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I've got some questions about being invaded, because I'm serious loving tired of it. I'm trying to get through O&S in Anor Londo, and have had the greatest success when I can bring a phantom with me. That means being "human" for the trip from the bonfire, to the summoning sigil, to O&S's area. Ordinarily I'd just stay hollow and all of these min-maxing invaders could suck a dick, but since I can't summon help in that state, that's not really a solution. This evening, I was pretty consistently invaded on the way between the bonfire and Solaire's summoning sigil. I thought there was a 10 minute "cool down" or something between being invaded so that you didn't have to contend with retarded poo poo like this--however, I am positive that's not happening because I was killed by an invader, respawned, bee-lined to recover my poo poo, and was invaded again (by somebody else) within 4 or 5 minutes of previously dying. So now I'm just alt+F4'ing the moment somebody pops up, because I'm not going to burn through humanity while every idiot stakes out O&S's gate and turns the place into some sort of Normandy beach. Is this normal? I can't even progress in the loving game because I keep getting waylaid by other players. I assume alt+F4'ing out of an invasion doesn't count as being successfully invaded (and therefore doesn't reset any "timer" that may exist), right? How can I have my cake (being able to summon NPC help) and eat it too (not having to deal with constant invasions)?
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Aug 17, 2014 05:23
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RBA Starblade posted:The Balder Knights being able to parry you backstabbing them is weird as hell. You both hold perfectly still, then the player slides in front of them, performs a normal attack seconds later, then they parry you. And in two hours I got summoned once. I could just go back in a few hours for lightning spear but I was trying to grind these lovely Balder guys anyway. I regret that decision. Cream-of-Plenty posted:How can I have my cake (being able to summon NPC help) and eat it too (not having to deal with constant invasions)?
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Aug 17, 2014 05:29
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Nahxela posted:Outside of the Solaire summons and the free sunlight medals, you could also farm sunlight maggots. It's not fun, but you can get your miracle, the same as you would with DMB. Oh cool, I didn't know they were drops off those things. I'm hoping that areas like Gaping Dragon might still have a few biters, though. I actually had a couple at the butterfly. I'm still going to drop offline if I want to grab the loot from the forest invader area though. e: Or just go in hollow I guess.
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Aug 17, 2014 05:38
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Nahxela posted:You can play offline and summon Solaire. Yeah that's what I figured. I guess I have to play around with some firewall settings in order to keep GFWL happy (it'll kick me off if it isn't able to connect to the internet) but temporarily block Dark Souls from talking to the outside world. It sucks that I have to do it this way, but these invaders are currently really spoiling what is otherwise a great game.
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Aug 17, 2014 05:40
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You can farm every covenant item in the game, you never need to play online to max everything out.
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Aug 17, 2014 05:44
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Yeah that's what I figured. I guess I have to play around with some firewall settings in order to keep GFWL happy (it'll kick me off if it isn't able to connect to the internet) but temporarily block Dark Souls from talking to the outside world. It sucks that I have to do it this way, but these invaders are currently really spoiling what is otherwise a great game. If you stay alt-tabbed for a bit, it goes offline automatically, because of dropped frames. At least it does for me.
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Aug 17, 2014 12:51
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The timer is something like 5 minutes (at least that's what I originally heard) so as long as there's some clown mashing their red eye orb you will get invaded every 5 minutes without fail, especially because you're probably the only human player going through there right now among the people you're matched to. I had the same experience there in NG+, and it was obnoxious as gently caress no matter how many of them I killed. The way the online mechanics work, there's going to be fewer and fewer people to summon as time goes on and all that's left will be the invaders because it will be the only reliable way to get any online action.
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Aug 17, 2014 13:11
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Mordaedil posted:If you feel that strongly about it, why do you even play online? I have to so I can get a summons for the boss. I don't do it during levels. I should have twigged that I got invaded whilst hollowed but I didn't really have time to think.
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Aug 17, 2014 17:51
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It's always fun going into the catacombs but a bit less fun going out. I got a bonewheel shield though! Also Lightning Spear is stupidly strong even at 20 faith and with only the thorolund talisman. Speaking of which I already offed Petrus, that won't affect Rhea selling me miracles later right?
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Aug 17, 2014 19:00
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RBA Starblade posted:It's always fun going into the catacombs but a bit less fun going out. I got a bonewheel shield though! Also Lightning Spear is stupidly strong even at 20 faith and with only the thorolund talisman. Speaking of which I already offed Petrus, that won't affect Rhea selling me miracles later right? If you kill him before they go down, they attack you on sight.
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Aug 17, 2014 19:02
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Lightning doesn't scale with any stat in DS1, I was told.
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Aug 17, 2014 19:03
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Flytrap posted:If you kill him before they go down, they attack you on sight. even after getting absolution?
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Aug 17, 2014 19:06
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double nine posted:even after getting absolution? Don't know, haven't read anything that says absolution wouldn't fix it though.
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Aug 17, 2014 19:09
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double nine posted:even after getting absolution? Pretty sure yeah, that doesn't fix it either. I know if you kill Nico or Vince while they're in Firelink (I wanted to see what would happen) the rest stay mad at you no matter what.
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Aug 17, 2014 19:13
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Oops. Well they hadn't shown up yet so maybe it'll be cool. I was gunning for Wrath of God. Oh well! I'll make do with lightning spear, heal, sunlight blade, and emit force if they're grumpy. e: I have enough in soul items now for absolution so no big deal. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Aug 17, 2014 |
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Aug 17, 2014 19:23
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pisshead posted:I have to so I can get a summons for the boss. I don't do it during levels. I should have twigged that I got invaded whilst hollowed but I didn't really have time to think. Alright, protip time. Be disconnected while you play the level, exit the game at the boss door, turn connection back on, start game up and you will be just where you left off and you can summon people to your hearts content probably without needing to alt-F4 when invaded. If you still get invaded, I dunno, alt-F4 as soon as they come within distance so they can get the kill on their end before their client notices that you've disconnected. Tae posted:Lightning doesn't scale with any stat in DS1, I was told. It doesn't, just look at the stat screen of any weapon made lightning. Things like Ornstein's spear might be exceptions to this rule
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Aug 17, 2014 19:36
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Actually should I request absolution before or after Rhea even shows up?
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Aug 17, 2014 19:45
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Tae posted:Lightning doesn't scale with any stat in DS1, I was told. Lightning weapons don't. Lightning Spear scales off of faith. The Dragonslayer's Spear deals lightning damage that does scale off of faith but it is the only weapon in the game that does this. edit: the internet is telling me that Lightning Spear's damage is just based on your talisman rather than having any faith adjustment Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 17, 2014 |
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Aug 17, 2014 19:55
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Manatee Cannon posted:Lightning weapons don't. Lightning Spear scales off of faith. The Dragonslayer's Spear deals lightning damage that does scale off of faith but it is the only weapon in the game that does this. It works the same way as in Dark Souls II. Miracles scale with the Faith scaling of the casting implement you use. The MagAdjust is a value calculated from the Faith/Int scaling. Some have fixed MagAdjust.
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Aug 17, 2014 20:06
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Wow, Lightning Spear obliterates the Capra Demon. Two shots took 90% of it's health off. I killed it with a plunging attack with my titanite catch pole. Amazing how much of a problem that guy was a couple years ago compared to now.
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Aug 18, 2014 03:23
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RBA Starblade posted:Wow, Lightning Spear obliterates the Capra Demon. Two shots took 90% of it's health off. I killed it with a plunging attack with my titanite catch pole. Amazing how much of a problem that guy was a couple years ago compared to now. Sounds like you're way overleveled for Capra. Most people take him on after the Bell Gargoyles.
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Aug 18, 2014 03:24
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Except for those of us who like to take him out before Tauros to be a balla'.
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Aug 18, 2014 03:27
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Tae posted:Sounds like you're way overleveled for Capra. Most people take him on after the Bell Gargoyles. I did take a shortcut to Moonlight Butterfly first, maybe that's why then. I found my first invader too! I got summoned as a phantom in the Depths and immediately killed by a lightning avelyn.  Now I'm at the doors to Blighttown. I don't remember if I ever went through the top of it myself on either of my previous runs or if every time I went "gently caress it" and went in the master key route at the bottom. e: What's the difference between the scimitar and falchion besides like five points of damage? I'm looking at them on the wiki and can't tell. Is it that the falchion has better scaling? I'm thinking of going with a falchion as a main weapon, a straight sword if I can get a good one, the darkmoon bow, and because I'm having fun with it the titanite catch pole. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 18, 2014 |
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Aug 18, 2014 04:30
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You're not really supposed to go to Darkroot before taking on the Capra or the Gargoyles, that's why the titanite demon is sitting there. There's a lot of instances like that in the early game where it tries to tell you to go another way by having a tough monster sitting in the way. Also gently caress you for getting the catch pole drop so early.  Took me forever to get that thing.
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Aug 18, 2014 05:16
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Manatee Cannon posted:You're not really supposed to go to Darkroot before taking on the Capra or the Gargoyles, that's why the titanite demon is sitting there. There's a lot of instances like that in the early game where it tries to tell you to go another way by having a tough monster sitting in the way. Seeing as how there's a wide open exit after the demon, and how weak the enemies in the forest are, that's not what it's telling you.
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Aug 18, 2014 05:25
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Manatee Cannon posted:You're not really supposed to go to Darkroot before taking on the Capra or the Gargoyles, that's why the titanite demon is sitting there. There's a lot of instances like that in the early game where it tries to tell you to go another way by having a tough monster sitting in the way. Honestly I couldn't remember what the 'right' order was and I was at Andre anyway. The demon didn't really do much of anything to me this game! Outside of Havel, the weirdness with those Balder knights, and that lovely dragon (which was my own fault for going up there so much) it's been smooth sailing actually. I bet the Hydra will gently caress me up real good though, I left that thing alone for the time being.
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Aug 18, 2014 05:26
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Genocyber posted:Seeing as how there's a wide open exit after the demon, and how weak the enemies in the forest are, that's not what it's telling you. The big door is saying there's stuff to explore, the big demon is saying come back later.
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Aug 18, 2014 05:31
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Manatee Cannon posted:The big door is saying there's stuff to explore, the big demon is saying come back later. No, the big demon is saying "you don't have to kill everything." There's a reason it's not an enemy that chases you particularly well.
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Aug 18, 2014 05:35
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Nothing chases you well into a new area because they can't leave the one they're in. There's a bunch of instances like that where the game is saying you can go this way, but you shouldn't yet. Which is nice. The only real gates to progress are Sen's Fortress and the lordvessel.
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Aug 18, 2014 05:43
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RBA Starblade posted:Honestly I couldn't remember what the 'right' order was and I was at Andre anyway. The demon didn't really do much of anything to me this game! Outside of Havel, the weirdness with those Balder knights, and that lovely dragon (which was my own fault for going up there so much) it's been smooth sailing actually. I bet the Hydra will gently caress me up real good though, I left that thing alone for the time being. The hydra is really weak to lightning spear, but you need to be careful about when you cast it because of range issues. Throwing a spear just when it's about to lunge at you is perfect.
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Aug 18, 2014 09:58
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titanite demons are pretty easy due to the safe spot on their sides. Provided you have room to maneuver they're pretty much a fight of attrition rather than a DPS racepun pundit posted:The hydra is really weak to lightning spear, but you need to be careful about when you cast it because of range issues. Throwing a spear just when it's about to lunge at you is perfect. i wonder: the ring that extends bow range, does it also affect spells and/or miracles?
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Aug 18, 2014 09:58
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Hyrdas are gimmick enemies. Just get near them and block, hunt down the heads, repeat.
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Aug 18, 2014 10:13
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After killing the heads that strike where you stand, I find it much better to use ranged weapons to finish the fight. Running around after heads is just stressful, man.
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Aug 18, 2014 10:20
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pun pundit posted:After killing the heads that strike where you stand, I find it much better to use ranged weapons to finish the fight. Running around after heads is just stressful, man. Especially that one head that will always land juuuust inside the hole.
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Aug 18, 2014 10:24
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That head is the biggest dick.
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Aug 18, 2014 10:53
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You don't actually have to cut off the heads to kill the hydra. If you have a bow you can just find one of the spots where none of the heads will hit you and spam arrows until it dies. I tend to kill the heads within immediate reach and then snipe it the rest of the way.
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Aug 18, 2014 11:21
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Upper Blighttown's framerate is somehow worse than lower Blighttown. And these ladders with enemies below them you can't hurt and they can instantly grab you off the ladder and combo kill you suck. One of the fat ones clipped through the level, hit me in the face, clipped me through the level, and off the cliff too. Also it turns out requesting absolution does absolutely nothing to Rhea, Vance, and Nico. Kill Petrus and they are pissed no matter what. I have enough humanity to save Solaire now though!  e: By the way Pinwheel didn't drop a mask for me when he died. What's up with that? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Aug 18, 2014 23:58
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Okay, I bought DS during the summer sale, and it turns out GFWL doesn't work too well with windows 8, despite me fiddling with compatability settings. Is there a guide in the thread for setting this up? Has there been a mod for saving offline, in between all of the HD texture packs? EDIT: Is there info on loving around with GFWL in general? Now it's insisting that I'm not connected to the internet even though I just logged in (it can't detect an IP address or System Link Address). Yak Shaves Dot Com fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Aug 19, 2014 07:26
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It's nothing to do with Windows 8, GFWL is just poo poo. Keep fiddling, you'll get it working eventually and the online features really are worth it (most of the time).
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Aug 19, 2014 09:07
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God I hate the Stray Demon so much. An attack that hits the entire arena even though the hitbox is like a fifth of it? Yes please!
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Aug 19, 2014 20:09
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