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They advertise it that way, but they don't have separate boxes for the Orkanauts because if's the same sprues. It's dumb to box up the same product as two different things (just like the GK Land Raider etc, which I bet won't even have so much as a sheet of Grey Knight transfers inside of them.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Does anyone have a definitive list of the 40k Dataslates and Formations? Just the names, and what book they're in? Not Apocalypse ones... Is this the same crew that consistently denied you from bringing totally legal lists because they didn't like them? If so why is this 30k poo poo allowed?
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Indolent Bastard posted:Is this the same crew that consistently denied you from bringing totally legal lists because they didn't like them? If so why is this 30k poo poo allowed? It is the same group. I don't know why they're open to it. In other news, despite being kneecapped, I won the last campaign! First out of 12! Going from the bottom (winning less than 50% of my games) to the top (being undefeated in campaign play for 9 of 10 weeks) has given me a reputation in the group as a "hypercompetitive shitbag" - which I now wear with a badge of honor. We have a 7 week break until the next campaign, for which I am solely responsible for the rules. We're allowing formations in the place of the LOW slot, and I'm trying to get a definitive list of the 40k Approved Formations (the non-apocalypse ones). These are the ones we have right now: code:
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Aug 14, 2014 13:46
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Cypher isn't a formation, he's just a special character that any Non-DA Imperial army can take and Fallen Champions is Chaos Space Marine only.
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Aug 14, 2014 13:52
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Tuxedo Jack posted:It is the same group. I don't know why they're open to it. In other news, despite being kneecapped, I won the last campaign! First out of 12! Going from the bottom (winning less than 50% of my games) to the top (being undefeated in campaign play for 9 of 10 weeks) has given me a reputation in the group as a "hypercompetitive shitbag" - which I now wear with a badge of honor. The ones you list under Space Marines are CSM ones. May wanna fix that. SM ones are: Storm Wing, Reclusium Command Squad, Centurion Siegebreaker Cohort, and Tyrannic War Veterans. Sanctus Reach also has some Formations. IG: Steel Host, Rampart Detachment; Knights: Adamantine Lance; Orks: Gorkanaut Krushin' Krew, Mogrok's Bossboys.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Cypher isn't a formation, he's just a special character that any Non-DA Imperial army can take and Fallen Champions is Chaos Space Marine only. I will note that - this list was put together by our Tyranid player, and I'm using it as a basis as I add (hopefully) more. Slimnoid posted:The ones you list under Space Marines are CSM ones. May wanna fix that. Added, thanks! Tuxedo Jack fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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I'm currently working on a website that, among other things, will have a full Dataslate/Formation repository.
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There's an Eldar formation for that big box of Wraiths they released for christmas.
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Probably a dumb question, but are there any formations that are worth losing 'Objective Secured!' for? They seem like they could be fun and themey, buuuuuuuuut...
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WAR FOOT posted:Probably a dumb question, but are there any formations that are worth losing 'Objective Secured!' for? They seem like they could be fun and themey, buuuuuuuuut... You could always keep the bulk of your scoring models in a normal list, and have an allied detachment of [insert cool-looking formation here].
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Managed a Vassal while in the hospital, played a 2k themed Nurgle Destroyer Hive army which I can actually field IRL pretty soon. Anyway here it is, lots of loving fun to play. What is a good load out for a Murderpack, I was going to try it . I finally got my others in so playing RL now , magnetized some and made some others but Murder Pack Champion Power Scourge 4 H. Flamers Total 570 My only problem is mixing them together that they kind of suck because you fire at the same target. or go crazy and do Murder Pack Champion , Powerfists 4 Autocannons , 4 Missile Launchers That's 8 Twinlinked 7 Shots, 4 ST8 or Frag Missiles.
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Aug 14, 2014 15:23
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Lungboy posted:There's an Eldar formation for that big box of Wraiths they released for christmas. Eldar Ghost Warriors formation, a Wraithknight with 2 Wraithlords and 3 units of Wraithguard/blades
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Is the Tau formation just the best one? A lotta points sure, but thats the only drawback. 7th edition made the Helcult formation pretty pointless. Thundercracker fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Does anyone have a definitive list of the 40k Dataslates and Formations? Just the names, and what book they're in? Not Apocalypse ones... http://www.3plusplus.net/2014/08/formations-dataslates-and-alternate-lists/ Just for you. Thundercracker posted:Is the Tau formation just the best one? A lotta points sure, but thats the only drawback. The Tau formation is amazing. Broadsides that reroll essentially everything? Yes please. The only downside is that a Riptide without Markerlight or other support isn't nearly as good, but it's still throwing out pie plates, shooting down airplanes, wrecking tanks, and being super-tough to kill.
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Also the Helbrute formations; Mayhem Pack, Helcult and Helfist Murderpack. I'm having difficulties actually typing those down without death metal blasting in the background.
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I've never seen a drop pod in real life. Do the doors on them open and close? Would it be possible to wire it up so that music plays when the doors open (on a hinge)? The wiring I can take care of, just need to know if the model is physically built in a way I can do that. I really want to make a Dethklok Noise Marine squad.
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There's also the three C:SM formations from Strike Force Ultra: http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2014/06/03/bok-reviews-dataslate-strike-force-ultra/ Hammerfall Assault Force Skyspear Assault Wing Strike Force Ultra
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:I've never seen a drop pod in real life. Do the doors on them open and close? Would it be possible to wire it up so that music plays when the doors open (on a hinge)? The wiring I can take care of, just need to know if the model is physically built in a way I can do that. Many players build the model so the doors open and close. If you can fit the player inside it should work. You might consider a solar cell to power the player, so when you open the doors and expose it to light the music starts so you don't need a switch or other "trigger".
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:I've never seen a drop pod in real life. Do the doors on them open and close? Would it be possible to wire it up so that music plays when the doors open (on a hinge)? The wiring I can take care of, just need to know if the model is physically built in a way I can do that. The doors can swing open and closed if it's assembled correctly. Drop Pods are notorious for being one of the most frustrating models to assemble correctly, however. Godspeed. 
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Indolent Bastard posted:Many players build the model so the doors open and close. If you can fit the player inside it should work. You might consider a solar cell to power the player, so when you open the doors and expose it to light the music starts so you don't need a switch or other "trigger". Thanks, that's a good idea. The switch was going to be next hurdle. PierreTheMime posted:Drop Pods are notorious for being one of the most frustrating models to assemble correctly, however. Godspeed. Go figure. I remember someone at my LGS asking for help with assembly with his Monolith because he felt like he needed 3 hands (this was back when they were still 3rd, no idea if the kit is different now).
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I'm pretty sure CSM don't get drop pods.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:I'm pretty sure CSM don't get drop pods. You are correct. They have some Forgeworld options, but otherwise they have no way to drop onto the table outside of Deep Strike.
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Haha drat, my hopes and dreams washed away in an instant.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:It is the same group. I don't know why they're open to it. In other news, despite being kneecapped, I won the last campaign! First out of 12! Going from the bottom (winning less than 50% of my games) to the top (being undefeated in campaign play for 9 of 10 weeks) has given me a reputation in the group as a "hypercompetitive shitbag" - which I now wear with a badge of honor. Black Library has a list of all of the dataslates, at least.
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Model a rhino up to have a bunch of speakers or whatever on it, put the player inside. Play when they disembark.
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I suddenly have a burning need to rig up a Land Raider to play "X Gonna Give It to Ya" when the hatch opens and the Assault Terminators file out...
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OB_Juan posted:Model a rhino up to have a bunch of speakers or whatever on it, put the player inside. Play when they disembark. I really wanted to imitate the very first episode of Metalocalypse where they are dropped from the sky their drop pod opens up to be their stage. On a serious note, though, I've seen people put lights and stuff in Rhinos and it always looks really good and easy. As for Chaos Drop Pods, didn't they have them in Dawn of War? 
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AbusePuppy posted:http://www.3plusplus.net/2014/08/formations-dataslates-and-alternate-lists/ Amazing, thank you!
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:As for Chaos Drop Pods, didn't they have them in Dawn of War? They didn't, but you could them make them invisible and give them like 4 special weapons, including heavy bolters and plasma guns 
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:I really wanted to imitate the very first episode of Metalocalypse where they are dropped from the sky their drop pod opens up to be their stage. On a serious note, though, I've seen people put lights and stuff in Rhinos and it always looks really good and easy. Chaos got forgeworld's Dreadclaw, which at least used to have an outright chaosified version but isn't sold any more near as I can tell, and I can't speak for any current rules to use it. It's a shame because it was far more dethklok than the normal drop pod in that iirc it could stand back up and eat people.
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The marine Storm Wing dataslate is pretty good. Two Stormtalons escorting a Stormraven (roll reserves for the 'raven and all three arrive at once). And as long as one 'talon is alive the 'raven gains Strafing Run.
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:I really wanted to imitate the very first episode of Metalocalypse where they are dropped from the sky their drop pod opens up to be their stage. On a serious note, though, I've seen people put lights and stuff in Rhinos and it always looks really good and easy. there's the dreadhclaw assault pods from forgeworld... they're so much more brutal... though I think you'd have to do some heavy conversion work to make them open up
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PantsOptional posted:I suddenly have a burning need to rig up a Land Raider to play "X Gonna Give It to Ya" when the hatch opens and the Assault Terminators file out... Bonus points if you airbrush hench Rick onto the side.
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Throb Robinson posted:Been long absent updating on my army. Take a gander at those rivets and the rust streaks below. Owns.
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Hamshot posted:and I can't speak for any current rules to use it. It's a shame because it was far more dethklok than the normal drop pod in that iirc it could stand back up and eat people. The Dreadclaw is an absolute mess of nonsensical rules at this point. Basically, it is a flyer that is forced to Deep Strike onto the table (and presumably doesn't crash even though by the rules it should) and that also has the Assault Vehicle rule, so in the following turn you can go into Hover mode and then disembark some guys and go for punches. Except that, unlike the loyalist one, it can be shot down before delivering its cargo (enjoy those S10 AP2 hits!), it doesn't automatically arrive on the first turn, and isn't a dedicated transport. So basically it's like a Drop Pod in the same way that a Stormraven is like a Drop Pod. Oh, and it's 85 loving points, too. loving Dreadclaws.
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I really, really like the idea of a transport that dumps out a bunch of your dudes then roves around abducting enemy dudes.
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AbusePuppy posted:The Dreadclaw is an absolute mess of nonsensical rules at this point. Basically, it is a flyer that is forced to Deep Strike onto the table (and presumably doesn't crash even though by the rules it should) and that also has the Assault Vehicle rule, so in the following turn you can go into Hover mode and then disembark some guys and go for punches. Except that, unlike the loyalist one, it can be shot down before delivering its cargo (enjoy those S10 AP2 hits!), it doesn't automatically arrive on the first turn, and isn't a dedicated transport. 30k dreadclaws, with their fixed rules, are pretty good. They are AV12 fliers that automatically come in on turn 1 anywhere on the table and are counted as skimmers. Next turn fly it 12" over some cover and assault whatever you like. Or slam it into flier mode, fly it somewhere else, and assault turn 3. For 100 points you basically have a guaranteed charge turn 2 or 3 anywhere on the board. AV12, 4+ jink, 6s to hit, and your guys aren't standing around with thumbs in their asses when it comes into play. Its like a ghetto caestus and perfect for assault troops. I don't understand why they can't update the CSM version to function like this 
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I can't find my Black Legion codex I thinkn it is disappeared, could someoene tell me what that artifact that is a sunburst or whatever is and whether it's only for Tzeentch? It adds ML4 but you can't do anything with that extra level but cast some spell. Thanks a bunch.
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Post 9-11 User posted:Take a gander at those rivets and the rust streaks below. My whole army theme is "Ultramarines slogging in thru the poo poo" Mostly cause I was always keen on Ultras being like the WW2 Joe of Space marine and not so much the Glorious Standard of what a Space marine should be the fluff says.    
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Hollismason posted:I can't find my Black Legion codex I thinkn it is disappeared, could someoene tell me what that artifact that is a sunburst or whatever is and whether it's only for Tzeentch? I'm going to assume you didn't 'lose' it but it's the Last Memory of Yuranthos and you just need to be a psyker.
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