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Golden Goat posted:"If you don't monetize something that is important and you monetize a bunch of stuff that's not important, you are kinda rewarding yourself to not actually say anything" Fake talk: I think he's trying to say you need to monetarily reward yourself for saying good/meaningful things. Real talk: He's doing everything he can to justify it and keep the ads up.
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I guess he thinks that by not monetising "important" things, he is removing the incentive to make those things at all, so there won't be as many important things. That's all I can think, but that's some incredibly warped logic and also really stupid.
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Aug 15, 2014 18:10
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slowbeef posted:Fake talk: I think he's trying to say you need to monetarily reward yourself for saying good/meaningful things. If he was moderately intelligent he'd write it off by saying "Oh, I donated last month's ad revenue to a Parkinson's Disease research group." But since he's a YouTube SuperStar he'd probably make 2 or 3 videos bragging about how awesome he was for doing it to make the money back.
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Aug 15, 2014 18:11
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Some YouTube superstar should use this as a springboard for going full Senator Armstrong on YouTube ads. But in a good way. "I'm using the business of YouTube ads... To end YouTube ads as a business!" edit: "I'll rid these channels of pointless monetization, Jack."
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Aug 15, 2014 18:14
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TARDISman posted:Pretty loving dumb obviously, since he operates under the assumption that everything should be monetized, as long as it's used for "good stuff." Also HA, he links the hot Asian girl video right after he says "Stuff you really believe in." I certainly believe in boobies.
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Aug 15, 2014 18:42
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That excuse is a mess. So he cries over a stars death (and has most likely never met Robin before in his life) and therefore he's entitled to monetize it. Can he remove the ads if the video's posted already? Seems like the easiest way to get out of this would be to say "Sorry flipping off the ads was the last thing on my mind when posting this" and take the ads off.
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Aug 15, 2014 18:45
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slowbeef posted:Don't worry, he made a video explaining why he did it. Keywords: "Do good stuff, Robin Williams, Toby turner, Tobuscus, I love you, Rip Robin Williams"
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Aug 15, 2014 18:46
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Keywords: "Do good stuff, Robin Williams, Toby turner, Tobuscus, I love you, Rip Robin Williams" Will doing good stuff make me look like Tobuscus? Cause if so, I'm going to stop.
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Aug 15, 2014 18:47
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You're all talking about him and he's making money on the stupid drama. I don't think he's dumb at all.
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Aug 15, 2014 18:49
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Golden Goat posted:Can he remove the ads if the video's posted already? Yeah. Sometimes there's weird things with partnerships and re-enabling ads, but you can take them off after the fact. See: Machinima partners removing midrolls after Machinima loaded them up. Jordan7hm posted:You're all talking about him and he's making money on the stupid drama. I don't think he's dumb at all. I don't think the negative PR is worth it. He's making bank regardless; this really can only hurt him if you're talking about it from a financial standpoint. Maybe some short-term gain, but it's not enough for the possible long-term loss and I don't know that this nets him new followers. Maybe it does. I don't think he's stupid like "how does he put on his shoes in the morning???" but I think if he'd done this without the ads, he'd get the same positive effect.
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Aug 15, 2014 18:54
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I can't watch the "Do Good Stuff" video since I'm at work, but that thumbnail tells me all I need to know.
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Jordan7hm posted:You're all talking about him and he's making money on the stupid drama. I don't think he's dumb at all. People who post poo poo like this make me frustrated. On the one hand, yes, you're right, people are now talking about Toe Buscemi or whatever and clicking on the dumb video, but on the other hand, that is not an excuse to go "heh guess HE'S the clever one  " because he's not, he's still an idiot and a dick. Just a lucrative idiot and dick.
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Aug 15, 2014 19:03
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And that's how you get to share a stage with Aisha Tyler.
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Guys, I think you're missing the point. This is indeed how you mourn over dead celebrities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szYRm2SLGqI
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General Ironicus posted:And that's how you get to share a stage with Aisha Tyler. I think these videos would be vastly improved by Aisha Tyler showing up out of nowhere to make fun of him.
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CJacobs posted:People who post poo poo like this make me frustrated. On the one hand, yes, you're right, people are now talking about Toe Buscemi or whatever and clicking on the dumb video, but on the other hand, that is not an excuse to go "heh guess HE'S the clever one It also assumes that people actually watched his video(s). I didn't
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slowbeef posted:I don't think the negative PR is worth it. He's making bank regardless; this really can only hurt him if you're talking about it from a financial standpoint. Maybe some short-term gain, but it's not enough for the possible long-term loss and I don't know that this nets him new followers. Maybe it does. Do you really think there's long term loss here? I don't think it nets him new followers, but I doubt it loses him any either. It's just another way to get people talking about him, which is absolutely a positive thing for him. The content of that conversation doesn't really matter that much.
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Psychedelic Eyeball posted:Guys, I think you're missing the point. This is indeed how you mourn over dead celebrities. That pain elemental is just adorable.
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Aug 15, 2014 19:11
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Now, I know this is probably a bit "uncouth" in light of recent tragedies... but I have to point out: when me and my guys did an LP of The Golden Compass, we mentioned Roger Ebert, who would pass less than a week after recording. Recently, we did a stream of Sega games and mentioned Robin Williams, who, again, passed in a very short amount of time after we recorded. If you want to give me money to use this Satanic Magic we possess, feel free to drop me a line.
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Aug 15, 2014 19:20
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judge reinhold posted:Now, I know this is probably a bit "uncouth" in light of recent tragedies... but I have to point out: when me and my guys did an LP of The Golden Compass, we mentioned Roger Ebert, who would pass less than a week after recording. Recently, we did a stream of Sega games and mentioned Robin Williams, who, again, passed in a very short amount of time after we recorded. If you want to give me money to use this Satanic Magic we possess, feel free to drop me a line. You ever make fun of PewDiePie in your stuff?
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Aug 15, 2014 19:20
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Jordan7hm posted:Do you really think there's long term loss here? Honestly, yeah. If he's not trying to ride a news trend (hence tagging it "robin williams" four times), and he's not getting new followers out of it, I'd argue he'd get the same financial effect from four or so other less controversial vlogs. I think long-term, this only hurts his image. But his fans love him so much, realistically, it'll probably have no effect outside of a view bump that he could've gotten anyway with filler content. So yeah. I still think it's a bad move and I won't be doing any 20-second monetized Ferguson videos anytime soon.
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On the opposite end of the monetization spectrum, I've been bitched out for running ads and "making money" on dumb videos on my garbage video channel even though I have ads and monetization off in every setting I can manage to find in Youtube's mangled interface. If there's ads on a video, they sure as hell aren't mine, but I'm still getting crap for it. Now why does Toby get special treatment, with an answer that isn't "his audience is insane"?
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I know a lot of people are upset over Robin William's death. He was a great comedian and actor, and I have a lot of fond childhood memories of him. Everyone has their own way of dealing with the news. A shame that Toby decided that his way of dealing with it is to make a lovely 19 second video of him trying to convince you that, yes, he is sad. I'm sure he's not so sad now, since he already has almost a million views on this piece of poo poo, which I'm assuming has paid him quite a bit. Unfortunately, I don't think the doubt of those who watch this video will set his channel on fire. He already has a huge, established fanbase that will continue to watch his stuff, unless he does something extremely bad. Keeping ads on a video (even really lovely ones that capitalize on someone's death) is something people will likely forget about in a week or so.
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judge reinhold posted:Now, I know this is probably a bit "uncouth" in light of recent tragedies... but I have to point out: when me and my guys did an LP of The Golden Compass, we mentioned Roger Ebert, who would pass less than a week after recording. Recently, we did a stream of Sega games and mentioned Robin Williams, who, again, passed in a very short amount of time after we recorded. If you want to give me money to use this Satanic Magic we possess, feel free to drop me a line. I'll give you a steam trading card if you kill gaben. Cheez posted:On the opposite end of the monetization spectrum, I've been bitched out for running ads and "making money" on dumb videos on my garbage video channel even though I have ads and monetization off in every setting I can manage to find in Youtube's mangled interface. If there's ads on a video, they sure as hell aren't mine, but I'm still getting crap for it. Now why does Toby get special treatment, with an answer that isn't "his audience is insane"? His audience is large and insane.
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MooCowlian posted:I'll give you a steam trading card if you kill gaben. Either way, it was a jack move to make that video.
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Well this is cool. There's now an argument in the comment section about whether Robin Williams dying is worse than the poo poo happening in Gaza, and the genocide in Iraq. THE PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE BROUGHT UP BY TOBY TURNER'S 19 SECOND VIDEO TOTALLY JUSTIFIES AD REVENUE, YO.
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Color Printer posted:I think these videos would be vastly improved by Aisha Tyler showing up out of nowhere to make fun of him. She should slip it in as a Scene From A Hat on the next season of Whose Line. "Worst way to pay tribute to a deceased celebrity"
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Maybe Valkhorn could get more views if he made a video of him fake crying about Robin Williams. Maybe get up to 50 views. Amirite or what?? Seriously though, that's a really despicable thing to do. I can't watch the videos while I'm at work, but I'll take a look (with ad block on) when I get home and post if I have anything to contribute.
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Youtube celebrities are for the most part terrible. I'd call then sellouts but I'm not sure if that qualifies if they never were any good to begin with.  Fake edit: I was at a con a few weeks ago and Arrowhead was there demoing a few games. Me and this other guy decided to check out this co-op game called Helldivers (which was really awesome). There was a kid there who can't have been more than 13 years old playing with us and the way he talked and was mimicking bad LPers so hard and I find that the "culture", or whatever the hell you want to call it, has such a big impact on people really weird.
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gatz posted:Maybe Valkhorn could get more views if he made a video of him fake crying about Robin Williams. Maybe get up to 50 views. Amirite or what?? Be prepared to receive a stern PM from Valkhorn now
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Aug 15, 2014 23:21
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What does this Platinum user stuff mean?
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Aug 15, 2014 23:43
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It is a person who has purchased the platinum forums upgrade for access to PMs and broken search and possibly other things.
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RareAcumen posted:What does this Platinum user stuff mean?
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Aug 15, 2014 23:49
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Great, now everybody knows I'm a cheapass.
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FactsAreUseless posted:We also get some other perks like probation protections, access to the private servers when SA is down for maintenance, and the monthly e-newsletter.  The post police are always trying to keep a poster down.
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I wasn't gonna mention those. It seemed mean to be lording over the poors so much.
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Cheez posted:Great, now everybody knows I'm a cheapass. I thought the lack of an Avatar was telling enough.
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RareAcumen posted:What does this Platinum user stuff mean? e: nevermind Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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Aug 16, 2014 01:21
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How long until youtube celebrities start going out in balls of flame like "real" celebrities do?
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SlothfulCobra posted:How long until youtube celebrities start going out in balls of flame like "real" celebrities do? PewDiePie getting arrested for DUI and going into rehab would be just kinda funny.
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