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My English major roommate in college thought JD Salinger was just the best. I never thought he came close to Dostoyevsky though.
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Aug 19, 2014 23:48
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what are some "classics" you guys didn't like? a lot of 19th century gothic writers, like liars and bad breath, are a huge turn-off for me. i can take it if reading your work is challenging, but don't make it a punishment.
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Aug 19, 2014 23:51
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Nathaniel Hawthorne is unreadable bilge. The Scarlet letter holy poo poo. It's like Warhammer 40 k levels of fiction.
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Aug 19, 2014 23:53
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R. Mute posted:what are some "classics" you guys didn't like? a lot of 19th century gothic writers, like liars and bad breath, are a huge turn-off for me. i can take it if reading your work is challenging, but don't make it a punishment. Brave New World and The Scarlet Letter were boring as gently caress also I don't enjoy Shakespeare
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Aug 19, 2014 23:54
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Badger of Basra posted:also I don't enjoy Shakespeare
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Aug 19, 2014 23:58
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I didn't really like The Old Man and the Sea.
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Aug 19, 2014 23:58
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R. Mute posted:reading it and watching it on stage? both, but I also generally don't enjoy theater
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Couldn't get past the first page of Last of the Mohicans and I can read both horrible genre trash and classical literature.
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Aug 19, 2014 23:59
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euphronius posted:Nathaniel Hawthorne is unreadable bilge. The Scarlet letter holy poo poo. It's like Warhammer 40 k levels of fiction. I enjoy some of his short stories, Young Goodman Brown has an energy and menace that's worlds apart from the snore fest that is The Scarlet Letter. Anyway, I loathe Dickens with a passion. edit: Zeitgueist posted:Couldn't get past the first page of Last of the Mohicans and I can read both horrible genre trash and classical literature. You're in good company on that one. http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/offense.html
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Aug 20, 2014 00:02
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Shakespeare is transcendent man, I don't get that at all. It should not be taught in high school though. What does a 16 year old know about anything to understand those themes.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:03
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Shakespeare should not be taught read...it's performance, it doesn't have the same flow in text.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:04
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Badger of Basra posted:both, but I also generally don't enjoy theater
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Aug 20, 2014 00:06
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euphronius posted:Shakespeare is transcendent man, I don't get that at all. It should not be taught in high school though. What does a 16 year old know about anything to understand those themes. My English teachers gave as much acknowledgement to the sex jokes as they could probably get away with. Other than that--I don't think it's dumb to teach Shakespeare in high school, but I don't know why they seemed to want us to read one play every year.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:08
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R. Mute posted:seems like a broad thing to dislike. unless you're just bored of 'modern adaptation of romeo and juliet version MCXXIV' because ugh It might be (probably is) just the theater I've seen, but I can't handle the overacting and the fake accents and the in-your-face-ness I like opera and musicals, but that's because I enjoy music (although obviously those are very different kinds of music) edit: what are similar authors for other languages? like authors everyone Has To Read and that everyone knows about through cultural osmosis? Cervantes for Spanish, I would guess
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Aug 20, 2014 00:09
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Zeitgueist posted:Couldn't get past the first page of Last of the Mohicans and I can read both horrible genre trash and classical literature. It's probably one of the few instances of classic literature where the well done movie adaptations are just as good, if not better than the book. The 1920, 1936, & 1992 versions are the ones to watch. Speaking of movies about the plight of Native Americans, I'm a huge sucker for always watching Last of the Dogmen whenever it gets shown on TV. The love story that drives the movie is poo poo, but the scenery and the way they treat the historical treatment of Native Americans is top notch.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:10
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Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet is actually fantastic though. He uses lines from the play completely iirc, which I guess means it's not an adaption.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:13
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R. Mute posted:seems like a broad thing to dislike. unless you're just bored of 'modern adaptation of romeo and juliet version MCXXIV' because ugh The '96 Romeo+Juliet movie is weirdly entertaining, frankly. We watched it in 9th grade after we watched the Zeffirelli adaptation.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:15
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I know Tom Wolfe isn't literature but I loving hated I Am Charlotte Simmons with the passion of a thousand burning mons pubii Oh yeah, 70 year old man in a white suit, you totally understand college age women  
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Aug 20, 2014 00:15
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I was intrigued by Waiting for Godot when I read it but it would probably be better performed.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:17
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What is literature?
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Aug 20, 2014 00:18
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Anyway, I loathe Dickens with a passion.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:18
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Badger of Basra posted:It might be (probably is) just the theater I've seen, but I can't handle the overacting and the fake accents and the in-your-face-ness i haven't really gotten into opera (yet) but i do love musicals goddamn they're great.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:19
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Girl number twenty unable to define a horse! Girl number twenty possessed of no facts, in reference to one of the commonest of animals!
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Aug 20, 2014 00:19
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Lurhmann's going to do a Hamlet movie as well. So look forward to watching that in 3D with a score by Taylor Swift.
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^^ i found his soundtrack choices pretty okay for romeo+juliet. moulin rouge, however... i liked the husky spanish type singing roxanne better than sting's whiny poo poo, though^^euphronius posted:Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet is actually fantastic though. He uses lines from the play completely iirc, which I guess means it's not an adaption. Chantilly Say posted:The '96 Romeo+Juliet movie is weirdly entertaining, frankly. We watched it in 9th grade after we watched the Zeffirelli adaptation.  but that's because luhrmann's style just somehow worked with the story (the only other film of his i've seen was moulin rouge and it could've been great but it wasn't). i'd also watch the film just for john leguizamo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXdeUjM1pc
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Aug 20, 2014 00:22
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R. Mute posted:but that's because luhrmann's style just somehow worked with the story It was impressive that he was able to locate pop songs that were evocative of teenage romantic angst.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:24
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Strictly Ballroom is worth a watch but I'm a sucker for dance movies
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Aug 20, 2014 00:25
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yeah, yeah, but the whole 'let's dial everything up to 11 and make things tacky as poo poo' worked as well.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:25
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best part of the luhrmann R&J version was the opening scene. "what noise is this! give me my broad sword!" *cut to a shotgun with "broadsword" engraved on the barrel*
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Aug 20, 2014 00:27
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Interesting the name Godot is not supposed to be a reference to God. Don't know what Beckett was thinking because he knew it was going to be translated into English. Yeah it was originally written in French! Which makes perfect sense really.
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StandardVC10 posted:I was intrigued by Waiting for Godot when I read it but it would probably be better performed. My first introduction to Waiting for Godot came when a friend chose a piece from the play to use as his competition piece for the forensic speaking team we were both on. Problems I have with a lot of Shakespeare can, frankly, be laid more or less entirely at Kenneth Branagh's scene-chewing feet. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Aug 20, 2014 |
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the best shakespeare adaptation is probably rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead probably, maybe
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Aug 20, 2014 00:30
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R. Mute posted:the best shakespeare adaptation is It is.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:31
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I hate almost everything I've ever read by Dickens, the exception being A Tale of Two Cities, which is one of my favorite books. Robinson Crusoe is also terrible.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:31
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Thanatosian posted:I hate almost everything I've ever read by Dickens, the exception being A Tale of Two Cities, which is one of my favorite books. Anyone who doesn't like The Mystery of Edwin Drood is living an empty, pointless life. 
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Aug 20, 2014 00:32
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I think Shakespeare wins the battle of "who, if alive today, would make the best Hollywood director?" Can you imagine what Wagner would film?
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Aug 20, 2014 00:33
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R. Mute posted:the best shakespeare adaptation is probably rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead Scott Tenorman Must Die
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Aug 20, 2014 00:33
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I thought watching Barry Lyndon was a hard slog.... then I read the book. Oof.
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euphronius posted:I think Shakespeare wins the battle of "who, if alive today, would make the best Hollywood director?" I've got a pretty good idea, frankly.
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