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Neo Duckberg posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUAQh1ZIHmM Thank you for this. I'm really glad you made it out okay and I know we all appreciate you documenting this terrible situation immensely.
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There were a few other goons out there tonight, right? One making a documentary and a few locals? Did everyone make it out ok?
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:00 |
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Arkane posted:His legislative attempts to lessen the war of drugs would certainly create a climate where Ferguson is at least less likely to happen. The War On Drugs, the War On Terror, police militarization are all only tangential to what happened to Mike Brown. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/08/itemizing-atrocity/
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:01 |
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slogula posted:I go away for 8 hours and 2100 posts. What the holy gently caress happened??? AJE reports "police accelerated their own crowd control efforts." I'm assuming this is euphemism? No one bothering to tell you the cops and media were shot at is pretty funny. Might have something to do with how the last few hours have shaped up.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:01 |
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drat duckberg its a good thing you got down as you soon as you did. That poo poo sounds rough as gently caress stay safe dude.
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slogula posted:I'm trying to get caught up. It's looking like the cops abandoned restraint, correct? "No curfew" means curfew all the time? According to Captain Johnson two people were taken to the hospital. He made sure to point out how quickly those protesting against the police were asking for the help of police after a little old bullet wound. The regular bullets being used appear to have not come from the police but people in the protesting crowds.
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Untagged posted:No one bothering to tell you the cops and media were shot at is pretty funny. Might have something to do with how the last few hours have shaped up. man you're the best
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Untagged posted:No one bothering to tell you the cops and media were shot at is pretty funny. Might have something to do with how the last few hours have shaped up. This isn't true that it hasn't been covered and it seems that this thread is willing to accept that elements of the protesters are not entirely peaceful themselves.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:04 |
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SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:This isn't true that it hasn't been covered and it seems that this thread is willing to accept that elements the protesters are not entirely peaceful themselves. Also he completely hosed up the order of events, as cops started firing tear gas and rubber bullets before any shots were fired from agitators. But obviously the police had received a message from the future telling them what was about to transpire.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:05 |
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cravius posted:Its not crips and bloods, its three crips but whatever floats yalls boat If you have backing evidence against that PLEASE provide it, thats kinda the whole point of the thread I thought.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:05 |
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420DD Butts posted:Also he completely hosed up the order of events, as cops started firing tear gas and rubber bullets before any shots were fired from agitators. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but the timeline between shots and loving GAS AND SHOOT EVERYBODY seems really vague right now. I believe I remember Tim Pool saying he heard shots first before everything went to poo poo. cravius posted:Do you contribute anything other than grading troll posts? Better than taking them too seriously
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:05 |
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Lessail posted:man you're the best Do you contribute anything other than grading troll posts?
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:06 |
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420DD Butts posted:Also he completely hosed up the order of events, as cops started firing tear gas and rubber bullets before any shots were fired from agitators. cravius posted:Its not crips and bloods, its three crips but whatever floats yalls boat
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SectumSempra posted:If you have backing evidence against that PLEASE provide it, thats kinda the whole point of the thread I thought. Orange is another crip color not a blood color.
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SectumSempra posted:If you have backing evidence against that PLEASE provide it, thats kinda the whole point of the thread I thought. A black man is wearing a colored bandana. Therefore he is in a gang. This checks out.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:07 |
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Rollofthedice posted:Maybe I'm wrong about this, but the timeline between shots and loving GAS AND SHOOT EVERYBODY seems really vague right now. I believe I remember Tim Pool saying he heard shots first before everything went to poo poo. Police were firing tear gas well before this phase of "shoot at anything that moves". Even before the press got relocated and told to wait for a press conference that seems more and more like a distraction to make sure they're not getting the real story in the place they just walked away from.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:08 |
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cravius posted:Do you contribute anything other than grading troll posts? Grading posts that grade troll posts. Shameful.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:08 |
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cravius posted:Do you contribute anything other than grading troll posts? so they are troll posts?
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Rollofthedice posted:Maybe I'm wrong about this, but the timeline between shots and loving GAS AND SHOOT EVERYBODY seems really vague right now. I believe I remember Tim Pool saying he heard shots first before everything went to poo poo. This is also true. If you watch Neo Duckberg's video it seems that the shots being fired and the gassing happened somewhat simultaneously but it's definitely hard to say for certain. However, that's not to say that previous police actions in the evening didn't serve to agitate the demonstrators as they heavily used LRAD and were very controlling.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:09 |
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Rollofthedice posted:Maybe I'm wrong about this, but the timeline between shots and loving GAS AND SHOOT EVERYBODY seems really vague right now. I believe I remember Tim Pool saying he heard shots first before everything went to poo poo. They were shooting tear gas and breaking up the protest before the shots, the video even shows it. If you don't want things to escalate out of control maybe you shouldn't... um, well, escalate the situation?
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:09 |
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MariusLecter posted:Grading posts that grade troll posts. Shameful. I give this post a B- SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:
Totally, absolutely agree. For the record I'm just saying that the VICE stream was chaotic enough that I had a tough time telling when things had begun and ended in reaction to what. Chelb fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Rollofthedice posted:Maybe I'm wrong about this, but the timeline between shots and loving GAS AND SHOOT EVERYBODY seems really vague right now. I believe I remember Tim Pool saying he heard shots first before everything went to poo poo. Tim was surrounded by tear gas on his stream before live rounds were shot at the police and had to run through tear gas after the press cluster he was with hit the ground. Earlier before that he was hit in the leg by what was likely a ricocheting rubber slug. Not saying that there aren't a few utter nutcases in the crowds, and I doubt any of the nutcases are actual locals, but the cops definitely started the party tonight.
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SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:This is also true. If you watch Neo Duckberg's video it seems that the shots being fired and the gassing happened somewhat simultaneously but it's definitely hard to say for certain. They were bound to start getting aggressive once it was clear they wanted the press gathered up in a nice little ball of bored and disinterested young staffers, until the tv stars got tired and went back to their hotels leaving the staff to wait at the FREEDOM ZONE.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:10 |
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Nonsense posted:Nevermind that Paul will just about blow off a dog for a donation. I mean this is an absolutely idiotic criticism considering who his likely Democratic opponent would be in a hypothetical match-up. She's touring the country looking for whomever will pay her the most money. Meanwhile Rand is down in Guatamala performing free eye surgeries on the poorest people on the planet. I'll stop posting about it after this post....but on this issue (situations like Ferguson), Rand Paul (and other Republicans in the libertarian wing) have been strident: end the war on drugs, stop racial profiling, and de-militarize the police. This has been a vocal issue for him and a legislative one to boot. This issue and related ones are super important to me and I think should be to everyone. It dovetails right into the NSA and surveillance, the vast crackdown on freedom of the press by the US government...basically, a burgeoning centralized power that was the exact antithesis of what the Constitution was trying to ensure. And it's not conspricy theory territory, James Risen a few days ago in the New York Times said that the Obama administration was the biggest enemy of the free press in a generation. Hillary is going to simply be an extension of Obama, and if her stance on Syria is any indication, an even more hawkish extension of Obama. That means more chance of war, drone strikes, bigger NSA, more militarized police (it's the DoD that is doing it, controlled by the Executive branch). Basically everything you hate. But because Rand said some dumb quote at some point or that Aqua Babba bullshit from college or you're stupid enough to think he wants to "PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING" the vast majority of the people reading this post (maybe not you, but the vast majority) are going to pull that lever for Hillary and we'll all be right back here posting about it 4 years from now, "welp I didn't think she'd be that bad, Bill was a great President." It's all super predictable.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:11 |
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The Intercept's Field reporter in Ferguson got detained https://twitter.com/the_intercept/status/501626595384512512 I love Rand Pauls stand on militarized police and anti intervention in general just wish he wasn't such a horrible poo poo bag about other stuff.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:12 |
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gently caress Duckberg I'm glad you're ok. Thanks for posting!
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:13 |
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Link to that Fox Reporter getting arrested?
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:13 |
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Arkane posted:Man people are just legit furious that Rand Paul had the strongest statement on these events. Sorry that your political idols are cool with the status quo and/or too concerned with their own political capital that they're too cowardly to speak out. "I have never argued against any technology being used against having an imminent threat, [or] an act of crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.” -Rand Paul Please, please try to reconcile this with your idea that Rand Paul is somehow not in favor of summarily executing criminals on the street. Or are you going to ignore it again? I'm not the first to quote The Great White Savior himself to you. I am delighted that Rand Paul is, for once, actually aligning with people who want the world to be less terrible. It is disconcerting to agree with him but I could not be happier to have an issue where both sides of the aisle have something they want in sight that can actually help regular Americans. It's the first time in years I have actually held ANY hope for anything in this country getting any better. I really don't care what letter he has by his name, the fact that he has publicly supported summarily executing people for robbery, skipping due process entirely is why he is a wretched and evil human being. But, frankly, if he says "Police Militarization is bad" and actually runs with it, awesome. You dumb piece of poo poo. Magres fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Also journalists not on television appear to be paid absolute dog poo poo and aren't at all supported by their news orgs for being in STL if they're waiting around for a conference that probably won't happen because none of them can sleep anywhere or have anywhere to go.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:13 |
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Arkane posted:I mean this is an absolutely idiotic criticism considering who his likely Democratic opponent would be in a hypothetical match-up. She's touring the country looking for whomever will pay her the most money. Meanwhile Rand is down in Guatamala performing free eye surgeries on the poorest people on the planet. you're super predictable yourself
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:13 |
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Who gives a poo poo about Rand Paul?
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:14 |
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Rand Paul doesn't care about black people.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:15 |
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Dear Arkane, You are retarded as gently caress and a bitch. Stfu.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:16 |
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FFS can this thread please not be about rand paul
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:16 |
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I want to see more people getting gassed and less Rand Paul/Hillary circle jerking. Are the police still hunting people down?
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:16 |
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Widestancer posted:I want to see more people getting gassed and less Rand Paul/Hillary circle jerking.
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:17 |
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has anyone come forward backing up the shooting officer's account of incident, besides the friend of the friend on the radio station?
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:17 |
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Flameingblack posted:Really not sure if a Crip would wear rival gang colors like that, but it's not hard to believe that both would join forces against the police like the LA riots. Orange is a crip color not a blood color
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 08:18 |
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pillsburysoldier posted:has anyone come forward backing up the shooting officer's account of incident, besides the friend of the friend on the radio station? Yes, a friend of the police officer e: gently caress your quick edit
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Widestancer posted:Are the police still hunting people down? I'm not seeing much on Twitter. Either it quieted down or everyone's being gassed so much their tear ducts are exploding
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