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what are you talking about the stock market is v rational. anyway i got a really bad ant problem, but i put a tiny little sign out next to my sugar bowl that says "this sugar is not valuable for a number of reasons" so i think that'll fix it
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Pinterest Mom posted:reminder that stocks are impossible to predict and it's impossible to tell if warren buffet is good or merely lucky buffet basically has his own uncertainty principle going on where his very presence effects how the stock market works this is only because he's worth several billion dollars though
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post iun the apple is collapsing thread for stock chat
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Pinterest Mom posted:reminder that stocks are impossible to predict and it's impossible to tell if warren buffet is good or merely lucky buffet doesn't play stocks though he buys companies
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Aug 20, 2014 01:10
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hobbesmaster posted:buffet doesn't play stocks though he buys companies no you don't understand it's IMPOSSIBLE!!!
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Aug 20, 2014 02:02
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its easy to be a 'good' 'investor' when you have billions of dollars, immense clout, notoriety, and a cult of personality
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Aug 20, 2014 02:04
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lol cremnob so mad
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my understanding is for most of his career buffet bought companies that, if you liquidated them, would still be worth more than their market cap idk if that's true or if he still does that (i assume no) but still
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Cold on a Cob posted:my understanding is for most of his career buffet bought companies that, if you liquidated them, would still be worth more than their market cap Buffett invests in companies that have solid product fundamentals but have operational efficiencies to unlock with access to capital and more financially savvy management. he buys companies to keeps them running and improve them and doesn't fire employees. this is basically the opposite of corporate raiders that want to break up a company for quick profits.
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The Management posted:Buffett invests in companies that have solid product fundamentals but have operational efficiencies to unlock with access to capital and more financially savvy management. he buys companies to keeps them running and improve them and doesn't fire employees.
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The Management posted:Buffett invests in companies that have solid product fundamentals but have operational efficiencies to unlock with access to capital and more financially savvy management. he buys companies to keeps them running and improve them and doesn't fire employees. that jives with what i read about him, cool
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Aug 20, 2014 03:22
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let's not overlook the importance of the deal he cut with satan
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duTrieux. posted:let's not overlook the importance of the deal he cut with satan buying a controlling share in the first three circles has been quite profitable
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FMguru posted:yeah, apparently buffett beats the odds as an investor because hes not just investing, usually hes taking over and managing, and it seems he does have a replicable formula for success when it comes to building up underachieving (and underpriced) companies he (and munger) also still do a lot of stock investing (with the two stock guys he hired in the past few years), and it is still a significant part of BH, but unlike my title suggesting it's all about low price to book it's basically the amount of free cash flow the business can generate going forward, coupled with a solid understanding of the way the actual business functions so as to avoid mistakes and ensure the business has a competitive moat. if that all checks out you judge your potential future % gain based on the current stock price to determine if the value is there in those cases he doesn't do any management or change anything at all (it's a stock investment just like you or i would make). however if i'm company management at, say, IBM i probably feel a bit of pressure knowing that he is picking up shares it's actually pretty easy to understand what value investors like buffet are looking for but as another poster noted it's a super boring way to invest (reading sec filings blows) so most people just buy whatever is "hot" and ultimately lose money
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Aug 20, 2014 19:32
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verizowned
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i for one welcome our monopoly overlords to die in a fire
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Aug 20, 2014 20:33
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cremnob posted:
holy poo poo goog will be boned, the vast majority of android app sales/downloads go to people who don't have any idea "which store" to get stuff from, and the carriers will surely feature theirs front and center. even if they are presented equally average person will think "i use verizon better click this 'verizon store' button". worse for google is them losing a tracking metric for their mobile users (what apps does this person like so we can pass that to advertisers)
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Ben Grahams Ghost posted:holy poo poo goog will be boned, the vast majority of android app sales/downloads go to people who don't have any idea "which store" to get stuff from, and the carriers will surely feature theirs front and center. even if they are presented equally average person will think "i use verizon better click this 'verizon store' button". worse for google is them losing a tracking metric for their mobile users (what apps does this person like so we can pass that to advertisers) lol u think this
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Aug 20, 2014 22:07
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how many different app stores can you install on an anroid
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thats not a joke or anything it just seems like a profoundly lovely experience
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Ben Grahams Ghost posted:holy poo poo goog will be boned, the vast majority of android app sales/downloads go to people who don't have any idea "which store" to get stuff from, and the carriers will surely feature theirs front and center. even if they are presented equally average person will think "i use verizon better click this 'verizon store' button". worse for google is them losing a tracking metric for their mobile users (what apps does this person like so we can pass that to advertisers) we're almost circled back around to the j2me stores of yesteryear. hail satan.
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the play store is good. i get apps off it, and shows and stuff. they get shows and movies for good price rental like 3 bucks pretty quick idk how bt they do. shaggar convinced me to watcht he epic fail show THE LAST SHIP and i did it on the play store and also i bought the GI joe mobie when i was really durnk for 15 bucks in glorious hd. also i have both slingbox apps 1 tablet 1 phone those mother fuckers
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Beeftweeter posted:thats not a joke or anything it just seems like a profoundly lovely experience eventually someone will start curating app stores and charging a premium for it, leading to an app store store
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Aug 20, 2014 22:55
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welcome to the bap store
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subscribe to verizon apps for only $4 a week and receive a new game and ringtone every month!!!
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Beeftweeter posted:how many different app stores can you install on an anroid you can install as many as you please but your average person isn't going to use anything more than built in google store and maybe amazon store ultramiraculous posted:we're almost circled back around to the j2me stores of yesteryear. nah
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compuserved posted:welcome to the bap store ill take the engorged saggy black ones, please. thanks. do you take discover?
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compuserved posted:welcome to the bap store ill have a sausage bap
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Athletic Footjob posted:ill have a sausage bap mods pls
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cremnob posted:
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Cardboard Box A posted:Wait why the gently caress were carriers getting a revenue split in the first place? i would bet carriers try to get money every chance they can
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Nintendo Kid posted:you can install as many as you please but your average person isn't going to use anything more than built in google store and maybe amazon store until the carriers set up their shop on the home screen and relegate the play store to the app list lol if you think the average poor that walks into a store and strides proudly out with their free flavor of the month android pos is going to have any idea there are stores, plural, they'll use the thing that is right there under the second clock
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Cardboard Box A posted:Wait why the gently caress were carriers getting a revenue split in the first place? because anroid was only successful because carriers allowed them to be. i dont think people realize how much power carriers have and in every non-iphone phone, they're the customer.
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Smythe posted:shaggar convinced me to watcht he epic fail show THE LAST SHIP lol
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Aug 21, 2014 00:32
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the last ship is so bad but its bad in a way that hasn't happened in decades.
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the good guys are sooo loving good and the bad guys are so loving bad
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Aug 21, 2014 00:33
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Shaggar posted:the good guys are sooo loving good and the bad guys are so loving bad is that the one where theres some weird virus and the people are on the boat and they want to stop the virus
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yeah.
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the virus does not make zombies so its ahead of 99.9999999% of post apocalyptic stuff
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