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Golden Goat posted:What was the wink again? Also I like Bolin's jokes but the sock was really out of place. I did find it unfortunately appropriate that we started and ended the most serious episode with peak awkward Bolin comic relief. The sock and bird call scenes were so horribly out of place, though the sock on did do exactly what I've wanted someone to do to Zaheer since day one.
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The sock might not have been so bad if he didn't literally drag out that joke. Just have Bolin walk up stuff a sock in and step back.
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Aug 25, 2014 13:49
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NowonSA posted:It would actually be pretty sweet if after two comets of Firebenders trying to take over or flat out burn the world, the comet arrives and all firebenders do is jetpack around and shoot fire patterns into the sky and such. It makes sense that only water & fire would have those since they're opposites.
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Golden Goat posted:The sock might not have been so bad if he didn't literally drag out that joke. Just have Bolin walk up stuff a sock in and step back.
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Aug 25, 2014 14:09
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computer parts posted:It makes sense that only water & fire would have those since they're opposites. Air and earth are considered opposites too. That's why Aang struggles with learning earthbending. It's particularly visible that they're opposites in the way the two forms of bending fight. Air is all about quick moving, dodging, and quick, light attacks where earth is focused on a solid stance, absorbing or deflecting blows, and strong, slow attacks.
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Rosalind posted:Air and earth are considered opposites too. That's why Aang struggles with learning earthbending. It's particularly visible that they're opposites in the way the two forms of bending fight. Air is all about quick moving, dodging, and quick, light attacks where earth is focused on a solid stance, absorbing or deflecting blows, and strong, slow attacks. Yeah, but I'm saying that because those two are opposites, they have similar modifiers, while the other two don't have to have them necessarily.
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TheModernAmerican posted:I did find it unfortunately appropriate that we started and ended the most serious episode with peak awkward Bolin comic relief. The sock and bird call scenes were so horribly out of place, though the sock on did do exactly what I've wanted someone to do to Zaheer since day one. 
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Aug 25, 2014 14:51
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Baron Bifford posted:I think Bolin has undergone the process of "Flanderization", wherein a character's most remarkable trait is exaggerated. That's not entirely true, we just got two character arcs from him where he admits to being a fuckup and tries to improve (Opal and metal/lavabending).
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I'll admit to snickering a bit after the battle at the Northern Air Temple and we hear "Caw caw! Caw caw!" off-screen. The initial bird-call joke was probably the low point of the season though.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I'll admit to snickering a bit after the battle at the Northern Air Temple and we hear "Caw caw! Caw caw!" off-screen. I smiled a little, if only because it seemed like Bolin was making fun of himself. But since it's Bolin, he was probably genuinely trying to distract the Red Lotus. With Bolin, every time he's on screen, my only hope is that he doesn't embarrass himself (and, by extension, me). That's not a character that is in any way endearing or enjoyable to watch.
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Wildeyes posted:I smiled a little, if only because it seemed like Bolin was making fun of himself. But since it's Bolin, he was probably genuinely trying to distract the Red Lotus. Man that poor baby Sky Bison. Anyone else feel bad when they were all forced to pile on the little fella? Also, what happened to all the Air Acolytes at the Northern Air Temple? I'm sure they all got out before the place was melted down into slag, but when/how did that happen?
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Rewatching season one and the first episode they are discussing her lack of spirituality, Korra counters by calling Tenzin "Mr. Spiritual", hEH
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I've always wondered if they would end the avatar cycle with Korra. If/when they do another series, it could be 100 years down the line or so, and they could finally do a future setting like they originally wanted. Write some excuse for the reappearance of the avatar in a society that barely remembers who it was.
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Kingtheninja posted:I've always wondered if they would end the avatar cycle with Korra. If/when they do another series, it could be 100 years down the line or so, and they could finally do a future setting like they originally wanted. Write some excuse for the reappearance of the avatar in a society that barely remembers who it was. I like that one idea of a Earthbender country hick trying to understand a super futuristic bending society. e: Then again, we sort of already got that when Korra first arrived in Republic City.
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Kingtheninja posted:I've always wondered if they would end the avatar cycle with Korra. If/when they do another series, it could be 100 years down the line or so, and they could finally do a future setting like they originally wanted. Write some excuse for the reappearance of the avatar in a society that barely remembers who it was. I feel like if they were going to that, it would have happened at the end of Season 2. They wouldn't have gone through all the effort to set up Korra as the first avatar of a new cycle and then just be all like, "nevermind!" EDIT: If they want to have the avatar gone for 100 years again, they could always just freeze them in an iceberg again. 
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ShadowCatboy posted:Man that poor baby Sky Bison. Anyone else feel bad when they were all forced to pile on the little fella? They weren't there, this was a major plot point. Unless you're worried about those water blobs?
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Think he means the non-bending air acolytes that were in season 1.
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Wildeyes posted:Think he means the non-bending air acolytes that were in season 1. They were probably just in another cavern for people unimportant to the plot.
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Kibayasu posted:They were probably just in another cavern for people unimportant to the plot. I'm imagining them all engaging in some Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead-style shenanigans: flipping coins, debating philosophy, wondering why they have no agency when a main character is present, and playing questions.
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TheModernAmerican posted:They weren't there, this was a major plot point.
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Wildeyes posted:Think he means the non-bending air acolytes that were in season 1. Man, those non-bending air acolytes that then didn't get air bending most feel so shafted. Except for Pema, who would just be like, "G-ddamnit, I am already so tired." I would pretty much bail on the movement if I didn't get airbending at that point.
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dj_clawson posted:Man, those non-bending air acolytes that then didn't get air bending most feel so shafted. Except for Pema, who would just be like, "G-ddamnit, I am already so tired." I'd go out on a limb and say the ones at the Northern Air Temple got burned most of all.
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tribbledirigible posted:I'd go out on a limb and say the ones at the Northern Air Temple got burned most of all. I want to punch you.
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MrAristocrates posted:I want to punch you. I deserve it. I'm a terrible person. 
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It would be so great if Toph played a role in bringing peace to Ba Sing Se next season. She does think it's the worst city ever, but this is a grand opportunity to help rebuild it so it isn't all that terrible. She also used to be a policewoman, so this is kind of in her jurisdiction.
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I'm rewatching Season 1 right now and man did I forget that they used to have jazz motifs. That's actually one of the departments where LoK completely outshines LoA for me: I didn't mind the music in the latter (or, rather, I didn't notice it), but Korra just has so much more to offer. There are moments in some of the fight scenes, though, where there's no music and it looks a bit weird. Also, I forgot that the first words to come from Korra's mouth are 'I'm the Avatar, you gotta deal with it'. Guess Zaheer learned it the hard way.
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Supersonic Shine posted:It would be so great if Toph played a role in bringing peace to Ba Sing Se next season. She does think it's the worst city ever, but this is a grand opportunity to help rebuild it so it isn't all that terrible. She also used to be a policewoman, so this is kind of in her jurisdiction. She also used to be the Melon Lord. And I expect that's how she'd handle Ba Sing Se.
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PiedPiper posted:I'm rewatching Season 1 right now and man did I forget that they used to have jazz motifs.
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PiedPiper posted:I'm rewatching Season 1 right now and man did I forget that they used to have jazz motifs. That's actually one of the departments where LoK completely outshines LoA for me: I didn't mind the music in the latter (or, rather, I didn't notice it), but Korra just has so much more to offer. There are moments in some of the fight scenes, though, where there's no music and it looks a bit weird. ATLA has some gorgeous music, but I absolutely agree Korra blows it away. The music in Korra, leaving the juxtaposition of it with scenes from the show alone, it loving amazing.
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PiedPiper posted:I'm rewatching Season 1 right now and man did I forget that they used to have jazz motifs. That's actually one of the departments where LoK completely outshines LoA for me: I didn't mind the music in the latter (or, rather, I didn't notice it), but Korra just has so much more to offer. There are moments in some of the fight scenes, though, where there's no music and it looks a bit weird. From what I've noticed the music in LoK generally cuts out or drops in volume during fights so you can hear Korra grunt without any distractions
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Vincent posted:
There ya go.
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NowonSA posted:I'll end with my guess as to why Korra is crying at the end. One of Zahir's lectures to Korra was that the Avatar was no longer needed. She's just watched an airbending ceremony be performed that she doubtless would have loved to participate in, but cannot. Where she was once one of five airbenders on the planet, now she has created many new ones, making her that much less special. Tenzin's big speech about filling in for her makes her think two things: My sole purpose of bringing balance has been taken over, and I am no longer needed, just like Zahir said. The title of the episode really seems to point in part to this rather than being a literal reference to the poison they used. It might have just been an aesthetic choice, but the word "venom" seems deliberate -- venom (as opposed to poison) comes from bites or stings, and all signs point to next season being about addressing the lingering damage the Red Lotus has caused. Killing the Earth Queen and telling the people to rebel and live in anarchy was just the bite, so to speak. And the first part of the season obviously has to be about the lingering damage done to Korra herself. The poison they used on her didn't do that to her. It made her sick and physically weakened her, but I think we're definitely going to get a "Zaheer was right" outburst out of Korra within the first couple of episodes next season because that's the thing that's actually crippling her. It's not like that's a big departure really either, since Korra's worst enemy has always been Korra. Also, people keep saying the poison was mercury, but did they actually say as much anywhere?
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It's mercury-like in appearance, and close enough for fantasy in symptoms, but they never called it that.
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Reene posted:The title of the episode really seems to point in part to this rather than being a literal reference to the poison they used. It might have just been an aesthetic choice, but the word "venom" seems deliberate -- venom (as opposed to poison) comes from bites or stings, and all signs point to next season being about addressing the lingering damage the Red Lotus has caused. Killing the Earth Queen and telling the people to rebel and live in anarchy was just the bite, so to speak. Related to that I have to wonder if perhaps Korra took Tenzin's speech about protecting the world while she recovers completely differently than the way he meant it and the way the audience is supposed to. Every single antagonist Korra has faced so far has basically said that the Avatar is the problem. She nearly lost her bending; the world was nearly destroyed; and then Tenzin, her father, and herself (among others) were all nearly killed because the latest crazy came along saying that she was the problem. Tenzin then finished the season with a speech about how the new airbenders will fill in for Korra while she recovers which I think Korra took the complete opposite meaning as the intended meaning for both the characters and the audience. I think it could be less "Amon/Unalaq/Zaheer was right" and more along the lines of "Maybe the world actually doesn't need an Avatar any more because all it apparently does is put everyone in danger, even people I don't know." Reene posted:Also, people keep saying the poison was mercury, but did they actually say as much anywhere? Not specified but since it was apparently a room temperature liquid metal that's what most people will assume.
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Reene posted:"Zaheer was right" Call me selfish, but if Korra ends with the end of the Avatar, I will be pissed for all of my lifetimes. 
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Well I mean I don't think Zaheer was actually literally right but we're definitely going to see Korra going through a period where she's convinced all these bad people maybe had a point after all and the world will be better off without the Avatar/her in it. So that leads us to what the "legend" bit of Legend of Korra is -- I think we're going to end up seeing Korra reinvent what the role of the avatar is in relation to the world and the various nations. Pulling herself out of the put she's in is going to necessarily involve figuring out just what, exactly, her duty is or should be now. Her not having access to her past lives is actually a pretty important aspect of this, not only because she can't just ask them what she should do (making it entirely her responsibility) but because their opinions about the role of the avatar in the world aren't actually relevant anymore.
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Really hoping for a begrudging team-up with Zaheer in the series' finale vs. whatever super big bad guy they come up with. Speaking of, where are they gonna from here? I always wondered whether guns could be a factor in the show, it seems contrary to the spirit of the franchise, but at least Asami could have some meaningful participation in a major battle.
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Vincent posted:
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Zaheer's insurrectionist notions of flat-out eradicating world leaders when they're obviously corrupt and harmful is...well, we can argue about whether it's ethically right to assassinate someone, but it's still an understandable opinion that someone rational could conceivably arrive at. It's a blunt force trauma solution to a complex problem, but it's not really a dumb, unthinking blunt force solution. It's the Red vs White Lotus, Bolin Pai Sho vs Asami Pai Sho paradigm. The direct forceful approach for short-term gains, vs the slow burn strategic approach for long-term goals. The problem is when he starts talking about the natural order being disorder and how chaos is the rightful state of the world. Isn't that just a fancy poetic way to say that anyone should just be allowed to do whatever they want with no consequences? What determines right from wrong, in a world of chaos? Personal preference? Moreover, he goes on to talk about how, in this new world, you will only have allegiance to yourself and to those you love. So basically...only people who benefit you personally deserve your loyalty or consideration. "I got mine, gently caress everyone else." Really, Zaheer's filled to the brim with selfish and barbaric notions dressed up with elegant words.
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