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Uznare posted:Ashita no Joe is not licensed, so you'll have to find a way to watch that. Crunchyroll only has the second half of the show (which was made a decade later). Your way works too posted:Alright I have a bit of tough one for you guys but I have faith you guys will kill it. a kitten posted:You should also read Town of Evening Calm, Country of Cherry Blossoms it starts in Hiroshima in 1955 and ends in 2004. It is only one volume long so hopefully you won't have the same problem with flagging interest due to the time skips.
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Insurrectionist posted:I thought there was plenty of focus on the war myself. Probably the best handling of war in an anime that I've seen too, given (mega-spoilers, do not read) it correctly doesn't dwell on the result of the war, but rather the reasons behind it and the consequences it brings, and shows every side as varying degrees of sympathetic without trying to make you cheer against the protagonists. The war was certainly not irrelevant, true, but I would reiterate that the main focus of Simoun wasn't on how the fighting progressed.Given that at least a couple of major developments happen mostly off-screen or are only discussed by the characters in passing. You're rightfully pointing out that we do get some context for the conflict though, and the consequences are explored even when it's finally over, but most of the screen time is used to develop the cast and deal with their own personal issues. In terms of sympathy, I think they did a good job humanizing the enemy priestesses and showing their cultural differences, but could have tried to widen the scope a little more. In any case, I agree that it's an interesting series and worth checking out. wielder fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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wielder posted:The war was certainly not irrelevant, true, but I would reiterate that the main focus of Simoun wasn't on how the fighting progressed.Given that at least a couple of major developments happen mostly off-screen or are only discussed by the characters in passing. You're rightfully pointing out that we do get some context for the conflict though, and the consequences are explored even when it's finally over, but most of the screen time is used to develop the cast and deal with their own personal issues. In terms of sympathy, I think they did a good job humanizing the enemy priestesses and showing their cultural differences, but could have tried to widen the scope a little more. In any case, I agree that it's an interesting series and worth checking out. War spoilers. Eh, I don't really think that represents a lack of focus on the war overall, so much as making a conscious decision to focus on certain parts of it. The personal side of war was what the show thought was important, and thought it would benefit from showing, and part of that is because Simulacrum losing was explicitly portrayed as a positive thing, so framing the war on a national/macro-scale from Simulacrum's perspective would heavily muddle the messages and themes of the show while distracting from the interpersonal relationship stuff. Instead it focused on the personal side of the conflict. I mean, practically the entire plot is focused on the war. Certainly the characters and their interactions are huge parts of the series, and it explores a lot of other things like gender, religion, etc, but plot-wise it's almost all war. I don't think just because it didn't have a war-room and it didn't end with a climactic battle, it wasn't a focus.
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At this point I suppose we're just choosing to frame and emphasize things a little differently. One way or another, it is indeed a series where the personal side of the war was the important part, as you've said. That's also why I think the characters are at its core. It's a portrayal that the viewers used to more traditional representations of war in anime might find refreshing, as well as those who aren't particularly interested in warfare to begin with.
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It's decent. I certainly don't regret watching it, but there's bound to be other shows you haven't seen that are more worth your time.
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I dunno the last two or three episodes of Another had some of the best unintentional (???) comedy I've ever seen.
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I think Another probably worked fine as a book, and could maybe have been a decent movie, but I don't think it worked as a series.
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Sakurazuka posted:I dunno the last two or three episodes of Another had some of the best unintentional (???) comedy I've ever seen.
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Blood-C definitely struck me as someone trying to salvage abysmal source material with humor and self-awareness, and then failing because they couldn't actually get away with very much.
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Wasn't Blood-C an original project? Unless you're counting the 2000 Blood:tLV film as source material, in which case I take exception to that 
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Maybe he meant the other Blood TV series that was so boring I can't remember anything about it. At least I'll never forget the last episode of Blood-C. 
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Redcrimson posted:Wasn't Blood-C an original project? Unless you're counting the 2000 Blood:tLV film as source material, in which case I take exception to that
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Guyver posted:It is. It may not have proper source material like a book or comic but Blood-C was created by Clamp for IG. So I doubt they were making the show by the seat of their pants like most original TV anime. Didn't Clamp just do the character designs, like they did with Code Geass?
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Strange Quark posted:Didn't Clamp just do the character designs, like they did with Code Geass? I believe one of them actually wrote Blood-C.
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wielder posted:I believe one of them actually wrote Blood-C. Huh, apparently so. Mea culpa.
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a kitten posted:I think Another probably worked fine as a book, and could maybe have been a decent movie, but I don't think it worked as a series. I know Yenpress has published a digital version of Another, but are there plans to release a print version? Does anyone have opinions on the novel vs the manga?
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wielder posted:I believe one of them actually wrote Blood-C. Saya actually goes to Yuuko's Wish Shop from xxxHolic. in the movie. Yes, that does theoretically retcon Blood: the Last Vampire into the same fictional universe as Cardcaptor Sakura.
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Hi, non-anime fan here. I'm not very big on anime, but I watched a couple recently on netflix that were great and I want to see more like them. I watched Samurai Champloo which was really good, and also Trigun and the trigun movie, which I also thought was really good. I've also been watching Space Dandy as it comes out and I love it, and I know Watanabe made Cowboy Bebop and everyone is going to recommend I should watch that, and I'm going to. But aside from Cowboy Bebop, any other kind of good comedy/action animes that aren't about high schoolers? My friend tried to get me into Kill la Kill but I never really got it. I watched Attack on Titan too which was OK i guess. Bonus points if it's on Netflix, but from what I can tell most of what netflix has looks bad. also dubs>subs if possible
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mabels big day posted:But aside from Cowboy Bebop, any other kind of good comedy/action animes that aren't about high schoolers? Is Tiger and Bunny on netflix? I know it's on hulu. Whatever, you should watch it anyways.
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mabels big day posted:Hi, non-anime fan here. I'm not very big on anime, but I watched a couple recently on netflix that were great and I want to see more like them. I watched Samurai Champloo which was really good, and also Trigun and the trigun movie, which I also thought was really good. I've also been watching Space Dandy as it comes out and I love it, and I know Watanabe made Cowboy Bebop and everyone is going to recommend I should watch that, and I'm going to. Watch Black Lagoon or Gurren Lagaan. Trigun: Badlands Rumble was good fun, but it seems weird that it was created. It doesn't really do anything to extend the anime's storyline, it's just something that could easily have been slotted in as three/four episodes somewhere midway through the series.
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Baccano! is great and has an amazing dub. It might be on Netflix? They rotate their animes fairly often...yeah, looks like it's not. It's on Hulu, though! Let's see, opening up Netflix Anime...these aren't all action/comedy, just good stuff in general. Psycho-Pass is on there and a lot of folks around here like it; I haven't seen it. Dub is available. This is action/suspense. Attack on Titan, likewise, is there and is well-liked around here. Subs only. Action. Eden of the East is on there and dubbed. It's quite good but not perfect if you want relationship drama and conspiracy thriller. Princess Jellyfish is on there and dubbed, and is a shoujo show so it's also going to be about relationships, but in a different way. Spice and Wolf is on there and dubbed. It's quite good but slow-paced relationship stuff in a fantasy world. (Also, economics.) Fullmetal Alchemist (and FMA: Brotherhood) are both on there. They're both actiony and have comedy, but may not be your cup of tea. Technically, no high schoolers, but they're that age. Also, yeah, seconding Black Lagoon, you'll love it.
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mabels big day posted:Hi, non-anime fan here. I'm not very big on anime, but I watched a couple recently on netflix that were great and I want to see more like them. I watched Samurai Champloo which was really good, and also Trigun and the trigun movie, which I also thought was really good. I've also been watching Space Dandy as it comes out and I love it, and I know Watanabe made Cowboy Bebop and everyone is going to recommend I should watch that, and I'm going to. It's not comedy and questionably action, but Death Note is basically my go-to rec for people who don't like or watch anime. It's on Netflix with both Japanese and English audio options, and though I haven't seen much of it, I hear the dub is very good.
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mabels big day posted:Hi, non-anime fan here. I'm not very big on anime, but I watched a couple recently on netflix that were great and I want to see more like them. I watched Samurai Champloo which was really good, and also Trigun and the trigun movie, which I also thought was really good. I've also been watching Space Dandy as it comes out and I love it, and I know Watanabe made Cowboy Bebop and everyone is going to recommend I should watch that, and I'm going to. Black Lagoon, Tiger and Bunny, Outlaw Star are basically the same genre as Watanabe's stuff / Trigun. Psycho-Pass and Ghost in the Shell are more drama/suspense than comedy. Terror in Resonance and Kids on the Slope were also made by Watanabe and are supposedly pretty good, although also more drama than comedy. Death Note is similar except more for kids/young teenagers/14 year olds. Fullmetal Alchemist (Brotherhood, I haven't seen the original but I think most people agree it's not as good, also it's not in HD) is an action show mostly for that kids demographic, but is very good. I'd compare it favorably to Avatar/Korra. Both Death Note and Fullmetal Alchemist are not like the stuff I'm assuming you're referring to when you say "about high schoolers", they're more like Attack on Titan. Gurren Lagann is sort of like Kill la Kill except less pornographic. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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What is the consensus on Tokyo Ghoul? I couldn't find a page for it on the Wiki.
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Butt Ghost posted:What is the consensus on Tokyo Ghoul? I couldn't find a page for it on the Wiki. While I haven't seen it, I hear it starts extremely strong and then shits the bed so hard it's incredible. So skip it.
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Thanks for the recs everyone, I'll be sure to check them all out. I keep putting off watching all of Utena because I watched up to episode 30 at some point and dropped it. I'm kind of dreading watching all the filler-ish episodes again but if it means I get to listen to those  battle themes more it can't be too bad.
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Man, you only had like 9 episodes left to go.  Also you can watch the movie any time you like since it's an alternate retelling, in some ways I prefer it to the series.
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Okay, just how skeevy is Monogatari? It has a thread here in ADTRW and is supposedly good but the wiki has a gem of a review about it being "harem anime for the sophisticated pedophile". I watched the first episode and it did not seem bad although I can believe it gets (much) worse.
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mabels big day posted:Hi, non-anime fan here. I'm not very big on anime, but I watched a couple recently on netflix that were great and I want to see more like them. I watched Samurai Champloo which was really good, and also Trigun and the trigun movie, which I also thought was really good. I've also been watching Space Dandy as it comes out and I love it, and I know Watanabe made Cowboy Bebop and everyone is going to recommend I should watch that, and I'm going to. Michiko to Hatchin is very much in the same genre as Champloo and Trigun. icantfindaname posted:Fullmetal Alchemist (Brotherhood, I haven't seen the original but I think most people agree it's not as good, also it's not in HD) is an action show mostly for that kids demographic, but is very good. I'd compare it favorably to Avatar/Korra. Uh, I wouldn't really say FMAB is for kids. Like, teenagers sure, but not kids. One of the major factors driving the plot is a brutal ethnic genocide half of the main characters were involved in and it gets pretty brutal in the last half when it comes to violence. Also I have no clue why people recommend TTGL to people new to anime. It's a show pretty much based on the idea that you will be familiar with genre cliches from giant robot anime.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Also I have no clue why people recommend TTGL to people new to anime. It's a show pretty much based on the idea that you will be familiar with genre cliches from giant robot anime. I know a couple of people who watched it as their first anime and enjoyed it. Then they started watching other stuff and had a good time being able to say "Oh, so that's where that thing in TTGL comes from!" It's the kind of thing that can work backwards.
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It's perfectly possible to like TTGL just for robots hitting each other. I watched and enjoyed Evangelion way before I'd see any of the mecha shows it was referencing/parodying/subverting (delete as applicable).
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icantfindaname posted:Okay, just how skeevy is Monogatari? It has a thread here in ADTRW and is supposedly good but the wiki has a gem of a review about it being "harem anime for the sophisticated pedophile". I watched the first episode and it did not seem bad although I can believe it gets (much) worse. The first season, Bakemonogatari, isn't that bad. The snail and snake girls have some troubling bits to them but nothing that will make you turn the show off. I didn't watch anything after that though because before I started on the second season I saw the gif of the main character basically mouth loving his sister with a toothbrush. So go ahead and watch the first series and skip the rest.
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icantfindaname posted:Okay, just how skeevy is Monogatari? It has a thread here in ADTRW and is supposedly good but the wiki has a gem of a review about it being "harem anime for the sophisticated pedophile". I watched the first episode and it did not seem bad although I can believe it gets (much) worse. It crosses a lot of pretty gross lines and then goes "of course Araragi doesn't actually mean it." So depending on whether you believe him or not, this protagonist you're supposed to identify with is either an incestuous pedophilic toothbrushing fetishist or just a teenager with massive personal boundary issues.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:It crosses a lot of pretty gross lines and then goes "of course Araragi doesn't actually mean it." So depending on whether you believe him or not, this protagonist you're supposed to identify with is either an incestuous pedophilic toothbrushing fetishist or just a teenager with massive personal boundary issues. Okay I watched the scene in question on youtube (probably a bad idea yes) and holy poo poo . Is this a one time thing or is there more stuff like this in the series?
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:It crosses a lot of pretty gross lines and then goes "of course Araragi doesn't actually mean it." So depending on whether you believe him or not, this protagonist you're supposed to identify with is either an incestuous pedophilic toothbrushing fetishist or just a teenager with massive personal boundary issues.
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icantfindaname posted:Okay I watched the scene in question on youtube (probably a bad idea yes) and holy poo poo The sister tooth brushing is a one time thing. There's more skeevy stuff but at least in the two seasons I've seen that's the worst it gets (I mean, it goes on the longest and is probably the most uncomfortable). In any case, those scenes, as rightfully infamous as they are, are a very very small part of the series, and you shouldn't let their existence stop you from watching it. Especially the first season, as the scene you saw is in the second.
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