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SpiderHyphenMan posted:We don't need to spoiler speculation, y'all. The lion turtle told Aang that losing the battle of wills while trying to energybend would be really bad for Aang, right? Like, "your soul gets totally hosed up" bad?
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:We don't need to spoiler speculation, y'all. Or he's like, "Oh well! and kicks the poo poo out of her without bending. He WAS the leader of the Red Lotus BEFORE he was an airbender.
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Aug 15, 2014 23:19
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Ming Hua probably wouldn't have been able to bloodbend in prison because, IIRC, it has always been shone to use very heavy hand and finger movements to control the blood. Maybe one of the Season 1 bloodbenders didn't need to but if so I can't remember it.
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Aug 15, 2014 23:30
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Man, that was a great episode. Love Zuko. Want Toph now. LOK really does live up to ATLA. Including being kinda bad for the first 20 or so episodes.
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Aug 15, 2014 23:33
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dj_clawson posted:Or he's like, "Oh well! and kicks the poo poo out of her without bending. He WAS the leader of the Red Lotus BEFORE he was an airbender. Ozai seemed completely drained after Aang took his bending, I doubt Zaheer could put up much of a fight against a bender and martial artist as strong as Korra in that condition.
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Aug 15, 2014 23:41
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The one thing that felt a bit "bad" to me here -- the one single thing in midst of a completely awesome episode -- is that there was whole bit about them not being able to contact the Northern Air Temple and it just turned out the reason was that...welp, they just weren't paying attention to calls for some reason. Like, the gently caress were you all doing the whole day? Where did all your 
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Aug 15, 2014 23:42
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I will be disappointed if that cliffhanger gets resolved next week with a reveal that they really did kill Tenzin, if only because we haven't seen him do anything cool successfully yet.
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Aug 15, 2014 23:58
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Bongo Bill posted:I will be disappointed if that cliffhanger gets resolved next week with a reveal that they really did kill Tenzin, if only because we haven't seen him do anything cool successfully yet. I am pretty satisfied that they made it abundantly clear he could handle up to 3 of the top benders in the world solo.
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Aug 16, 2014 00:05
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computer parts posted:Bumi was actually very clever this fight because instead of trying to depend on air bending he just grabs the dude and tries to bite his ear off. Really even with the biting aside, he's an experienced combatant, in a world where even if you're a non-bender you've fought benders before. Even if he's new at being an airbender, is it any wonder that it was his siblings that Tenzin asked to cover the escape of the rest?
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Aug 16, 2014 00:50
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Would lavabending really be of much use to Bolin? It's an insanely lethal form of bending heavy on the collateral damage, completely inappropriate for the team's most happy-go-lucky member.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:01
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What?? They're not going to kill off Tenzin. They panned away because he was being beaten/tortured into submission.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:15
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That was a drat good episode
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Aug 16, 2014 01:16
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Huh actually, it's kinda nice to see the Northern Air Temple in such a pristine state (before the Red Lotus came along at least). The Mechanist had done a shitton of damage to the structures to install his crap, so it's nice to see that poo poo had (apparently) been torn out and the original structures restored.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:23
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Retro Ghost posted:What?? They're not going to kill off Tenzin. They panned away because he was being beaten/tortured into submission. The mentor always dies so the protege can come into his own. Tenzin biting it puts the onus of rebuilding the air nation on Korra (or Zaheer) and sets up a conflict where she must choose between her avatorial duties and her perceived duty to Tenzin/Aang.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:24
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On the other hand, it's a cliffhanger, and we all know how cliffhangers work. Really, the question is whether they didn't show it because it did happen, or they didn't show it because they only want us to think it was about to happen.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:26
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Irish Joe posted:The mentor always dies so the protege can come into his own. Iroh didn't.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:27
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thexerox123 posted:Iroh didn't. Iroh hosed off for an entire season. He only came back at the last second to tell Zuko 'atta boy.'
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Aug 16, 2014 01:29
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Irish Joe posted:Iroh hosed off for an entire season. He only came back at the last second to tell Zuko 'atta boy.' And to rally the White Lotus to take Ba Sing Se back like a badass. loving off for an entire season isn't dying, though. You could even compare that to Korra not hanging around with Tenzin much this season, more than you could compare it to a death.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:30
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Have they ever spoken about their original plan with Iron if Mako hadn't passed away?
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Aug 16, 2014 01:33
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PriorMarcus posted:Have they ever spoken about their original plan with Iron if Mako hadn't passed away? Have Toph bend it?
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Retro Ghost posted:What?? They're not going to kill off Tenzin. They panned away because he was being beaten/tortured into submission. Exactly this.
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PriorMarcus posted:Have they ever spoken about their original plan with Iron if Mako hadn't passed away? I'd imagine it'd probably be roughly the same as it ended up. By keeping his appearances to a minimum, they had something that would force Zuko to grow and become his own man without having Iroh to lean on as a crutch throughout it all. Having Iroh drill "you done hosed up" into his skull would be one thing; having Zuko come to realize it (mostly) on his own made his arc more compelling, in my opinion.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:45
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Regalingualius posted:I'd imagine it'd probably be roughly the same as it ended up. By keeping his appearances to a minimum, they had something that would force Zuko to grow and become his own man without having Iroh to lean on as a crutch throughout it all. I figured maybe he would break out earlier and we would see him recruit some White Lotus people or even have some scenes of him talking to Ozai while captive. Keeping him and Zuko apart was definitely for the best, but it would've been interesting if they had utilized him in some other way.
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Aug 16, 2014 01:48
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The AV Club reviewer is calling this the best season of the entire Avatar franchise. Maybe ATLA isn't as fresh in my mind, but I'm inclined to agree. I was never as excited in that series as I am for this season. Finale, please don't be a huge letdown!
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Aug 16, 2014 02:33
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The season finale needs to land it really well, i'm not sure if i'm ready to say it's THE best Avatar has been, but at the very least it's on par with Book 2 of ATLA, which was the best book.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:16
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Even ATLA Book 2 gave us The Great Divide.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:23
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Rincewind posted:Even ATLA Book 2 gave us The Great Divide. No it didn't, that was Book 1.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:25
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thexerox123 posted:No it didn't, that was Book 1. Avatar Day then.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:34
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Also The Swamp. blruuheghhg I will hate The Swamp for as long as I breathe.
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Superstring posted:Avatar Day then. What! That's a great episode. It has Kyoshi backstory, Sokka being a detective, this guy:  (The Swamp, however... while I don't personally mind it, I'm not going to try to argue that it's a good episode.) thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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thexerox123 posted:What! That's a great episode. It has Kyoshi backstory, Sokka being a detective, this guy: Yes, those were pretty good parts. The village of the week in that ep was annoying as hell though. BrianWilly posted:Also The Swamp. I liked The Swamp.  In other notes, lots of people have brought up how cool it was to see Tenzin and Zaheer finally fight it out. What's interesting is that despite it being the first Airbender vs. Airbender fight ever shown, Tenzin and Zaheer have pretty different bending styles. Zaheer uses a lot of... almost capoeira style kicks where he's kicking with both legs while supporting himself with one or both arms. It's definitely different than how we've seen Aang or Tenzin move, whick makes sense. All the Red Lotus have pretty neat touches to their bending styles that set them apart from other benders actually. Ghazan uses a ton of elbow strikes in his movements and Ming Hua swings around like a Spider-Man.
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Superstring posted:
Yeah, actually it's really cool! I had always wondered if they'd introduce some kind of Muay Thai-like bender and we got something like that with Ghazan. It actually kind of makes a ton of sense -- Muay Thai is a very strong, "hard" style of fighting, practical, no-frills and quite lethal. Yet it's fast and flexible, so lava makes complete sense.
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So, did the Airbenders get away at the end? It seemed like the bison all got scared off, leaving them stranded except for Kai.
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I figured the airbenders were still stranded, because the bison got spooked.
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I'm willing to bet Gazhan (how do you spell it?) learned elemental state changing from Ming-hua, just like Iroh I learned lightning redirection by emulating waterbenders. Waterbending best bending.
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I know the circumstances to set it up would have to be contrived as all hell. But a part of me does wish that the climax of the next season, which may very well be the last we see of the Avatar universe ever, were a fight between Korra against another Avatar-esque multi-element bender. That would be totes sick.
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Bongo Bill posted:On the other hand, it's a cliffhanger, and we all know how cliffhangers work. Really, the question is whether they didn't show it because it did happen, or they didn't show it because they only want us to think it was about to happen. We still haven't seen the Zaheer/Tenzen philosocombat scene, so I honestly doubt he's dead.
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Superstring posted:I know the circumstances to set it up would have to be contrived as all hell. But a part of me does wish that the climax of the next season, which may very well be the last we see of the Avatar universe ever, were a fight between Korra against another Avatar-esque multi-element bender. That would be totes sick. Korra fights all four lion turtles. Or can a spirit become a multielement bender?
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TheModernAmerican posted:We still haven't seen the Zaheer/Tenzen philosocombat scene, so I honestly doubt he's dead.
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What a fantastic episode. Tenzin's fate is up in the air, but I'm hoping he's going to be held as a bargaining chip. Thinking about the lavabending etc the show has given us, I can't help but feel the 'advanced' techniques need some adjustment. Water -> Ice Air -> Lightning Earth -> Metalbending Fire -> Lavabending Of course the airbender would have to manipulate some clouds to generate the lightning.
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