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Brannock posted:I wonder why it isn't dirty tabloid bullshit for one single person to announce to the planet that max temkin allegedly raped a woman in college a decade ago, but it's dirty tabloid bullshit to expose that zoe quinn (by her own admission) repeatedly violated her boyfriend's consent and had unprotected sex with multiple people in a short time period (and chances are good they would not have consented to unprotected sex had they known the facts of what's going on) I just wonder how things would be if Zoe hadn't been in a relationship when she was out there allegedly screwing game journalists and indiecade judges. If the story didn't involve a woman cheating on her boyfriend, would it be newsworthy?
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rainy day posted:the irony is that if misogynist idiots weren't flinging their poo poo everywhere news outlets would probably be more willing to report on whatever newsworthy elements are actually here. lol no they wouldn't also IMO Temkin's rape allegation and Quinn's infidelity are both tabloid bullshit
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Aug 24, 2014 20:43
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The Cuckspiracy did get coverage in both The Daily Beast and Vice, which both largely tiptoed around the boyfriend's allegations and focused on the harassment.
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rainy day posted:the irony is that if misogynist idiots weren't flinging their poo poo everywhere news outlets would probably be more willing to report on whatever newsworthy elements are actually here. Weird I thought they should just do their job but ok.
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rainy day posted:the irony is that if misogynist idiots weren't flinging their poo poo everywhere news outlets would probably be more willing to report on whatever newsworthy elements are actually here. I agree.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:45
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rainy day posted:Temkin responded publicly to allegations of sexual assault. Zoe Quinn was accused of infidelity and has faced a huge amount of harassment. If you think these are at all the same thing you're incredibly loving dumb. Quinn was accused of rape
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Aug 24, 2014 20:45
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rainy day posted:the irony is that if misogynist idiots weren't flinging their poo poo everywhere news outlets would probably be more willing to report on whatever newsworthy elements are actually here. cnn breaking news: female game developer cucks boyfriend at least 5 times, details as the story comes in
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Aug 24, 2014 20:46
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Phil Fish raped my dog. I know because he was wearing a fez. I'm willing to sell interview rights for five bitcoins to whomever calls me first.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:47
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rainy day posted:the irony is that if misogynist idiots weren't flinging their poo poo everywhere news outlets would probably be more willing to report on whatever newsworthy elements are actually here. yeah except when the story first dropped news outlets were totally unwilling to report on it and in fact went to great lengths to cover it up (see: 20k posts deleted by hand) and THEN the poo poo flinging started not excusing misogynist idiots but when the indie dev/sjw/weird incestuous gaming news cabal side of this story actually fails to hold the moral high ground against a bunch of misogynist 14 year olds you know there's a problem
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Aug 24, 2014 20:48
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Maxwell Adams posted:I just wonder how things would be if Zoe hadn't been in a relationship when she was out there allegedly screwing game journalists and indiecade judges. If the story didn't involve a woman cheating on her boyfriend, would it be newsworthy? Switch the genders and you'd still have: 1. Game dev engages in emotional abuse of his partners. Partner reports it. Silenced by community. 2. Woman comes forward to corroborate abuse. She says she was sexually harassed. She's immediately attacked by Phil Fish on twitter. 3. Person posts how they're upset that Game Dev's misbehavior impacted their life. Told by other developers to shut up as game dev has contributed so much to the community. That'd absolutely be newsworthy. And that's before getting into any of the financial stuff.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:48
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never have so many words been written about something so inconsequential
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Aug 24, 2014 20:49
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time to prove how Not Sexist i am by breathlessly defending a revolting excuse of a human being solely because she's a woman
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Aug 24, 2014 20:51
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Check out my new game on Steam Greenlight it's called Rape Quest where you play a female indie game dev and you rape men to get status and control. Use media websites to play the victim and recruit white knights to your cause.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:52
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falcon2424 posted:Switch the genders and you'd still have: ya
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Aug 24, 2014 20:52
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Mulefisk posted:whoever wins we also win because we get to laugh at both sides Yeah I think places like Koatu who had very little real journalist qualities beforehand now look like comedy pun sites, just completely laughable. Phil Fish and his lashing out in Twitter talking about how loving terrible gamers are, who would hire such an emotion driven person who will quit on you in a flash? And quite possibly turn your whole fan base against you in the process. All over some poo poo that really could have been wrapped up in a day if people took responsibility for their actions, apologized and moved on or in Phil's case just kept his stupid mouth shut. It is as much our business what Sea Pig Zoe did/does as it is Phil's place to comment on it to the general public. Dizz posted:Check out my new game on Steam Greenlight it's called Rape Quest where you play a female indie game dev and you rape men to get status and control. Use media websites to play the victim and recruit white knights to your cause. Somebody already beat you to release by about a day http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/644805 Bitter Beard fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Aug 24, 2014 |
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Aug 24, 2014 20:53
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:yeah except when the story first dropped news outlets were totally unwilling to report on it and in fact went to great lengths to cover it up (see: 20k posts deleted by hand) and THEN the poo poo flinging started  Thanks for clearing it up, Forbes.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:53
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Burn all indie game developers at the stake except for the guy who made papers, please tia.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:54
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i hope phil fish commits seppuku
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Aug 24, 2014 20:55
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What was the consent she violated with her boyfriend that made her a rapist?? "Baby don't ride my dick of my BAC is above 0.08!"
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Aug 24, 2014 20:55
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tranime scholar posted:time to prove how Not Sexist i am by breathlessly defending a revolting excuse of a human being solely because she's a woman do you really think vidya games are the only industry where women get to the top on their backs
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Junkfist posted:
 is this tweet seriously about the zoe quinn thing or is it unrelated
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Peven Stan posted:do you really think vidya games are the only industry where women get to the top on their backs who said it was limited to vidya
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Aug 24, 2014 20:56
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Would this have mattered in anything other than the game industry? Didn't Kevin Smith sort of admit to pretty much having sex with a reporter doing an interview with him very shortly after they met? It's all good gossip and scandal, but the only sort of legit industry-related interesting part of the whole thing is the allegations of people who were wanting to voice their opinion and observation what they saw as unethical and hypocritical industry behavior being told to keep quiet about it.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:58
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I hate yankees posted:What was the consent she violated with her boyfriend that made her a rapist?? by her own logic if either of them ever had sex with another person while in the relationship, that would be a violation of consent. she broke her own made up rules and i have no problem holding it against her
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Aug 24, 2014 20:58
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I hate yankees posted:What was the consent she violated with her boyfriend that made her a rapist?? She said you can't consent to sex with someone who is cheating because they could have teh clap or anything.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:59
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nnnotime posted:What's a good alternative to Kotaku and related SJW ilk? I liked Kotaku's gaming news content but always got annoyed at their SJW BS and frequent revealing of spoilers in their news headlines. I had no idea Rock, Paper, Shotgun also had SJW influences. your an idiot
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Aug 24, 2014 20:59
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:
Zoe Quinn. Followed by: 
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I hate yankees posted:What was the consent she violated with her boyfriend that made her a rapist?? AFAIK, she's not a rapist according to the legal definition but according to her own definition (don't cheat on your SO, don't have sex with your SO right after having sex with someone else). Really she's not a rapist as much as she's a hypocrite. DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:
Date of tweet fits.
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Pawn 17 posted:You could try http://www.gamerheadlines.com/ I didn't really know about them until all of this went down, but they seem alright I guess. 
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Aug 24, 2014 20:59
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Who the gently caress actually reads gaming news? How hard is it to just go to a companies website and read the poo poo yourself?
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:
It is.
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I hate yankees posted:What was the consent she violated with her boyfriend that made her a rapist?? loving someone without their consent is not cool. loving someone under false premises is also a violation of consent. loving someone while knowingly withholding information that would have otherwise have made them revoke consent to gently caress you is also, and still, violating consent. zoe quinn explained to her boyfriend that if you cheated on zoe quinn, she would never consent to have sex with him. therefore if you cheat on zoe, and don't tell her (read: lied to her), and then proceed to have sex with her, you are raping her. zoe quinn browbeat her boyfriend into agreeing with this academic definition of consent and he ended up convinced by her argument (and, to be honest, it's a pretty solid argument and holds up academically. it's unenforceable legally though, you'd impound half the country for rape if you tried to legislate that definition) zoe quinn then proceeded to gently caress other men while in a committed monogamous relationship and not tell her boyfriend. she then proceeded to gently caress her boyfriend in between loving other men. I'm sure you can see the problem here given the above premises on top of that, to hide her infidelity, zoe hosed her boyfriend without condoms specifically to hide the fact that she was loving other men (because if she'd asked her boyfriend to use condoms then it would have arisen suspicion from him) 
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JediTalentAgent posted:Would this have mattered in anything other than the game industry? Didn't Kevin Smith sort of admit to pretty much having sex with a reporter doing an interview with him very shortly after they met? Not to mention retired general william petraeus who was banging that reporter and gave her priority access and kept her career afloat on exclusives straight from the horses mouth. The amount of sturm and drang exists only due to nerds being horrified that non-manchildren do this kind of poo poo all the time and its generally frowned upon.
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Aug 24, 2014 21:03
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The Landstander posted:Zoe Quinn. Followed by: nobody is saying "this raises some questions" because the only question it raises is did zoe have to go all the way with reporters for coverage or was a quick beej enough i think she could have gotten away with a handy j but better safe than sorry iykwim
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I hate yankees posted:What was the consent she violated with her boyfriend that made her a rapist?? On their very first date she told the boyfriend that if he cheated on her then she would not have consented to the sex therefore he would be raping her She then proceeds to literally gently caress other guys without protection within hours of loving her boyfriend while telling him not to wear protection because she hadn't been with anyone else
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Aug 24, 2014 21:03
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Does anyone have the jpg handy of the guy who posted on twitter about being sexually harassed and immediately chickens out once Phil Fish attacked him?
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Aug 24, 2014 21:04
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Brannock posted:on top of that, to hide her infidelity, zoe hosed her boyfriend without condoms specifically to hide the fact that she was loving other men (because if she'd asked her boyfriend to use condoms then it would have arisen suspicion from him) this is still, by far, the worst part. who the gently caress rawdogs with random strangers in the year 2014. she could have easily given everyone involved loving HIV or something
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Does anyone have the jpg handy of the guy who posted on twitter about being sexually harassed and immediately chickens out once Phil Fish attacked him? Marvel at the Humanity. 
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Brannock posted:Additionally Quinn and her boyfriend both agreed upon their boundaries and specifically what actions would be considered violating sexual consent -- otherwise known as rape. Which Quinn did. need more detail here - how is she a rapist? edit: beaten. not rape. lol
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