Those On My Left posted:I... I find this one hard. Yilmaz doesn't really seem particularly nasty to me. High school kids are ridiculous, and kids from different backgrounds often are ridiculous in different ways. Yilmaz perfectly reflects some of my high school experiences. Basically nothing makes me feel warm about that period of my life, but Yilmaz kinda does. It reminds me how silly and funny some of it was. Yeah, I really don't get anything nasty from it. It's the Youtube version of sitting around remembering the weird kids you went to school with. I went to school with a kid like Yilmaz and I taught one during my teaching placements. That's what keeps me thinking of it in a positive light. FJ isn't saying that Yilmaz was weird and we should laugh at him and mock him, it's that Yilmaz is weird but he was also a bright point and you laugh at the things he did because they are pleasant memories from a time where a lot of kids are confused and scared. It's like, the first high school I went to, there was a kid with Down syndrome. Whenever I meet up from the people I keep in contact from that school, everyone always laughs and reminisces about the weird stuff he did like how, in the school play, he decided to improvise his lines with an off-the-cuff dance number during one of the most poignant scenes in the performance. And, sure, it might seem like we're mocking him for his disability, but his disability is what made him such a bright spot. I see Yilmaz in the same vein. You remember the good with the bad but you're not mocking.
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Splode posted:yeah I empty quoted muyb and then realised that I had to quickly edit in an actual reply. Considering the entire argument about that israel-related cartoon was in GBS and we usually talk poo poo in here, it's getting confusing. you loving what
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Milky Moor posted:Yeah, I really don't get anything nasty from it. It's the Youtube version of sitting around remembering the weird kids you went to school with. I went to school with a kid like Yilmaz and I taught one during my teaching placements. That's what keeps me thinking of it in a positive light. FJ isn't saying that Yilmaz was weird and we should laugh at him and mock him, it's that Yilmaz is weird but he was also a bright point and you laugh at the things he did because they are pleasant memories from a time where a lot of kids are confused and scared. I didn't see Yilmaz as racist, just a depicition of a stupid person at high school who also happened to be Turkish. He actually reminds me a lot of a guy at my high school who also just happened to be Turkish too, but his race wasn't the issue, just the fact he was a complete idiot. I mean, is friendlyjordies sexist because he dresses up and pretends to be a stuck up middle class woman?
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Yilmaz is problematic. The fact that the simple act of reminiscing about highschool can have unintended racially derogative elements means something needs to be examined. Is his race really irrelevant? I'd say if you have to ask, it's probably not.
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Whether it's an element of the joke or not, your comedy shouldn't hit down at people less privileged than you are. It's poor form.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 00:11 |
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Who the gently caress is this Yilmaz person?
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John Hewson on Hockey's (less than luminous) performance as treasurer. Talking about just how easy it is in politics to gaffe, he gives his own example:quote:One of my classics was to suggest that "you can always tell the rented house on the street", made towards the end of a very long speech to the Housing Industry Association in 1992. The line, originally written by my then press secretary, Tony Abbott, was moved in and out of the speech by various advisers before being finally reinstated and was only noticed by one journalist at the time. But that was enough. The media bushfire was ignited. I was very soon flat out back-pedalling.
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You Am I posted:Who the gently caress is this Yilmaz person? The chaff friendlyjordies makes between the wheat.
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You Am I posted:Who the gently caress is this Yilmaz person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR5b7FS1nrs
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xutech posted:Well, this is awkward. It is awkward indeed, given he now lives in a 6 bedroom house in the Norfolk countryside and not in the vibrant multicultural communities resulting from his policies.
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Orkin Mang posted:John Hewson on Hockey's (less than luminous) performance as treasurer. Talking about just how easy it is in politics to gaffe, he gives his own example: Counterpoint from an actual MP quote:Joe Hockey is doing an 'inspirational' job as treasurer and has long been standing up for low-income earners, senior coalition MP Christopher Pyne says.
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Endman posted:Whether it's an element of the joke or not, your comedy shouldn't hit down at people less privileged than you are. It's poor form. This is a pretty big element of why conservatives aren't funny.
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Gough Suppressant posted:This is a pretty big element of why conservatives aren't funny. That and the patrician bitterness they mistake in their comedy for insightful mocking.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 00:38 |
quote:Let's look at some of Lilley's other stuff to see if claims of his work being racist are unfou- Quarter of a million Qlders see this on their drive to work up the pacific motorway everyday. Inbound at Greenslopes there's a 200m stretch of noise barrier painted with 'black people' of uncertain ethnicity. Have a look in street view. https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-27.516365,153.046811,3a,75y,215.69h,84.27t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPLNZpGdHqIXQjKwQ8B8btQ!2e0 I dont know who painted it. But it looks commissioned.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 00:39 |
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One of my Schoolyard Yilmaz's tried to convince us he was riding a motorised scooter down the road and the police saw him. They are technically illegal, and he tried to convince us the cops were shooting at him to try and stop him. He also used to come and sit next to you on a bench in that covert-ops spy style where they are talking to you but making it look like they arent talking to you, trying to sell burnt DVDs of new release movies.
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Man my high school was boring, we didn't have anyone like that in my grade There was an autistic kid a year younger who would sometimes do funny things but that was it.
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Orkin Mang posted:That and the patrician bitterness they mistake in their comedy for insightful mocking. Entirely true, but the sarcastic and pedantic neuroticism involved in leftist political comedy ain't much better.
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Lid posted:Counterpoint from an actual MP I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, is anyone else seeing this? If Pynes looking to Hockey for inspiration then they're all walking around with blindfolds on. How do so many people get it so monumentally wrong, just making up facts and thinking millions of people with 5 seconds can fact check them won't go ahead and do that.
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You Am I posted:Who the gently caress is this Yilmaz person? The King of Kings.
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:Entirely true, but the sarcastic and pedantic neuroticism involved in leftist political comedy ain't much better. mlyp
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:Entirely true, but the sarcastic and pedantic neuroticism involved in leftist political comedy ain't much better. True as well.
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HookShot posted:Man my high school was boring, we didn't have anyone like that in my grade My high school was full of racial tension: Lebanese kids vs Vietnamese kids vs Anglo kids. It all came to a head in year 10 when a few after-school scuffles escalated into a Vietnamese crime gang from Cabramatta (5T for anyone who remembers) turning up at school and going after a Lebanese kid with a machete
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5T were crazy big into penile dermal implants too.
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Konomex posted:I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, is anyone else seeing this? If Pynes looking to Hockey for inspiration then they're all walking around with blindfolds on. How do so many people get it so monumentally wrong, just making up facts and thinking millions of people with 5 seconds can fact check them won't go ahead and do that. Simple egotism and the safety of being rich and powerful. The way Pyne talks you'd think they were saving the universe. There's a strong push in the Murdoch Ltd to ditch Hockey now. Please let them replace Hockey with Pyne as Treasurer just for a month so we can destroy him too.
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/treasurer...815-104c7e.html Not a good week for Hockey.
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I'm genuinely surprised this hasn't been commented on yet: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/scott-morrison-appear-before-inquiry-children-immigration-detention?CMP=soc_567 In all likelihood it will be shut down by on water matters or whatever the gently caress excuse he likes to give but still... Edit: to add the story is about Scott Morrison to appear before an inquiry into children in immigration detention and allegations of abuse.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:
Wonder if they realise that the Earth actually rotates and therefore "the space above Australia" is actually a significant swath of the universe. ...probably.
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Wonder if the realise Earth's surface is curved and hence that space would be similar to a cone.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 01:53 |
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A cone that rapidly moves across gigantic sections of space, meaning that if every country had this constitution then we'd be flipping nationality amongst the stars every quarter-second. e; I feel as if news.com.au hasn't realised that clickhole is a satire of sites like clickhole and they've instead used it as an instruction manual. Murodese fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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Captain Pissweak posted:Wonder if the realise Earth's surface is curved and hence that space would be similar to a cone. I don't know about that, but I know some mad cones were involved in the making of those policies.
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I haven't read that crazy-rear end constitution, but did they seriously forget to claim ownership of the soil/minerals etc underneath territorial Australia?
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webmeister posted:I haven't read that crazy-rear end constitution, but did they seriously forget to claim ownership of the soil/minerals etc underneath territorial Australia? I've not read all of it, but yeah, it looks like they did. quote:[During Wartime]
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Konomex posted:I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, is anyone else seeing this? If Pynes looking to Hockey for inspiration then they're all walking around with blindfolds on. How do so many people get it so monumentally wrong, just making up facts and thinking millions of people with 5 seconds can fact check them won't go ahead and do that. Because most are disinterested. Huge swarths of the population dont care about politics, at all. And will not do that 5 second fact check.
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Konomex posted:I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, is anyone else seeing this? If Pynes looking to Hockey for inspiration then they're all walking around with blindfolds on. How do so many people get it so monumentally wrong, just making up facts and thinking millions of people with 5 seconds can fact check them won't go ahead and do that.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:War Stuff Why....?
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 03:09 |
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Brainfart time. What if News Limited want the ABC privatised so they can buy it?
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Murodese posted:e; I feel as if news.com.au hasn't realised that clickhole is a satire of sites like clickhole and they've instead used it as an instruction manual. Even SMH are doing that clickbait headline poo poo these days. They had a story about Robin Williams's daughter getting trolled on twitter and the summary was something like "I'M SHAKING RIGHT NOW, I JUST CAN'T: The late comedian's daughter received an outpouring of support on social media, along with several vicious trolls. You won't believe what they said to her."
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Ragingsheep posted:Why....? Gotta be prepared for the imminent Indonesian invasion mate Only thing I can think of is something about stopping foreign (ie Chinese) investors from holding large swathes of Australian cash when (in their crazy minds) the Chinese are who we'd probably be fighting.
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Speaking of banning bottled water, here's a film made by a Sydney boy about a town in America that tried it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCve9xVj_yg It's screening next Tuesday on George st as part of a fundraiser for a good cause so thought I'd post it here. Ian Winthorpe III posted:It is awkward indeed, given he now lives in a 6 bedroom house in the Norfolk countryside and not in the vibrant multicultural communities resulting from his policies. Old person moves to the country, awkward indeed.
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Lid posted:Counterpoint from an actual MP They haven't quite got it through their heads that you can't just say any old poo poo you like when you're in government and actually doing things that are completely in contradiction to what you're saying.
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