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A long and proud tradition of keeping people on small island nations like cattle.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:11 |
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How many refugees has Japan taken in recently? We are often told that Australia's policies on boat people makes us a racist pariah in Asia, a bit hard to swallow when you look at what Japan or Thailand does. A western country with the wealth and demographics of Japan would be regarded as an ethnocentric relic yet few people level this at Japan. Why? Ian Winthorpe III fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Aug 13, 2014 |
# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:12 |
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How many wars has Japan gone and picked resulting in mass displacement recently?
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:15 |
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They're talking about white people.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:15 |
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Gough Suppressant posted:How many wars has Japan gone and picked resulting in mass displacement recently? The same ones we did doofus. http://journal.unair.ac.id/filerPDF/global6%20mt.pdf
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:20 |
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:The same ones we did doofus. You are seriously going to compare the role of Japan to that of the US, UK and Australia?
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:27 |
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why would you try and "reform" a religion why not just fucken quit religion we live in the 21 st century and mobile phones and space ships not pagan times you dont need to belive in the big floating YHWH up in the sky these days
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:33 |
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soag you are a true goon
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:35 |
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goony goony goon. that's you. soag the goon
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:36 |
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Freudian Slip posted:Yeah - we know now from the latest FOI request that when Hockey/Shepherd/Dutton were all talking about on average Australians see a GP 11 times a year they were lying. They were quoting the average number of times an aged pensioner sees a GP a year. Speaking of which: quote:Audit chief Tony Shepherd pushed traffic forecasts on Lane Cove Tunnel
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:42 |
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Gough Suppressant posted:You are seriously going to compare the role of Japan to that of the US, UK and Australia? Yes, they were part of the coalition of the willing and their presence helped legitimize the war. And regardless of that we take refugees from Sudan or kosher and Iran and Sri Lanka. I realize we have a shoddy and often heartless approach but I don't understand why our imperfect policies are held as black stains against the nation's soul while Japans openly xenophobic and ethnocentric approach is excused
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:43 |
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:Yes, they were part of the coalition of the willing and their presence helped legitimize the war. And regardless of that we take refugees from Sudan or kosher and Iran and Sri Lanka. Japan sent construction and engineer corps. They didn't do any actual killing. They didn't even have weapons on them. Their constitution specifically prohibits them from engaging in foreign wars. When Australia has such an upright and noble constitution, then we can claim the moral high ground. Stop being a disingenuous poo poo, and stop posting the literal arguments of white supremacists. You gigantic dork.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:52 |
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The Japanese were the 2nd largest donor the UNHCR in 2012. They're also one of the largest donors of foreign aid in the world. The UNHCR Japan summary seems pretty optimistic as well. quote:In Japan, the year 2012 saw the highest number of asylum applications to date (2,545), with progress made in the handling of asylum cases. For instance, alternatives to detention are being arranged for asylum-seekers. The Government has also reiterated its commitment to continue offering resettlement places after the current pilot phase of the resettlement programme ends in 2014. So, yeah, the Japanese have problems but it almost appears as if they're slowly taking steps to be slightly better about things. Gradual improvement is better than constantly finding new ways to treat asylum seekers like poo poo.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 10:59 |
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Soag posted:why would you try and "reform" a religion why not just fucken quit religion we live in the 21 st century and mobile phones and space ships not pagan times I like you, Soag.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:01 |
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:How many refugees has Japan taken in recently? We critique Australia first and with the most scrutiny because we are Australians and it's our loving job as citizens. Arguing relative privation or tu quoque is lazy at best and at worst, wilfully obfuscating.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:06 |
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Fruity Gordo posted:Not mine Reform Judaism owns
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:24 |
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Soag posted:why would you try and "reform" a religion why not just fucken quit religion we live in the 21 st century and mobile phones and space ships not pagan times Its all about the thetans mate.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:25 |
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:34 |
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Lizard Combatant posted:We critique Australia first and with the most scrutiny because we are Australians and it's our loving job as citizens. Arguing relative privation or tu quoque is lazy at best and at worst, wilfully obfuscating. IWC willfully obfuscating an argument? Well I loving never
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:39 |
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Maybe you ought to take a second to consider that for every 50 Western-born Moslems who grow up to become radical, there are 5000 who grow up to become atheists (whether they declare that publicly or not) but who then remain silent on the matter. For every 5 Western Moslems who were barracking for ISIS to genocide the Yazidis, there are were 5,000000 who were hoping the Yazidis survived. All Moslems in the West face systemic and overt prejudice, but their Western experience dilutes the amount of belief in god in their community, and that can only be a good thing, because emigrant culture does eventually, in some ways, affect the culture of their place of origin. In 15 years of closely observing politics there have been two clear trends in western countries. The rise of right wing xenophobia and the rise in islamist conciousness and identity. You yourself bristle at 'systemic and overt prejudice', others bristle at the unfamiliar and unknowable passions of the new residents. If you face systemic and over prejudice from a system that will also erode the faith of your kids then why keep moving to the West? quote:And for gently caress's sake, stop treating Islamic cultures as though they were monolithic. Not even Arabic cultures are monolithic. I'm aware of this, it's on the news every night.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:42 |
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Murodese posted:IWC willfully obfuscating an argument? Well I loving never
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:43 |
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Who defends Japan's immigration policies?
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:46 |
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Nibbles! posted:Who defends Japan's immigration policies? Nobody, he just pulled it out of his ars- sorry, IWC Argument Utility Belt. Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Aug 13, 2014 |
# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:50 |
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who are all y'all's favourite arabs mine would have to be syrians i think if we're being incorrect and bigoted and classing the whole middle east as arabs my favourite middle easterners are 1: Turks 2: Syrians 3: Persians
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:52 |
*Don't engage IWC *Religion can sometimes be cool and lead to positive social benefit, and sometimes it does not. *Australia is a worse international citizen than Japan *Death Is Certain *Fart
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:52 |
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Nibbles! posted:Who defends Japan's immigration policies? Moreover, who defends anything related to Japan? The country made possession of child pornography illegal this year (2014). With a one year grace period. Also has sky-high rates of sexual assault.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:53 |
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Haters Objector posted:*Religion can sometimes be cool and lead to positive social benefit, and sometimes it does not. but net social bad
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:53 |
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legitimately japan is a more racist country than australia and if you think otherwise youve succumbed to the knee-jerk circle-jerk of contemporary australian leftism
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:55 |
Soag posted:but net social bad I think there would be a pretty significant gap in humanitarian work in Australia if not for faith-based charities
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 11:59 |
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Murodese posted:Moreover, who defends anything related to Japan? The country made possession of child pornography illegal this year (2014). With a one year grace period. Also has sky-high rates of sexual assault. Don't forget it's also the country that still refuses to acknowledge the genocide it committed against the Chinese people.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 12:07 |
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I have been told on a few occasions that China is stupidly racist also, especially towards Indians.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 12:18 |
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Nibbles! posted:Who defends Japan's immigration policies? Japan has given the world anime it doesn't need to take in any refugees.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 12:19 |
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Laserface posted:I have been told on a few occasions that China is stupidly racist also, especially towards Indians. Asia is pretty racist all up.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 12:33 |
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rudatron posted:Ethnic fascism is the same wherever you go, if it's not suppressed then you get a rerun of poo poo like yugoslavia. The tragedy of Yugoslavia lies not in the identity of it's ethnic groups but in the failure of the progressive, socialist Yugoslav state to transform ideals and propaganda of 'brotherhood' and 'diversity' into political reality. Sorry mate, own goal.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 12:34 |
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Japan sent construction and engineer corps. They didn't do any actual killing. They didn't even have weapons on them. Their constitution specifically prohibits them from engaging in foreign wars. Stop being a disingenuous poo poo, and stop posting the literal arguments of white supremacists. You gigantic dork. [/quote] Ok how about this; when you stop assessing your interests and views through the prism of your Arab/Muslim heritage and identity then I'll stop thinking like a White Christian
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 12:44 |
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Haters Objector posted:
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 13:03 |
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Who the gently caress says "tu quoque" seriously in an internet argument.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 13:08 |
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Dubs posted:Watch us Newcastle retards re-elect LNP, because jobs. High Five fellow Newcastle Goon, we should have a goon meet-up where we huddle in a vacant shop front on Hunter street.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 13:09 |
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Endman posted:Who the gently caress says "tu quoque" seriously in an internet argument. Pretentious wankers.
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Lizard Combatant posted:Pretentious wankers. Pretentious, moi?
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