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Godholio posted:Gee, maybe cutting flight hrs by 10% per year for a decade was a bad idea. Sims are all you need. 
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slidebite posted:It's been at least a page since we've had an F35 poo poo fest, so I thought I'd just post a handy little image I saw today. Someone needs to go back to geography class. (Check #4 and #17.)
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It's kind of overstating things because they list stuff that isn't actually dependent on the F-35 program. Like the British ejection seats: Martin Baker makes ejection seats for a lot of people (including all European fighters and the F/A-18), if it weren't the F-35 it'd be some other plane. Or for France, one of the contractors they mention is Dassault Systèmes and again it's something that would be developed, and bought by engineers worldwide, even without the F-35 (France isn't even an F-35 partner).
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Cat Mattress posted:It's kind of overstating things because they list stuff that isn't actually dependent on the F-35 program. Like the British ejection seats: Martin Baker makes ejection seats for a lot of people (including all European fighters and the F/A-18), if it weren't the F-35 it'd be some other plane. Or for France, one of the contractors they mention is Dassault Systèmes and again it's something that would be developed, and bought by engineers worldwide, even without the F-35 (France isn't even an F-35 partner). But think of all the jobs that would be lost at Dassault if countries switched from the F-35 to the Dassault Rafale!
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iyaayas01 posted:putting it down at the wrong airport in FL The disbelief in the person filming this is hilarious: http://youtu.be/nkuqsd_tRHw
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^^^ Admittedly that is a pretty good feather for Boeing to stick in their hat. "Yeah, even when the dumbass flight crews accidentally land at the wrong airport on a runway that's way shorter than they thought, our plane can handle it"   Notice that the white ones come in all sizes and shapes, the yellow one is the smallest, and the black one is the biggest and puts everything else there to shame.
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Sagebrush posted:^^^ Admittedly that is a pretty good feather for Boeing to stick in their hat. "Yeah, even when the dumbass flight crews accidentally land at the wrong airport on a runway that's way shorter than they thought, our plane can handle it" Kind of, but isn't the whole point of those military transport planes to be able to land on short, improvised fields? Just because that guy didn't know that doesn't change that. E: Wikiepedia says 3500' full loaded.
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Sagebrush posted:^^^ Admittedly that is a pretty good feather for Boeing to stick in their hat. "Yeah, even when the dumbass flight crews accidentally land at the wrong airport on a runway that's way shorter than they thought, our plane can handle it" Experimental planes are always the coolest looking, but that image is missing my favorite:  Look at that beauty.
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Godholio posted:C-130 lands gears up. Good place to do it, since Hill is one of the depot maintenance bases for C-130s. It's a good thing that happened there, the same plane was doing stuff at KOGD the night before. I would've been upset if it landed gear up there and screwed up all three runways.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Kind of, but isn't the whole point of those military transport planes to be able to land on short, improvised fields? Just because that guy didn't know that doesn't change that. Yeah but you don't always brief a full reverse slam the breaks kinda landing either
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The Ferret King posted:The disbelief in the person filming this is hilarious: Your Dad witnesses a minor aviation mishap
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Bob A Feet posted:Yeah but you don't always brief a full reverse slam the breaks kinda landing either Yeah basically I was thinking this. Having the whole crew preparing for a tacticool combat landing on a short field probably puts you in a different situation on approach than "uh, yeah, this is probably the place, I think"
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"Huh, this runway sure is skinnier and shorter than I remem-OH poo poo" God I would love to have heard the CVR (those equipped on C17s?) during that rollout.
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Yeah I'd like to be a fly on the wall of that cockpit
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I wanna hear the CVR for after they'd come to a stop. Didn't someone in this thread post the recording of their conversation with ATC? Something like "Uh, we've landed." "I can't see you." "Yeah um..." "Can you look around and see if there's a sign with the name of the airport?" Edit: Or was that the Dreamlifter? I think it was the Dreamlifter.
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FrozenVent posted:I wanna hear the CVR for after they'd come to a stop. Yeah, that was the Dreamlifter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P6LV-DKMrc
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Man is he ever flustered. Copies the coordinates down wrong, confuses east and west, says he's south of the airport when he's actually north...jeez. Did anything ever come of that?
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So bad. Just imagine that sudden realization; this is landing number 15,000 and you did everything the same as always and HOLY gently caress we are down in a place we can't take off from, maybe we ruined the strip trapping all the airplanes parked here and ruining all the companies relying on those planes to fly and they're all going to sue Boeing, everybody's gonna know it was me and I'm not going to be able to make the mortgage payment next month and I'm trying to copy down coordinates desperately hoping it might fix everything maybe but probably not. gently caress.
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I just can't believe his loving plane can't tell him what drat airport he's currently sitting at. I know that drat thing has an FMS.
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Bob A Feet posted:I just can't believe his loving plane can't tell him what drat airport he's currently sitting at. I know that drat thing has an FMS. There's a pretty good photosynth of the dreamlifter cockpit, and it's even got built-in EFBs. The guy was just horribly flustered.
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FrozenVent posted:Controller sounds bored out of his mind though. That's the mark of true professionalism right there. You know the controller and the supervisor who went on the radio in the middle there were saying "what the gently caress" to each other about 73,000 times but it never made it on the radio.
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The C-17 that landed with the gear down at BAF was that in 05? If that's the one I'm thinking about I was working the line A-10 side of the runway.
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Sagebrush posted:
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The F-16XL is still in NASA's active inventory? That's surprising. fake edit: ah, it was retired in 2009, a year after that photo.
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 Pretty drat AI -- 10 foot wingspan and 10 electric motors
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Greataval posted:The C-17 that landed with the gear down at BAF was that in 05? If that's the one I'm thinking about I was working the line A-10 side of the runway. There have probably been a lot of C-17s with gear-down landings at BAF  A Handed Missus posted:
Man, never realized just how big the Predator was, thing's loving huge (that is a Pred, right?)
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movax posted:There have probably been a lot of C-17s with gear-down landings at BAF On the right? no it's a Reaper, on the left is a global hawk.
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A Handed Missus posted:
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TheFluff posted:What's the 747 with the goofy fins on the elevator and weird pins all over for? It's the pickup truck of 747s.  e. I like how everyone dogpiled on this.
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TheFluff posted:What's the 747 with the goofy fins on the elevator and weird pins all over for? It's for carrying the space shuttle.
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TheFluff posted:What's the 747 with the goofy fins on the elevator and weird pins all over for? 
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TheFluff posted:What's the 747 with the goofy fins on the elevator and weird pins all over for? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuttle_Carrier_Aircraft They looked better in the old American Airlines livery they had when NASA first got them. 
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Haha, right after posting that I googled "dryden flight research center" and figured it out from the wiki entry, but during the five minutes it took to do that I get no less than four awesome picture replies. I love this thread 
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In case anyone doesn't read the Wikipedia article, I got a kick out of this:
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priznat posted:
SHATO/VL
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priznat posted:
Ah yes, Moonraker, the movie that somehow managed to gently caress up "James Bond and a platoon of Marines fly to the big bad's space station in a shuttle cargo bay, where they engage the big bad's army in spacesuit combat with lasers". That said, the shuttle did do flights off the back of the carrier, albeit unpowered: 
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It belongs in a museum. Houston recently got their shuttle mockup mounted to their carrier.
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