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The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

ReindeerF posted:

Heh.

Even in an immigration context, it's probably more applicable in places like where you came up, but if you can't find a Spanish speaking business to sell you phone cards in South Texas then you're seriously doing something wrong. The flag is definitely marketing, I agree, I just personally find it petty. If I had an American restaurant in Bangkok I would never fly a US flag out front. You're actually in another country, it's a bit petty to wave your flag in their face. I'm not hugely nationalistic, but one of the key characteristics of not being an rear end in a top hat is empathy - and imagine how it looks to the people here when you wave your flag in their face.
Okay, that does make it like twice as funny. Though, of course, they're mostly just trying to stop the Swedes from taking over I'm sure, heh.

Hey, hey now. We had a restaurant AND a grocery store!

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
You probably called it a BODEGA. You loving COMMUNISTS.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

R. Mute posted:


there's only one flag, comrades, and it is red.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Its not the flags you fly which matter, its the flag you fly highest which matters most. #flagcode4life

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

R. Mute posted:

something similar was introduced here last year as well. they're called GAS fines. they're rly stupid and people hate them. some examples:

in antwerp, a arthouse for children and teens got a GAS fine for protesting against GAS fines. in another incident, someone with a mental disability was fined for playing a flute on the street.
in hasselt, nobody but sinterklaas, santa and the easter bunny can wear masks in the street - punishable by GAS fines.
five residents of verviers got a gas fine for criticising local police in the online comment section of a newspaper
in merchtem, children can't play football while pigeon racers are playing with their pigeons. in hamme and waasmunster, you can't dry your laundry outside, wave flags or 'hit objects' when the pigeons are out.
if you stop sliding when you're halfway down a waterslide in dendermonde, you're getting a gas fine.
in arendonk, there's a line you can call if you know someone that didn't report the presence of oak processionary caterpillars on their property - gas fine up to 250 euro. also in arendonk, if you're fishing and the distance between you and your fishing rod is more than three meters, it's a fine.
in deinze, you can't throw confetti in the air after it has been on the ground. in wellen, however, confetti has to be biodegradable and at most 10mm wide
in ghent, you can't pick up the sand left behind by road crews for fifteen days - afterwards, it seems you can?
in lokeren, you can get a fine for scaring someone
in ronse, you can get a fine for making noise in public spaces
in antwerp, medicine for the people (a rly cool and good group) were vaccinating people in the marketplace and were fined for it
in evergem, if your dog's breed is on a list of an outdated and no longer used royal declaration, it has to wear a muzzle
you can't sing dirty songs in dendermonde
in mechelen, a resident was almost fined for picking a single flower
in jabbeke, you can keep 'aggressive and cruel' dogs, unless they're "too" aggressive and cruel
in beerse, only pregnant women can throw up in public or on private property that isn't your own
in leuven and hoeilaart, you can't shake trees or bushes in public.
in a couple of communities, you're not allowed to fire cannons.

and so on and so on

The Post That Turned Half of D&D Euroskeptic

Technogeek
Sep 9, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

ReindeerF posted:

I think we can all agree that immigrants who can't use the internet are immigrants we don't want!

At least we can be sure they won't take our jobs :v:

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

SedanChair posted:

The Post That Turned Half of D&D Euroskeptic
those are actually all municipal laws and your country probably has stupid ones like this as well, but also gently caress the EU so i'm glad everyone hates it now

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

R. Mute posted:

those are actually all municipal laws and your country probably has stupid ones like this as well, but also gently caress the EU so i'm glad everyone hates it now

Of course they are, but europeanism is the song of your "people." You're Europe's Fate.

e: added quotes to "people" to reflect their diffident, embarrassed nationalism

woke wedding drone fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Aug 16, 2014

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

R. Mute posted:

those are actually all municipal laws and your country probably has stupid ones like this as well, but also gently caress the EU so i'm glad everyone hates it now

Why don't you like the EU? :eurovision:=:britain:+:france:+:italy:+:spain:+...

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

R. Mute posted:

those are actually all municipal laws and your country probably has stupid ones like this as well, but also gently caress the EU so i'm glad everyone hates it now

I think he means that American liberals that tend to see Europe as the perfect haven of freedoms aren't going to be as fond of Europe once they're aware of stuff like this

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

R. Mute posted:

it's a "sport" where you release a special racing pigeon and they return to their home as fast as possible. their speed is then calculated and compared to the other pigeons and whoever is fastest gets the prize. it's still really popular in belgium and has actually spread to a lot of other countries. you can actually make a living breeding and selling racing pigeons - they go for absurd amounts of money if they're any good. a friend of a friend got something like 25.000 euro for a single pigeon. poo poo's insane.

in reality though it's really lame and dumb, but whatever. just wait until you hear about Vinkensport/finch sport.

For some reason my reading comprehension was confused as I was reading this post (I blame the whiskey) and thought the word pigeon meant a penguin.

It was magical :3:

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Kurtofan posted:

I think he means that American liberals that tend to see Europe as the perfect haven of freedoms aren't going to be as fond of Europe once they're aware of stuff like this

imagine them getting dropped off in the middle of Poland

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Why don't you like the EU? :eurovision:=:britain:+:france:+:italy:+:spain:+...
i like the idea of european cooperation and i don't necessarily have a problem with the original stated idea behind the eu, but the actual resulting organisation is just disgusting. it was always bad in the sense that it's foundations generally served to strengthen the larger nations (mainly france and germany) in favour of the smaller ones (mainly the PIGS), but the whole project really got into a bad zone once they decided to pursue expansion rather than further democratisation - a decision that was made for the most cynical of reasons. i don't have anything against eastern europeans, but the inclusion of the eastern european states was just a ploy to turn the union firmly liberal (as in: european liberal) - aside from the other reason of loving over russia. considering the rushed entrance of these states, despite them breaking nearly every rule the eu has, just makes this obvious. and you can see that once they were part of the eu things turned to poo poo even faster, clearly illustrated by the mess around the treaty of lisbon. and, y'know, its contents.

all the while, the democratisation process was left by the wayside until the rise of euroscepticism binned it permanently. sure, i can vote once every few years to get a representative into the european parliament, but that's not democracy. there's no european space, no oversight, no transparency, nothing that constitutes a healthy democracy aside from the actual vote. and even that's pretty worthless all things considered. meanwhile, the eu is encroaching on all levels of national governance taking that level of democracy away from me as well.

so what you get is a zealous neoliberal organisation that skirts around actual democracy so it can implement its vile ideas without any resistance. it also provides a fig leaf for scumbag politicians on a national level to hide behind eu regulations or guidelines when they want to introduce something particularly unpopular

also, it's massively corrupt - one look at the farm subsidy scheme should be enough to tell you that.

i mean, there are good things about it, but they're just overshadowed by how overwhelmingly poo poo it is.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Kurtofan posted:

I think he means that American liberals that tend to see Europe as the perfect haven of freedoms aren't going to be as fond of Europe once they're aware of stuff like this
yeah, well, liberals are idiots.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

R. Mute posted:

i like the idea of european cooperation and i don't necessarily have a problem with the original stated idea behind the eu, but the actual resulting organisation is just disgusting. it was always bad in the sense that it's foundations generally served to strengthen the larger nations (mainly france and germany) in favour of the smaller ones (mainly the PIGS), but the whole project really got into a bad zone once they decided to pursue expansion rather than further democratisation - a decision that was made for the most cynical of reasons. i don't have anything against eastern europeans, but the inclusion of the eastern european states was just a ploy to turn the union firmly liberal (as in: european liberal) - aside from the other reason of loving over russia. considering the rushed entrance of these states, despite them breaking nearly every rule the eu has, just makes this obvious. and you can see that once they were part of the eu things turned to poo poo even faster, clearly illustrated by the mess around the treaty of lisbon. and, y'know, its contents.

all the while, the democratisation process was left by the wayside until the rise of euroscepticism binned it permanently. sure, i can vote once every few years to get a representative into the european parliament, but that's not democracy. there's no european space, no oversight, no transparency, nothing that constitutes a healthy democracy aside from the actual vote. and even that's pretty worthless all things considered. meanwhile, the eu is encroaching on all levels of national governance taking that level of democracy away from me as well.

so what you get is a zealous neoliberal organisation that skirts around actual democracy so it can implement its vile ideas without any resistance. it also provides a fig leaf for scumbag politicians on a national level to hide behind eu regulations or guidelines when they want to introduce something particularly unpopular

also, it's massively corrupt - one look at the farm subsidy scheme should be enough to tell you that.

i mean, there are good things about it, but they're just overshadowed by how overwhelmingly poo poo it is.

That sounds like a good description of the American Federal government, to be honest. Maybe there just isn't a good way to govern over so many people in such a large territory. :smith:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Clearly the solution is anarcho-feudalism

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Absurd Alhazred posted:

That sounds like a good description of the American Federal government, to be honest. Maybe there just isn't a good way to govern over so many people in such a large territory. :smith:

Despotism.

Cercadelmar
Jan 4, 2014
Since when was :barry: a smilie?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Cercadelmar posted:

Since when was :barry: a smilie?

Must have been a day or two ago, because I am pretty sure I was looking at the smilies and it wasn't there on Thursday.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
It was like a month or two ago I think, that's when it first popped up on the cartoon thread.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Cercadelmar posted:

Since when was :barry: a smilie?

Since Michael Ramirez joined the forums... :tinfoil:

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Absurd Alhazred posted:

That sounds like a good description of the American Federal government, to be honest. Maybe there just isn't a good way to govern over so many people in such a large territory. :smith:

I think Europe could use an elected chief executive office with surpreme veto power and military authority.

JohnnyCanuck
May 28, 2004

Strong And/Or Free

Legit upset that the Japanese flag is on that huge conglomerate and yet there's nary a Maple Leaf to be found.



Canada Flag Best Flag.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Absurd Alhazred posted:

That sounds like a good description of the American Federal government, to be honest. Maybe there just isn't a good way to govern over so many people in such a large territory. :smith:

Europe used to have that licked, actually, but the main office was further south. The Germans hosed that one up, though.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Rappaport posted:

For some reason my reading comprehension was confused as I was reading this post (I blame the whiskey) and thought the word pigeon meant a penguin.

It was magical :3:

KoldPT
Oct 9, 2012
I really like the european union and I wish it was better

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

euphronius posted:

Despotism.

Pretty sure that's actually what Montesquieu advocated in Spirit of the Law as best for nations above a certain size. Or was that your point?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Chantilly Say posted:

Europe used to have that licked, actually, but the main office was further south. The Germans hosed that one up, though.

To be fair, Italy somehow managed to become absolute poo poo at empire building and organizing in the interim as well.

JohnnyCanuck posted:

Legit upset that the Japanese flag is on that huge conglomerate and yet there's nary a Maple Leaf to be found.



Canada Flag Best Flag.

More like Canada Fag. Sri Lanka's flag is the best.

e: Argentina's is pretty good too. Could use a spear and "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" on it, though.

Majorian fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Aug 17, 2014

made of bees
May 21, 2013
The best flag was the flag of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriyah :colbert:

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
e: Oops, the current flag wasn't Gaddafi's flag.:downs:

Majorian fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Aug 17, 2014

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

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I assume you aren't talking about the one that's a green rectangle.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Majorian posted:

To be fair, Italy somehow managed to become absolute poo poo at empire building and organizing in the interim as well.

Honestly most of Europe was garbage at empire building, it's just that the British were exceptionally good at it, the Dutch were pretty decent, and the French win the endurance challenge since they basically still have one.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Dreylad posted:

Honestly most of Europe was garbage at empire building, it's just that the British were exceptionally good at it, the Dutch were pretty decent, and the French win the endurance challenge since they basically still have one.

Plus the French also basically get Charlemagne by default, so that's pretty rad too.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Majorian posted:

Plus the French also basically get Charlemagne by default, so that's pretty rad too.

I'd argue that Charlemagne and the Franks were more Gemeranic than French.

visceril
Feb 24, 2008
Spain was a tryhard but peaked way too early and passed out a mile before the finish line

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

visceril posted:

Spain was a tryhard but peaked way too early and passed out a mile before the finish line

Biggest irony about Spain: brought loads of gold from the New World, which caused inflation throughout Europe and ultimately brought about the collapse of its empire. :ancap::hf::spain:

I guess you could say that sometimes the path to irony is paved with gold.

Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Aug 17, 2014

made of bees
May 21, 2013
Spain was the first one to get to use the 'the sun never sets' boast, that's gotta count for something.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010
What does all this make Portugal and Germany?

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

nutranurse posted:

I'd argue that Charlemagne and the Franks were more Gemeranic than French.

I've got a furious letter drafted and ready to go if Paradox puts Charlemagne in the Latin cultural group.

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Spain was pretty impressive IMO, given the sheer number of cities they founded up and down South America.

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