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Kim Jong ill posted:I'm getting pictures on my news feed of a student who was trampled by police horses. I did note when I was looking at pictures that whoever set up the fence put the little stabilising triangle segments on the wrong side (i.e. to resist people pushing out, not in) and I'm not surprised they managed to tip it over. Oh so the turned violent must have meant because of the police. That makes sense.
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Beetfauxnen posted:Oh so the turned violent must have meant because of the police. That makes sense.
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Mad Katter posted:I hate police horses. get those animals etc.
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Quantum Mechanic posted:get those animals etc.
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Captain Pissweak posted:Okay now yeah that's really hosed up. My understanding is he punched the wall on one side of her head and then punched the wall on the other side of her head. The honourable Anthony Abbott , Prime Minister.
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Mad Katter posted:I hate police horses. Blaming the poor animals isn't cool 
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Beetfauxnen posted:Oh so the turned violent must have meant because of the police. That makes sense. This is literally 99% of 'protests turned violent', they turn violent because the police are fascist pigs with inferiority complexes who look for any opportunity to exercise power over someone as a substitute for having any self esteem of their own.
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Mad Katter posted:I hate police horses. They really hate it when you chuck a handful of marbles under them. At least thats what an anti-Vietnam war protest veteran told me once.
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Comstar posted:I don't get it? Abbott looking stressed? He looks like Hitler
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gay picnic defence posted:He looks like Hitler A stressed Hitler
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Gough Suppressant posted:A stressed Hitler First thing I noticed was the guy standing creepily close right behind him.
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NTRabbit posted:Blaming the poor animals isn't cool Yeah, they serve no other purpose than to run people down and trample on them. gently caress that. They also parade around public places and literally poo poo all over the floor, which is a huge display of contempt for the public. The animals aren't really to blame for either of these things, but I don't have to like it. If the police really loved horses/dogs or whatever animals they use, then they wouldn't put them in direct danger.
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Election 2016: A Rapist or Hitler.
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Dickheads posted:Crikey owner Private Media and News Corp reach legal agreement
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Adelaide protest was small and tame. Couple of decent speeches and a variety of mixed messages but reasonably on target. Horses were unnecessary and did nothing but make a couple of pasty dudes with guy fawkes facial hair feel vindicated for screaming "You're an evil human being" at cops calmly guarding the entrance earlier. Left after the old white dudes had shuffled out so I didn't see anything after that. When did the trampling happen? They knocked down a fence because it was poorly erected and unsupervised, not that it mattered since 5 meters further along you could just step under some orange hazard flags to get into the same area. The cops on guard duty looked bored and I have no idea why they bothered with horses. Felt like both sides were hoping the other would start something and were mildly disappointed when no one did. Glad I went but it had a kind of lacklustre feel to it since it seemed like people were actually waiting for Abbott to make an appearance (lol) .
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Lizard Combatant posted:Glad I went but it had a kind of lacklustre feel to it since it seemed like people were actually waiting for Abbott to make an appearance (lol) . Initially I was disappointed that I had work things on, but thus makes me feel better about it. Good on you for going though.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Crikey and News media
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So I don't particularly remember, what was in it? It had to have been good to produce that response.
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Cleretic posted:So I don't particularly remember, what was in it? It had to have been good to produce that response. Something along the lines that News' print and digital media are dropping in revenue and The Australian lost $27 million last year.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Something along the lines that News' print and digital media are dropping in revenue and The Australian lost $27 million last year. Well there's this Guardian article which gives a overview. Basically the big thing they were hiding is loss of advertising revenue, and how the Australian has been kept going by funding from other parts of the business. And the fact that it was a detailed comparison between 2012 and 2013 figures.
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Okay, I was figuring it was maybe an ethical issue, or a detailing of shady business practices or lack of journalistic integrity. I should've figured that it would have to be something as simple as 'saying they're losing money'.
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I don't think the Australian has ever been profitable, certainly not for decades, but its always been Murdoch's baby. It's sort of an ethical issues as they hide losses so the shareholders don't demand action, but lots of companies do it and no one really cares.
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Also, everyone knew they were losing money, but nobody knew how much and from where. Or that while they were making fun of Fairfax, they were apparently doing even worse business-wise.
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Plus News Corp is being hammered with the legal costs of fighting the hacking cases - which are still going strong. Going by what Media Watch has been mentioning I suspect that the future would be most metropolitan newspapers end up sharing and recycling content while The Australian tries to prop-up with it's national focus, while shrinking in paper size. Of course trying to sell online papers to a demographic who mostly see technology as something magical that only the younger generation can understand hasn't helped. Conversely shifting news behind paywalls for younger audience hasn't helped as they assume news is free.
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I think we'll probably see even more of a shift away from news. News.com is already lovely click bait, they're trying to compete with the Mail now so it really is a race to the bottom. It will be interesting due to the influence the papers have. A huge reason the Australian is still around is that Murdoch prides his influence over anything else. He'll probably be long gone though by the time it comes to a shitfight with the shareholders.
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Don't overlook the other thing that Crikey reported on today, namely that the employees at the News tabloids are now well aware of how much they're propping up the Oz, both in covering losses as well as paying a much higher average salary by comparison. The damage to the organisation will run deeper as more and more journalists become disillusioned with the disparity.
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It's apparently also stirred up journalists, because the ones at the Oz are getting paid significantly more than the ones at papers that are actually making money.
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Yeah the whole industry is slowly collapsing into a general value-add to wire services. There'll still be news organizations that are independently funded like the Guardian and Al Jazeera. I can see the wire services themselves eventually being squeezed by economic pressure from tv and print news needing to further cut corners too. There's little money in internet news either, god knows where that will devolve. I do wonder if there will be a war on bloggers, they're a very unwelcome problem for media management.Murodese posted:It's apparently also stirred up journalists, because the ones at the Oz are getting paid significantly more than the ones at papers that are actually making money. It's a symptom of this whole thing. Not even Murdoch can keep this up forever.
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The interesting thing is the feeding frenzy for clickbait will actually foster a drive for the more "intellectual" news outlets, so there's a possibility the Australian will survive by a desire to be actually informed. The race to the bottom, however, is further fueled by social media relinking "shocking!" news headlines and saucy galleries. I suspect NewsCorp is using as much of the revenue out of news.com.au to keep the rest of the ship afloat. Another interesting tactic I've noticed are articles that have links referencing themselves, or recycling through the "related" or "recommended" articles where they have been given a different title. Blog-news seems to sit in the middle. At times you have excellent and well researched articles, at the other time you have things like IA and Crikey that tend to end up as soapboxes for disgruntled journos or washouts like Ellis. Nick Davies' Flat Earth News does an excellent history on the decline of the press, opening up with The Australia's campaign against Whitlam.
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I was at the protest and contributed to the fence knocking-down. It was actually a really good protest, probably the most active I've ever seen in Adelaide. Of course, it didn't "turn violent", the 6 mounted riot police in a cramped space trampled a couple of people and did nothing to help them afterwards. Of course the advertiser will tell it differently but there you go.
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Murodese posted:It's apparently also stirred up journalists, because the ones at the Oz are getting paid significantly more than the ones at papers that are actually making money. Gotta spend money to lose money. Its not surprising that Rupes is footing a higher operating budget for his personal favourite masthead. Too bad that keeping up appearances for a big shot billionaire such as himself will turn him into just another 'temporarily embarrassed millionaire'. It sucks that he will probably die before his dead tree empire crumble to dust.
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WebDog posted:The interesting thing is the feeding frenzy for clickbait will actually foster a drive for the more "intellectual" news outlets, so there's a possibility the Australian will survive by a desire to be actually informed. The clickbait stuff is further assisted by the rise of Content Delivery Platforms like OutBrain etc, that basically turn the bottom of any nominated article into a web-ring portal (what a 2014 idea).
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Nuclear Spy posted:I was there for a bit, it was fun booing at the old white men walking through temporary fence to get into the building. A Young Liberal in a suit and blue tie went in that got a lot of heat, a lot of 'Tory Scum!' chants too. Isn't horse trampling taking things a bit far, like recklessly causing injury or something? It's not like cops are ever allowed to run people over in their cars, and horses could easily kill someone or cause serious injury if they stepped on the wrong bit. It's not like a baton charge where highly trained officers execute non-lethal force to targeted areas of the body, there's no control over where horse feet go.
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If a cop ran over a student in a car instead of a horse, the outrage would be equally as non-existent. Politically-engaged students deserve whatever the get from the Brave Boys in Blue
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