chupe Raho Aurat: Jun 22, 2011; by Lowtax

Nckdictator posted:

Not modern or very political but I think I found my new favorite conspiracy theory.

Jack The Ripper was Hitler

How loving sick in the head do you have to be to believe this? How much effort would it take to hide all the "clues" found in the theory given here?

�Ok, I want to hide a specific number as a clue, so find me a name based on a very loose system of coded math� then break it down till you end up with two digits. Then reverse those digits.. for no reason�

# ? Aug 20, 2014 18:17

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Chupe Raho Aurat posted:

How loving sick in the head do you have to be to believe this? How much effort would it take to hide all the "clues" found in the theory given here?

�Ok, I want to hide a specific number as a clue, so find me a name based on a very loose system of coded math� then break it down till you end up with two digits. Then reverse those digits.. for no reason�

Schizophrenia

# ? Aug 20, 2014 20:26

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

Chupe Raho Aurat posted:

How loving sick in the head do you have to be to believe this? How much effort would it take to hide all the "clues" found in the theory given here?

�Ok, I want to hide a specific number as a clue, so find me a name based on a very loose system of coded math� then break it down till you end up with two digits. Then reverse those digits.. for no reason�

Still more plausible than 9/11 being done by space lasers and actors.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 20:34

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

I don't see any gold fringe on those flags, not a real sovereign citizen.

# ? Aug 20, 2014 20:57

Chupe Raho Aurat: Jun 22, 2011; by Lowtax

I saw a sovereign citizen get their car towed today, they were bleating on about how they don't even need plates.

Big black truck dude didn't give a gently caress..

# ? Aug 21, 2014 13:31

CSM: Jan 29, 2014; 56th Motorized Infantry 'Mariupol' Brigade
Seh' die Welt in Trummern liegen

Seventh Arrow posted:

Does anyone know of any good video rebuttals to the whole "Loose Change" stuff? My Pop, in his retirements years, has taken to watching lots of documentaries and has for some reason taken a shine to the LC videos. Dunno why, he's usually more skeptical than that. Anyways, any links I could send him would be cool.

https://myspace.com/responsepromotions/video/screw-loose-change/59286904

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.be/

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/#Video

# ? Aug 21, 2014 13:32

Chupe Raho Aurat: Jun 22, 2011; by Lowtax

It might also help to tell him that the first version of LC was created as a fictionally writing exercise, then the creator (Dylan Avery) was approached by a crazy rich man that offered him an enormous sum of money if he could find proof that LC was actually true. What a surprise! The "creative writing exercise" turned out to be completely accurate!!

The creator of LC also does not believe the holocaust happened.

Also Dylan (as of 2013) admits he does not believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy ideas presented in LC

# ? Aug 21, 2014 14:57

Tias: May 25, 2008; Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

So, a person I know wants "validation" that flouridated toothpaste is actually insanely poisonous and NO ONE KNOWZ AOUBT IT, linking to an article that, among other neat claims, said that flouride "calcifies your pineal gland, rendering it docile", and kept ignoring people telling her it was bunk. She's involved with scientology, too, so I guess that's kind of a lost cause.

I grew up in the 80s, and it was pretty commonly accepted back then that flouride was both good and bad, but I guess a lot of it was due to my parents generation being impressionable hippies. Flour isn't bad for me, is it? :ohdear:

Chupe Raho Aurat posted:

Also Dylan (as of 2013) admits he does not believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy ideas presented in LC

Yo Chupe, we miss you in the psych ward thread! :allears:

# ? Aug 21, 2014 16:57

FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

Chupe Raho Aurat posted:

I saw a sovereign citizen get their car towed today, they were bleating on about how they don't even need plates.

Big black truck dude didn't give a gently caress..

I love everything about this post.

# ? Aug 21, 2014 16:59

Mercury_Storm: Jun 12, 2003; *chomp chomp chomp*

Tias posted:

I grew up in the 80s, and it was pretty commonly accepted back then that flouride was both good and bad, but I guess a lot of it was due to my parents generation being impressionable hippies. Flour isn't bad for me, is it?

Well you know how all those gluten free products are becoming available now? It's because the SHEEPLE are waking up, and the megacorps have to respond by toning down the Big Gov gluten mind control serums they put in cereal!

(I have no idea if this is a real conspiracy or not, but I'm ---- OH wait quick google search says it basically is: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/04/can-eating-this-common-grain-cause-psychiatric-problems.aspx
http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/symptomsofceliacdisease/a/Celiac-Disease-Brain-Fog.htm)

BRAIN FOG!!!

# ? Aug 21, 2014 17:35

Laphroaig: Feb 6, 2004; Drinking Smoke; Dinosaur Gum

Mercury_Storm posted:

Well you know how all those gluten free products are becoming available now? It's because the SHEEPLE are waking up, and the megacorps have to respond by toning down the Big Gov gluten mind control serums they put in cereal!

(I have no idea if this is a real conspiracy or not, but I'm ---- OH wait quick google search says it basically is: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/04/can-eating-this-common-grain-cause-psychiatric-problems.aspx
http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/symptomsofceliacdisease/a/Celiac-Disease-Brain-Fog.htm)

BRAIN FOG!!!

Ah yes, "the itis", well known CIA FBI KKK conspiracy to suppress the masses

# ? Aug 21, 2014 18:42

Begemot: Oct 14, 2012; The One True Oden

Tias posted:

So, a person I know wants "validation" that flouridated toothpaste is actually insanely poisonous and NO ONE KNOWZ AOUBT IT, linking to an article that, among other neat claims, said that flouride "calcifies your pineal gland, rendering it docile", and kept ignoring people telling her it was bunk. She's involved with scientology, too, so I guess that's kind of a lost cause.

Fluoride is highly poisonous, but only in quantities vastly larger than are in water/toothpaste. But that is why you're not supposed to swallow your toothpaste.

# ? Aug 21, 2014 18:43

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Begemot posted:

Fluoride is highly poisonous, but only in quantities vastly larger than are in water/toothpaste. But that is why you're not supposed to swallow your toothpaste.

But how else will I clean my lungs?

# ? Aug 21, 2014 19:02

duz: Jul 11, 2005; Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost

Sir Tonk posted:

But how else will I clean my lungs?

With cigarettes, what else? Do you even pay attention to the surgeon general?

# ? Aug 21, 2014 19:18

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# ? May 14, 2024 01:00

Seventh Arrow: Jan 26, 2005

Out of amusement, I've been watching a show on Netflix called "Unsealed: Conspiracy Files" or something like that. I'm quite amazed (maybe I shouldn't be) that the conspiracy crowd thinks that government weather control is a thing. I mean, I'm no scientist, but it seems like if you wanted to engineer something like a tornado or a tsunami, it would take a crazy amount of energy.

But then again, I guess if you've taken a dive into the conspiracy pool you could just say that they've been harnessing the power of red mercury or something.

# ? Aug 21, 2014 19:40

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