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My idiot truther friend just posted this on Facebook. I'm trying to figure the best way to tell him he might be schizophrenic.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 02:50 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 03:15 |
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Pretty sure the illuminati don't go whacking 1%ers just to HYPNOTOAD the masses lol Clearly it was a faked death.
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 14:45 |
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Randy Quaid knew the truth! Why didn't we listen then?
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# ? Aug 13, 2014 15:47 |
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E-Tank posted:http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/18/another-russia-today-reporter-resigns-every-single-day-were-lying-and-finding-sexier-ways-to-do-it/ But really, while "truthers" might seem like laughing stock in America. If you go to countries with majority of population who are cynical towards USA, truthers aren't really laughing stock and in some cases, like Russia, people who are devout conspiracy theorists even have high-ranking positions within the government. You probably even know former Iran president Ahmadinejad who IIRC publicly proclaimed 9/11 as false-flag attack and/or into Holocaust denial. They're not even the average mad-man like in the US, some "truthers" are even very highly educated. Most of those who are into conspiracy theories domain stem from their view toward America's foreign policy. If you try to explain, they will probably just reply "**cough** Snowden...NSA..." "How about the WMD in Iraq...hmmm?" and mention CIA/USA-sponsored coups "They overthrow these populist figures" "They install puppet dictators in [[insert countries here]]" and so on. And seeing as how many of these people have experienced the result of America's foreign policy on their home soil first-hand, I don't think you can fully blame them. Section 31 fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Aug 14, 2014 |
# ? Aug 14, 2014 23:54 |
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Yeah, if the CIA has actually murdered your president or given guns to rebels that killed your family and ruined your city, I will give you a pass on believing the one conspiracy theory that isn't true.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 00:00 |
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A huge loving downside to the way the CIA used a vaccination clinic as a front to verify the location of Osama bin Laden is the justification it gave to vaccine paranoia in that part of the world.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 01:05 |
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Redeye Flight posted:How has no-one put THESE two and two together yet? Ron Paul says that the US government has secretly taken some of the gold out of Fort Knox, so the idea is kicking around.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 04:04 |
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I have a coworker who is deep into this stuff. He sent me a poorly hacked together "independent study" that was making all sorts of claims about how microwave radiation causes cancer, and I was pointing out that it was stacking shaky premise upon shaky premise. He went on to say that sometimes you just have to trust your intuition to extrapolate inferences on this stuff, upon which I tried to highlight the difference between an intuitive truth and an empirical truth. Me: "Intuition is what tells you 'maybe'." Him: "For me it's more like 'almost sure'." I think I understand a bit better now.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 12:06 |
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Some folks will probably believe that every "bad thing" is courtesy of the Great Evil USA https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commentaryanalysis/560119-baghdadi-denial-syndrome quote:One of the most alarming features of Arab responses to the rise of the Islamic State (IS) in Syria and Iraq is a persistent pattern of neurotic denial in the form of conspiracy theories and other escapist fantasies. But running away from the truth will only complicate the ability of Arab states and societies to comprehend where the IS came from, how it has unexpectedly managed to surge into so much power so quickly, and how it can be effectively countered. This comment made me chuckle though quote:2jews sitting on a bank reading newspapers, one read an Israeli paper, the other an Arab one. The jew asks the other how come that you read this Arab paper? It is full of wrong Infos. He replied, well, if I read the Jewish paper, I only see the quarrels between us, how bad we are seen in the world, etc. I, on the contrary love to hear in the Arab outlets how we control the world, the banks, Hollywood. This makes me feel strong
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 23:29 |
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Section 31 posted:Some folks will probably believe that every "bad thing" is courtesy of the Great Evil USA To be fair, the Middle East has relatively recent examples they can point to where Western intelligence agencies were involved in uprisings, revolts, and armed groups. It didn't help that during the Cold War the US and Soviets actively fed rumors that the CIA/KGB were behind everything even if there was no evidence. Combine with that the fact that the leadership of these countries also aren't very interested in keeping their citizens well informed.
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# ? Aug 17, 2014 03:50 |
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Islamic state isis came from the syrian opposition right? Those groups were funded, armed and probably trained by the USA and no doubt the CIA was involved. People were warning at the time that some of these groups were even more extreme than Al Qaeda...
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# ? Aug 17, 2014 20:07 |
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JFairfax posted:Islamic state isis came from the syrian opposition right? Those groups were funded, armed and probably trained by the USA and no doubt the CIA was involved. Pretty sure they are a loose coalition of every sunni hosed over in any way since Saddam was toppled. Such as old army officers who were fired and banned from their work by Bush and Friends pooling their stategic planning with local militia recruiters and so on.
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# ? Aug 17, 2014 23:32 |
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That certainly seems to be a good proportion of their base, but also: Away from the publicised gains, Isis is quietly making progress on other fronts. Perhaps the most worrying is the fact that armed groups backed by the US have been co-opted by Isis. After its sweeping military success in Iraq in June, Isis moved to take over the strategic province in Deir Ezzor, where the rebels controlled lucrative oil and gas resources. To the surprise of many, the group quickly controlled towns and villages that were home to some of the group's most powerful adversaries, including Jabhat al-Nusra and locally rooted tribal militias. According to Samer al-Ani, an opposition media activist from Deir Ezzor, several fighting groups affiliated to the western-backed Military Council worked discreetly with Isis, even before the group's latest offensive. Liwa al-Ansar and Liwa Jund al-Aziz, he said, pledged allegiance to Isis in secret, with reports that Isis is using them to put down a revolt by the Sha'itat tribe near the Iraqi border. He warned that money being sent through members of the National Coalition to rebels in Deir Ezzor risks going to Isis. Another source from Deir Ezzor said that these groups pledged loyalty to Isis four months ago, so this was not forced as a result of Isis's latest push, as happened elsewhere. Such collaboration was key to the takeover of Deir Ezzor in recent weeks, especially in areas where Isis could not defeat the local forces so easily. This is not the first, or the only, time in which groups affiliated to the military structures backed by the US and the Gulf states have worked with Isis. Saddam al-Jamal, a top commander for the Free Syrian Army's eastern front, pledged allegiance to Isis in November and fought in its ranks, wreaking a grisly carnage in his hometown of Abu Kamal in April. Other groups affiliated to the western-backed military councils that have pledged allegiance to Isis include Liwa Fajr al-Islam in Homs. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/10/isis-syria-iraq-barack-obama-airstrikes
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# ? Aug 17, 2014 23:47 |
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Moderate, secular groups within the Syrian opposition were "backed" by the US and Europe insofar that western leaders were sort-of maybe admitting in public that they sort-of hoped these guys would win. Moderate opposition groups received a little non-weapon aid like radios and medical supplies, and a load of outdated weapons from what, the Balkans? Isis isn't part of the Syrian opposition so much as they are slowly killing off every other opposition group. They're well known for preferring to attack other opposition groups over regime forces. They're bankrolled by wealthy saudis, armed to the teeth, and veterans of a decade of fighting US forces in Iraq. Calling them "funded, armed and probably trained by the USA" is so loving wrong I don't even know where to start...
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# ? Aug 19, 2014 09:55 |
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Not modern or very political but I think I found my new favorite conspiracy theory. Jack The Ripper was Hitler quote:
http://deep-high.blogspot.ca/2008/06/who-was-really-hitler.html
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 01:13 |
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I stopped reading that part way through, does it address the fact that Prince Albert was 25 years older than Hitler?
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:00 |
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Hitler was born after at least a few of the ripper killings. Or is he claiming Prince Albert killed the real baby Hitler and took his place like some kind of super-spy?
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:04 |
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65=PRINCE. Well you've sold me.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:06 |
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I feel really stupid pointing out individual things wrong with that post, but....quote:Thus Adolf and Eva Braun did not have offspring neither, that would give away Dna evidence as well. Adolf and Eva decided against having kids because they didn't want to leave DNA evidence. DNA evidence in the 1940s.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:14 |
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quote:Hitler was a "good architect" (in his own words). How come? Unless he was Prince Albert student of Architecture of course. I'm partial to this particular deduction myself.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:20 |
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I don't know why but the funniest part of that to me was the 'the famous "Prince Albert Piercing" in the Penis gland' First of all, penis gland? That has all sorts of other implications (a misspelling of course but funny). I do love how it always eventually comes down to dicks. Maybe reptillians actually have their prostrate in the glans???!!! Just asking questions here guys.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 02:21 |
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muscles like this? posted:I stopped reading that part way through, does it address the fact that Prince Albert was 25 years older than Hitler? That's why Hitler was going seemingly crazy later in the war (typical old guy senility). Duhhh
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 04:24 |
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My favourite *conspiracy connections* thing I saw recently was this one:woozle wuzzle posted:Today I was paid to spend about 2 hours with an aforementioned sovereign citizen client. He was serious as a heart attack while telling me about the following: Simply because I have not a clue about what should spring to the eye at that point. It is linked to this kind of conspiratorial thinking: http://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States http://xi4.com/2012/08/04/the-hidde...wns-us-and-how/ Munin fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Aug 20, 2014 |
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Munin posted:My favourite *conspiracy connections* thing I saw recently was this one: There are three stars and a cross on the stylized pope hat on the Vatican flag. Clearly, a grand conspiracy.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 14:58 |
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And the fact that DC's flag resembles Washington's coat of arms is proof that it's been going on for centuries.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 17:17 |
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Nckdictator posted:Not modern or very political but I think I found my new favorite conspiracy theory. How loving sick in the head do you have to be to believe this? How much effort would it take to hide all the "clues" found in the theory given here? “Ok, I want to hide a specific number as a clue, so find me a name based on a very loose system of coded math… then break it down till you end up with two digits. Then reverse those digits.. for no reason”
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 18:17 |
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Chupe Raho Aurat posted:How loving sick in the head do you have to be to believe this? How much effort would it take to hide all the "clues" found in the theory given here? Schizophrenia
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 20:26 |
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Chupe Raho Aurat posted:How loving sick in the head do you have to be to believe this? How much effort would it take to hide all the "clues" found in the theory given here? Still more plausible than 9/11 being done by space lasers and actors.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 20:34 |
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I don't see any gold fringe on those flags, not a real sovereign citizen.
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# ? Aug 20, 2014 20:57 |
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I saw a sovereign citizen get their car towed today, they were bleating on about how they don't even need plates. Big black truck dude didn't give a gently caress..
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 13:31 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:Does anyone know of any good video rebuttals to the whole "Loose Change" stuff? My Pop, in his retirements years, has taken to watching lots of documentaries and has for some reason taken a shine to the LC videos. Dunno why, he's usually more skeptical than that. Anyways, any links I could send him would be cool. http://screwloosechange.blogspot.be/ https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/#Video
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 13:32 |
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It might also help to tell him that the first version of LC was created as a fictionally writing exercise, then the creator (Dylan Avery) was approached by a crazy rich man that offered him an enormous sum of money if he could find proof that LC was actually true. What a surprise! The "creative writing exercise" turned out to be completely accurate!! The creator of LC also does not believe the holocaust happened. Also Dylan (as of 2013) admits he does not believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy ideas presented in LC
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 14:57 |
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So, a person I know wants "validation" that flouridated toothpaste is actually insanely poisonous and NO ONE KNOWZ AOUBT IT, linking to an article that, among other neat claims, said that flouride "calcifies your pineal gland, rendering it docile", and kept ignoring people telling her it was bunk. She's involved with scientology, too, so I guess that's kind of a lost cause. I grew up in the 80s, and it was pretty commonly accepted back then that flouride was both good and bad, but I guess a lot of it was due to my parents generation being impressionable hippies. Flour isn't bad for me, is it? Chupe Raho Aurat posted:Also Dylan (as of 2013) admits he does not believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy ideas presented in LC Yo Chupe, we miss you in the psych ward thread!
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 16:57 |
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Chupe Raho Aurat posted:I saw a sovereign citizen get their car towed today, they were bleating on about how they don't even need plates. I love everything about this post.
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 16:59 |
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Tias posted:I grew up in the 80s, and it was pretty commonly accepted back then that flouride was both good and bad, but I guess a lot of it was due to my parents generation being impressionable hippies. Flour isn't bad for me, is it? Well you know how all those gluten free products are becoming available now? It's because the SHEEPLE are waking up, and the megacorps have to respond by toning down the Big Gov gluten mind control serums they put in cereal! (I have no idea if this is a real conspiracy or not, but I'm ---- OH wait quick google search says it basically is: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/04/can-eating-this-common-grain-cause-psychiatric-problems.aspx http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/symptomsofceliacdisease/a/Celiac-Disease-Brain-Fog.htm) BRAIN FOG!!!
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Mercury_Storm posted:Well you know how all those gluten free products are becoming available now? It's because the SHEEPLE are waking up, and the megacorps have to respond by toning down the Big Gov gluten mind control serums they put in cereal! Ah yes, "the itis", well known CIA FBI KKK conspiracy to suppress the masses
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 18:42 |
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Tias posted:So, a person I know wants "validation" that flouridated toothpaste is actually insanely poisonous and NO ONE KNOWZ AOUBT IT, linking to an article that, among other neat claims, said that flouride "calcifies your pineal gland, rendering it docile", and kept ignoring people telling her it was bunk. She's involved with scientology, too, so I guess that's kind of a lost cause. Fluoride is highly poisonous, but only in quantities vastly larger than are in water/toothpaste. But that is why you're not supposed to swallow your toothpaste.
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 18:43 |
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Begemot posted:Fluoride is highly poisonous, but only in quantities vastly larger than are in water/toothpaste. But that is why you're not supposed to swallow your toothpaste. But how else will I clean my lungs?
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# ? Aug 21, 2014 19:02 |
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Sir Tonk posted:But how else will I clean my lungs? With cigarettes, what else? Do you even pay attention to the surgeon general?
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Out of amusement, I've been watching a show on Netflix called "Unsealed: Conspiracy Files" or something like that. I'm quite amazed (maybe I shouldn't be) that the conspiracy crowd thinks that government weather control is a thing. I mean, I'm no scientist, but it seems like if you wanted to engineer something like a tornado or a tsunami, it would take a crazy amount of energy. But then again, I guess if you've taken a dive into the conspiracy pool you could just say that they've been harnessing the power of red mercury or something.
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