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My Imaginary GF posted:So my understanding of the current situation is this: Hey can you provide sources for the mcCullah, Koster, and Doolie stuff? This is news to me. Thanks
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thefncrow posted:Like these police haven't already lied about easily verifiable facts. They have but getting this specific of a lie going at a press conference would be a hell of a thing. I mean, they could claim "injuries" if the guy scraped his hand on his gun or whatever, claiming a swollen face from a fight with no actual event is a pretty big hole to have to try and dig yourself out of afterwards.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:35
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when did they make the claim about the cop having facial injuries? seems like a weird thing not to immediately release when the press starts showing up.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:36
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Monaghan posted:when did they make the claim about the cop having facial injuries? seems like a weird thing not to immediately release when the press starts showing up. They were holding his identity so it's not totally unbelievable they would hold that info back to keep him from being identified through other means.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:39
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I still don't understand what relevance him going for the police's gun has, if he didn't get it and then ran away, and THEN got shot. edit: basically, why does anything he did before he got shot matter, if when he was shot he was far away and unarmed? Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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Aug 16, 2014 22:40
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Guys, are you really arguing with a dude with a huge red title talking about how he's racist and that is unironically saying Zimmerman was "bloody and beaten"? Dude has proven before that he'll just accept any claim that a black dude is a blood thirsty monster.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:41
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Guys, are you really arguing with a dude with a huge red title talking about how he's racist and that is unironically saying Zimmerman was "bloody and beaten"? Dude has proven before that he'll just accept any claim that a black dude is a blood thirsty monster. Its fun. Anyway, I would actually like to see a source on the injury thing. I have been taking his word for it but eh.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:42
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Well if we're going to look at credibility of the involved parties... (this might have been covered before in the thread) http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html posted:The officers got the wrong man, but charged him anyway—with getting his blood on their uniforms.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:42
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Haha man follow my red title for my massive "racist rant" as decided by GBS 1.0.
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say no to scurvy posted:I have to assume the facial injuries are from when he hit his face on the door of his car after he slammed it into a fat guy. A cop hitting his head and overreacting makes a ton more sense than a cigar thief trying to get the holstered weapon of an officer seated in his car. This seems the most likely to me, but, again, no information supporting/disproving this has been released. Which is conspicuous as hell, given that the information should be available at the very least from the nature of the injuries the officer was treated for.
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natetimm posted:They were holding his identity so it's not totally unbelievable they would hold that info back to keep him from being identified through other means. They released the bit about facial injuries on Wednesday, while they were still holding back the officer's identity, so that's not it.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:45
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say no to scurvy posted:I have to assume the facial injuries are from when he hit his face on the door of his car after he slammed it into a fat guy. A cop hitting his head and overreacting makes a ton more sense than a cigar thief trying to get the holstered weapon of an officer seated in his car. It was all a misunderstanding. The officer was responding to a robery call when this young gentleman refused to move out of the way of his vehicle, and the officer attempted to prevent an accident. Unfortunately, the officer then suffered what now appear to be symptoms of a concussion after this accident, and in this state, believed that Brown was reaching for his weapon. In response, the Officer used lethal force to defend himself from a suspect that we, the Jury, know to possess the capacity for violent crime. We the jury find the accused officer not guilty on all counts. E: Fried Chicken posted:Hey can you provide sources for the mcCullah, Koster, and Doolie stuff? This is news to me. Thanks No, however, if you have between $500 and $2,500 to spare, I can direct you to some nice dinners where you'll have the chance to get a more honest picture. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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Aug 16, 2014 22:45
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Can we all at least agree that in light of the convenience store video, he deserved to die?
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Aug 16, 2014 22:48
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watwat posted:Can we all at least agree that in light of the convenience store video, he deserved to die? I agree, anyone who would unleash cigar smoke on the world deserves to be put up against the wall.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:02
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Samurai Sanders posted:I still don't understand what relevance him going for the police's gun has, if he didn't get it and then ran away, and THEN got shot. That's what I was getting at earlier. I mean, unless Brown was secretly a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants or something, then I'm really not seeing how he could've been anywhere near enough of a threat to require a lethal response.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:08
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I think my favorite thing about the "strongARMED ROBBERY" narrative is that the clerk didn't even call the police. He literally didn't feel threatened for it to be a problem.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:09
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Ernie Muppari posted:That's what I was getting at earlier. I mean, unless Brown was secretly a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants or something, then I'm really not seeing how he could've been anywhere near enough of a threat to require a lethal response.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:09
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Not that it justifies anything, but have any non-police sources confirmed that the cigar guy and shooting victim were the same people?
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Aug 16, 2014 23:09
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Even if the cop got the poo poo slapped out of him, so what? He didn't shoot Brown in a scuffle, he shot him from distance while Brown was not moving and had his hands in the air, surrendering. Just because you got your feels hurt because someone slapped the poo poo out of you doesn't mean you get to gun someone down in the street.Ernie Muppari posted:That's what I was getting at earlier. I mean, unless Brown was secretly a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants or something, then I'm really not seeing how he could've been anywhere near enough of a threat to require a lethal response. Brown is Dhalsim. It all fits.
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say no to scurvy posted:I have to assume the facial injuries are from when he hit his face on the door of his car after he slammed it into a fat guy. A cop hitting his head and overreacting makes a ton more sense than a cigar thief trying to get the holstered weapon of an officer seated in his car. This is the paragraph that's printed upside down in the "answers section" at the end of Encyclopedia Brown and the case of the Gentle Giant.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:10
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There was also that racist made up "drive by shooting" claimed by police behind their own street barricades, which the woman herself is saying was untrue
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Aug 16, 2014 23:20
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:This is the paragraph that's printed upside down in the "answers section" at the end of Encyclopedia Brown and the case of the Gentle Giant. Oh well thanks for spoiling it for the rest of us then! 
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Aug 16, 2014 23:23
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What ever happened to the guys with rifles in a truck or whatever?
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Aug 16, 2014 23:24
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natetimm posted:What ever happened to the guys with rifles in a truck or whatever? They always get away. 
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Aug 16, 2014 23:26
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Ernie Muppari posted:They always get away. I'm assuming they were white because I can't read a sentence with "rifle" and "truck" in it without thinking about white people.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:28
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Sappo posted:There was also that racist made up "drive by shooting" claimed by police behind their own street barricades, which the woman herself is saying was untrue Did they ever find out who actually shot that bullet or did it mysteriously disappear before ballistics testing could be done
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Aug 16, 2014 23:31
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natetimm posted:I'm assuming they were white because I can't read a sentence with "rifle" and "truck" in it without thinking about white people. God, it was obviously a GLA technical coming in as part of a mass terror attack against small town America. Fortunately the St Louis County's MRAP and SWAT in military gear scared them off.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:32
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Gonna have another goon meet tonight
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So during the protest footage shown on NBC's new tonight I saw a dude in a fez waving a Moroccan flag. Is there some connection between the case and Morocco or was it just some random weirdo waving a Moroccan flag in the middle of suburban Missouri for no reason?
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Aug 16, 2014 23:49
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:So during the protest footage shown on NBC's new tonight I saw a dude in a fez waving a Moroccan flag. Is there some connection between the case and Morocco or was it just some random weirdo waving a Moroccan flag in the middle of suburban Missouri for no reason? there's a moorish science temple in st louis
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Aug 16, 2014 23:54
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:Not that it justifies anything, but have any non-police sources confirmed that the cigar guy and shooting victim were the same people? Video shows cigar guy and Brown were wearing the same clothes, including the hat, and the friend Dorian Johnson admitted they were both at the store getting cigars. I believe the Police said they found the package of cigars at the scene as well, but even if you throw that out it's about as confirmed as you can get.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:56
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One thing I didn't understand about the Martin shooting case as well is, if the basis of the defense for a justified shooting is FEELING that you are in danger, doesn't that mean "he's black and I'm afraid of blacks" becomes a worthwhile defense?
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Samurai Sanders posted:One thing I didn't understand about the Martin shooting case as well is, if the basis of the defense is FEELING that you are in danger, doesn't that mean "he's black and I'm afraid of blacks" becomes a worthwhile defense? Oh well of course
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Aug 16, 2014 23:58
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Samurai Sanders posted:One thing I didn't understand about the Martin shooting case as well is, if the basis of the defense for a justified shooting is FEELING that you are in danger, doesn't that mean "he's black and I'm afraid of blacks" becomes a worthwhile defense? Practically speaking, however, probably yes in some guises. I.e., lots of dog-whistling may very well be a worthwhile defense. Not that it wasn't before, though.
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Aug 17, 2014 00:00
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Technically, no (I think).
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Aug 17, 2014 00:03
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People need to drop the college bound garbage. Based on the video of him, it is more likely he was prison bound.
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L-Boned posted:People need to drop the college bound garbage. Based on the video of him, it is more likely he was prison bound. Before anyone responds to this... quote:Anyway, I used to enjoy SA, but it is pretty much intolerable now. I am a moderate (shocking I bet to most of you). I voted for Obama in '08 but voted Libertarian in 2012 because both candidates suck. I will say this much. If the people of this country don't pull their heads out of their asses and stop getting their news from US news sites, this country is hosed. One of my friends who lives in Britain asked me why this case was such a big deal. I said because the media is like the weather channel. They are in it now for ratings, not journalistic integrity. Well, they sure got their ratings. Now the rest of us have to deal with it. So, continue to be bitter towards George Zimmerman, but your anger is misplaced.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I was asking about "technically", though. What I got out of the Martin case is that everything depends on your own personal thoughts and feelings at that moment. If they're justified to YOU at that moment, and there's no physical evidence that contradicts it, then you're in the clear. Personal prejudices are part of those thoughts and feelings, right? L-Boned posted:People need to drop the college bound garbage. Based on the video of him, it is more likely he was prison bound. 
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L-Boned posted:People need to drop the college bound garbage. Based on the video of him, it is more likely he was prison bound. What do people who are prison-bound look like? Thuggish? quote:I think my favorite thing about the "strongARMED ROBBERY" narrative is that the clerk didn't even call the police. He literally didn't feel threatened for it to be a problem. Wait really? But maybe he left it up to one of the other witnesses in the store? Even though it was "Strongarmed" Robbery that's kinda amazing, and suspicious if so. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Aug 17, 2014 |
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Neo Duckberg posted:Gonna have another goon meet tonight Remember, in bed with lights out by midnight!
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