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9031 | 65.25% |
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1603 | 11.58% |
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748 | 5.40% |
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pixaal posted:Some things age poorly, games with horrible control schemes or ways of displaying information, I'm looking at your daggerfall map! Daggerfall's map didn't age poorly. That was god awful when it was new (along with the rest of the game  ).
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Aug 13, 2014 16:34
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RadicalR posted:You can give me the Star Fox 64 code then! I'll put it to good use. I'll gladly take some Nintendo Bux in exchange. idk if you can do that, though.
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Aug 13, 2014 16:48
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Kirios posted:There is an incredibly short list of games more influential than Super Mario 64. When that game came out it blew my mind...it was amazing looking and there was nothing like it. That's great and all, and I know where you're coming from because I was about 12 when Mario 64 came out, and I remember playing it for the first time. Mario 64 is without a doubt one of the most important games that was ever released. I collected all 120 stars, I did everything there was to do in that game, but the thing is I don't base which games I like on how revolutionary they are. By the time Sunshine came out I was done with that sort of thing. Even when someone comes over now, and we're smoking a doob and decide to play Mario, the game that gets whipped out isn't Mario 64, it's Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario World, and 3D World is the closest they've come to those games in 3D. I know everyone's not going to agree with me, and that's fine because everyone has different tastes, but that's the style of game I want Mario to be. I don't want a big open sandbox. Zack_Gochuck fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 17:02
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Super Mario 64 is a single player game though..you probably wouldn't bust out Galaxy 1 or 2 and Sunshine unless they've never seen it before.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:07
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Kirios posted:Super Mario 64 is a single player game though..you probably wouldn't bust out Galaxy 1 or 2 and Sunshine unless they've never seen it before. Exactly. It's a totally different style of game than every Mario game that came before it. It has Mario in it, but like, it's not really a Mario Bros. game. Sunshine and 64 are almost like their own separate thing from the main series. Super Mario 3D World is Mario Bros. in 3D Zack_Gochuck fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 17:10
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64 has some pretty good platforming, it's really only Sunshine that I think is weak in that regard (except for the secrets). I mean, once you get past the first level set, most of the levels are pretty rife with hazards and traps to avoid. Lethal Lava Land was a stumbling block for 9-year-old me for a long time.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:17
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Mario 64 was so awful I got a Playstation instead. Sunshine will always be the better game.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:19
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Been playing 3D World the past couple nights. I like it a lot! I enjoyed 3D Land when I played it but this one feels more... whimsical? I can't quite put my finger on it but this is bar none one of the best Mario games to date. How long is the game, anyway? I just hit World 5 and it seems like it's the last area on my map but if 3D Land has taught me anything I'm nowhere close to the end.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:26
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I don't think the level of influence a game inspired matters at all, really.Kaubocks posted:Been playing 3D World the past couple nights. I like it a lot! I enjoyed 3D Land when I played it but this one feels more... whimsical? I can't quite put my finger on it but this is bar none one of the best Mario games to date. Eight worlds, and 3(?) after-game ones.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:27
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Kaubocks posted:Been playing 3D World the past couple nights. I like it a lot! I enjoyed 3D Land when I played it but this one feels more... whimsical? I can't quite put my finger on it but this is bar none one of the best Mario games to date. Nah, you're about halfway. Zack_Gochuck posted:Exactly. It's a totally different style of game than every Mario game that came before it. It has Mario in it, but like, it's not really a Mario Bros. game. Sunshine and 64 are almost like their own separate thing from the main series. Super Mario 3D World is Mario Bros. in 3D This is how I feel about it to. To me, Mario is a platformer. Something more like Super Mario world or Mario 3D World. That's Mario to me. I liked Mario 64 and Sunshine, a great deal, in fact, but they feel less like Mario games to me. I will still cheerfully buy Mario Sunshine HD, though, when/if it comes to pass.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:31
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noirstronaut posted:I don't think the level of influence a game inspired matters at all, really. Four after-game worlds. Star, Mushroom, Flower, Crown.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:35
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Mario 64 was so awful I got a Playstation instead. Sunshine will always be the better game. What's it like to have such a wrong opinion? 
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Aug 13, 2014 17:36
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RyokoTK posted:Four after-game worlds. Star, Mushroom, Flower, Crown. I do like how pretty much all the levels are drastically different. Mount Must Dash was hilarious and I really liked the aesthetic of... that poisony area with the piranha plants that snake along the ground. I forget what it was called. 
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Aug 13, 2014 17:38
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Man, how can you not love Mario 64 though? That game was almost perfect. Even the water levels weren't unbearable like they are in nearly every 3D platformer today still. The controls were so smooth and it had some great levels. The only weak parts were the flying stuff which was hard to do, and the fact that you could regain full health by surfacing in water.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:39
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Kaubocks posted:I really liked the aesthetic of... that poisony area with the piranha plants that snake along the ground. I forget what it was called. You're going to hate when you do the remix of this level in World Flower and you have to light all the torches. 
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Aug 13, 2014 17:45
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Sunshine had really good platforming though, people who say otherwise need to play it again. The aesthetic wears out its welcome, there are really lovely objectives (blue coins, that leaf boat, random paint poo poo), and there are fewer levels overall so the clunkers like that loving hotel really stand out. But it has some really good levels to explore with solid, challenging platforming. It's definitely an uneven experience and I never had a desire to go back to it, whereas I 100% Mario 64 a half-dozen times.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:47
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Sunshine is basically an open world Mario and they give you the ultimate tool (FLUDD) for traversing an open world. That people often say they preferred the hidden jetpack-less stages, which were abstract in design, as well as Galaxy, which is abstract in design, means Nintendo was probably on the right track by making Mario 3D World, which is abstract in design.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:52
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Kaubocks posted:So 12 worlds total? That's not bad. For the completionist in you, you also get to finish each level with every character so it'll feel even longer than 12 worlds! Does doing that get you a save file star actually?
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Aug 13, 2014 17:55
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ChaosArgate posted:For the completionist in you, you also get to finish each level with every character so it'll feel even longer than 12 worlds! Yeah, but that and a few stamps are all you get. Just get your 380 stars and be happy with that
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Aug 13, 2014 17:57
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ChaosArgate posted:For the completionist in you, you also get to finish each level with every character so it'll feel even longer than 12 worlds! OH NO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING I WILL BE COMPELLED TO DO gently caress 
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Aug 13, 2014 17:58
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Kaubocks posted:OH NO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING I WILL BE COMPELLED TO DO gently caress I thought I would be one of those people. Then I started doing it and decided i didn't need to be a completionist for once in my life...
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Aug 13, 2014 18:04
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Mario 64 was so awful I got a Playstation instead. Sunshine will always be the better game. Mario 64 was so awesome I returned my Playstation that I had had for a week in exchange for the wait for the N64 to come out.
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Aug 13, 2014 18:05
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Shibawanko posted:Man, how can you not love Mario 64 though? That game was almost perfect. Even the water levels weren't unbearable like they are in nearly every 3D platformer today still. The controls were so smooth and it had some great levels. The only weak parts were the flying stuff which was hard to do, and the fact that you could regain full health by surfacing in water. Yeah, I mean, it's not my favourite Mario game, but calling it a bad game is a bit of a stretch. You know what, though? PS1 outsold Nintendo 64 almost 3-1, so he wasn't the only one who felt like that, evidently. Zack_Gochuck fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 18:15
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Mario Sunshine's problem is that, for me, it had to justify the purchase of a game cube. While I liked a lot of gamecube titles (Wind Waker, Metroid etc.) none of them felt like system sellers. And neither did Sunshine, as good as it was.
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Aug 13, 2014 20:33
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Calling Mario 64 better than 3D World because of its legacy is really dumb. The game can be judged on its own merit and you should do so. Also sunshine was not designed to be 100% completed, the blue coins were made to create a meaningful collectable aside from the objectives, something it's managed better than any Mario since.
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Aug 13, 2014 20:54
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Both Banjo games do everything better than Mario 64, FWIW
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Aug 13, 2014 21:04
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ethanol posted:I just found rosalina's story time in galaxy 1 and I want to kill myself. really could use a skip button here You have no heart. Also its not required to visit the library so if you don't like it then just don't go in there. quote:Both Banjo games do everything better than Mario 64, FWIW Both Banjo games are bloated pieces of poo poo.
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Aug 13, 2014 21:05
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Speaking of 64 and all the crap it influenced, does anyone think it's likely for Nintendo to release this generation's storyline Mario game or will 3D World be enough? We had 64 on the, ya know, 64, Sunshine on GC, then Galaxy on the Wii.
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Aug 13, 2014 21:08
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Man I didn't know Hyrule Warriors was already out in Japan. I'm seeing posts about it from Miiverse people I'm following Does that mean Ganondorf was probably the final character reveal? Austrian mook posted:Both Banjo games do everything better than Mario 64, FWIW I went back and played the first one a year or two back and it doesn't hold up very well at all
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Aug 13, 2014 21:08
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Mario 64 hasn't aged that well, but it's still really fun. I'm torn on whther I would want an HD remake of that or Sunshine. On one hand, there are way more fantastical worlds available in 64 that would look stunning with 3D World's art style. On the other hand, all that gorgeous HD Mario Sunshine water 
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Aug 13, 2014 21:10
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Macaluso posted:Mario 64 hasn't aged that well, but it's still really fun. I'm torn on whther I would want an HD remake of that or Sunshine. On one hand, there are way more fantastical worlds available in 64 that would look stunning with 3D World's art style. On the other hand, all that gorgeous HD Mario Sunshine water We already used up our remake credits on the DS.
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Aug 13, 2014 21:12
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Macaluso posted:Mario 64 hasn't aged that well, but it's still really fun. I'm torn on whther I would want an HD remake of that or Sunshine. On one hand, there are way more fantastical worlds available in 64 that would look stunning with 3D World's art style. On the other hand, all that gorgeous HD Mario Sunshine water Honestly, I just want them to get N64 games on the Wii U VC so I can play it on my gamepad. HURRY THE gently caress UP NINTENDO!!! 
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Aug 13, 2014 21:14
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Austrian mook posted:Also sunshine was not designed to be 100% completed, the blue coins were made to create a meaningful collectable aside from the objectives, something it's managed better than any Mario since. Not sure I agree 100% with your police work there... "Yeah these levels of the game are tedious and bad, but that's cause you aren't supposed to play them duh."
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Aug 13, 2014 21:15
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Astro7x posted:I thought I would be one of those people. Then I started doing it and decided i didn't need to be a completionist for once in my life... Really I find 3D world to be a fun enough that I enjoy replaying the levels with the other characters, it's not like you have to get all the stars and get a golden flag pole with each and every character.
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Aug 13, 2014 21:16
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Yeah, it seems like a good practice to just turn on two additional Wiimotes, bubble up and try to do some speedruns.
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Aug 13, 2014 21:18
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Misandu posted:Really I find 3D world to be a fun enough that I enjoy replaying the levels with the other characters, it's not like you have to get all the stars and get a golden flag pole with each and every character. I tried replaying Super Mario 3D World with a different character but then I realized that it would overwrite my 100% Toad flag completion and that just ain't right. 
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Aug 13, 2014 21:18
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JordanKai posted:I tried replaying Super Mario 3D World with a different character but then I realized that it would overwrite my 100% Toad flag completion and that just ain't right. What set's the flag anyway? I noticed they changed sometime but I've never really looked into why.
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Aug 13, 2014 21:20
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JordanKai posted:I tried replaying Super Mario 3D World with a different character but then I realized that it would overwrite my 100% Toad flag completion and that just ain't right. Are you sure about this? I recall hitting flagpoles with different characters and the flag not changing at all
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Aug 13, 2014 21:22
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Zack_Gochuck posted:Yeah, I mean, it's not my favourite Mario game, but calling it a bad game is a bit of a stretch. You know what, though? PS1 outsold Nintendo 64 almost 3-1, so he wasn't the only one who felt like that, evidently. Yes, because Playstation Outselling N64 has everything to do with gamers hating Mario 64
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Aug 13, 2014 21:26
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So I ordered The Wonderful 101 (And CODBLOPS2 for cheap to get free shipping) last night... this crazy Platinum superhero thing had better be worth it. e; ^I think the PS1 outselling the N64 had more to do with the lack of games between tentpoles than gamers disliking Mario 64. Mario 64 holds up a hell of a lot better than about anything released on PS1 in 96. Chaltab fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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