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Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene
Reddit and 4chan are organizing matches against each other; maybe we should get in on that too. Seems like a good way to get games against similar types of teams as ourselves.

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OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Mukip posted:

Reddit and 4chan are organizing matches against each other; maybe we should get in on that too. Seems like a good way to get games against similar types of teams as ourselves.

Yeah, I think itd be a lot of fun to get a ton of goons for an organized big match like theyre talking about, anywhere from 5v5 to 10v10, maybe even make it a regular thing. We've actually played a lot of ad hoc goon vs reddit games on the 5v5 and 6v6 servers and slaughtered them every time including last night, but its fun because they dont give up and play with a semblance of organization.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


I'd be down for some organized matches depending on the time, as long as it is in the evening central US time I'm available.

SirDrinksAlot
Aug 6, 2006

The wicked flee when none pursueth
Yep, I'd be down as well.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Count me and my Danish support '85 deck in as well. (:v:)

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Anyone wanna kick my rear end today? I'm looking to start trying multiplayer.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Just hop in Mumble. We do not tend to play against each other most of the time. MP is more fun in groups.

Question for modders. Would it be possible to add PACT units to a NATO nation's roster and viceversa?

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
I'd be down once my laptop gets repaired.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Popete posted:

Anyone wanna kick my rear end today? I'm looking to start trying multiplayer.

Hop into Mumble, get playing with people. I'm always down to help new people learn to play multi, though it'll be another week until I have consistently decent internet again.

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.

Azran posted:

Just hop in Mumble. We do not tend to play against each other most of the time. MP is more fun in groups.

Question for modders. Would it be possible to add PACT units to a NATO nation's roster and viceversa?

It should be, it has a ridiculous learning curve but the accessibility seems to be there. The hard part is just lining everything up because there are like 20 references you need to get right across a bunch of areas that aren't super accessible or clear, especially if you don't speak french.

I played around with it a little but didn't get far, the mod team guys have made some progress on that front though.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

New campaign starts with a naval battle. The enemy fleet has 4 Sovremenny's and 13 Tarantuls.

The Soviets dont gently caress around in the East it seems :(

Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene
Well, I live in the UK, so we might be better off organizing for both the EU and US timezones, fielding two elite squads of whoever happens to show up. Are saturdays in the EU evenings a good time?

Although personally, I'm not interested in anything above a 4v4. If we want to play screw-around matches then we can just play random pubbies in 10v10s; there's too many players for it to be competitively interesting at that scale. I'm not necessarily into the super-tryhard matches either, though, which is why I'm hesitant to invite clans along. Reddit and 4chan teams probably play similarly to how we do, however.

Mukip fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Aug 21, 2014

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...
I'll throw my hat in the ring as well. Just let me know when/where.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
I'm down to play, but I think we should play with clans, as well. The only fun thing left in this game is trying to be the best, otherwise its just more endless pub stomping.

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
I had a lot more fun in the goon 4v4 last night than I do in most matches. We need more.

Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene
4chan group VG-Wargamers say they tend to be on around 8pm GMT.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Mukip posted:

4chan group VG-Wargamers say they tend to be on around 8pm GMT.

So, 3PM for US east coast, noon for US west coast, and somewhere between midnight and sunup for the AUS/Asia crew.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
5pm for the GMT-3 crowd a.k.a the worst America :colbert:

Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene
I'm going to try and get some matches scheduled for next saturday.

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

So we've finally finished this release of the mod.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqreba453dskcm1/Uralgraznomod%20Installer%201.7Release.rar?dl=0

We've got an installer for it too this time!

quote:

Uralgraznomod 1.7 Changelog

New Units
-XM-975, Roland 2 system for USA, replacing the M48 Chaparral.
-ATGM I-TOW, an infantry I-TOW system for USA, replacing the Redeye team.
-I-TOW, an infantry I-TOW system for ANZAC, replacing the MILAN team.
-ATGM HJ-8, an infantry HJ-8 team for China, replacing the HN-5A team.


General
-Minimum of 350 seconds of autonomy for all ground units.

-Cluster bombs have had their blast radius buffed by 150% to increase overlap
-Many APC/IFV have had their availabilities and prices buffed
-BMP-3 Arkan now has 40% Stabs
-M1A1(HC) added to armor decks

-Mixed decks are still removed from this version.
-Deck unit restrictions have been adjusted and vastly opened up for the three main types, Armoured, Mechanised and Motorised.

Logistics
-All command units have been made much cheaper as detailed here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pPqXyE2SvnVlYSijHSIUbLQBktiXaPtFNIjb2kff78/edit#gid=1990540871
-Sample:
CV jeep = 30pts
CV T-72K1 = 60pts
CV Leopard 2 = 110

Infantry
-Gornostrelki now come in BTR-60/70
-BTR-90 returns as an infantry transport as in prior versions of the mod
-MTLB carrier for Spetsnaz
-ANZAC Commandos75/90 are both now 15 man squads
-USA Marines can now be taken in LAV-25’s
-Rangers are now a unique 10 man shock recon squad.
-Delta Force now upgraded to M72A4 LAW
-Machine guns have been rebalanced as per here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pPqXyE2SvnVlYSijHSIUbLQBktiXaPtFNIjb2kff78/edit#gid=2053312341
-Anti-Tank weapons have been standardized as per here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pPqXyE2SvnVlYSijHSIUbLQBktiXaPtFNIjb2kff78/edit#gid=1149503698


Tank Price List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pPqXyE2SvnVlYSijHSIUbLQBktiXaPtFNIjb2kff78/edit#gid=82528793
T-34 10
PT-90 15
T-62 20
T-55A 20
BMP-685 20
T-62 Obr.75 25

T-55AM 30
T-72 30
T-64A 35
T-72A 40
T-62M1 35
T-55AM2 35
T-55AMV 40
T-62M 40
T-62MV-1 45

T-80 50
T-64B 55
T-80B 65
T-72B1 80
T-64BM 85
T-72B 85

T-64BV1 100
T-80BV 100
T-80A 100
T-72B '87 110
T-64BV 115

T-72B '89 125
T-80U 135

T-72BU 180
T-80UM 170

T-34/85M1 10
KPz T-34/85M 10
PT-76 Desant 15
T-55A 20
T-55L 20
KPz T-55A 20
T-62cz 25
T-55AM1B 30
KPz T-55AM1BP 30
T-55AM1 Meridia 30
T-55AM2 Meridia 35

T-55AM2B 35
KPz T-55AM2BP 40
T-55AM2 Dyna-1 45
T-72 P 30
T-72 C 30
KPz T-72 30
T-72M Pol 35
T-72M CSSR 35
KPz T-72M 35

T-72M1 Pol 50
T-72M1 CSSR 50
KPz-72M1 60

T-72M1 WILK 85
T-72M1M 85
T-72M2 WILK 105
T-72S1 110
T-72S DDR 115
T-72S Pol 115
T-72S CSSR 115

PT-91 Twardy 160
T-72M2 Moderna 165

T-34 10
ZTS-63-1 15
ZTZ-59-1 15
Sinhung 20
Ch'Omna-Ho 20
Type-59 20
T-62D 20
ZTZ-59-2 25

Type-59-1 25
Ch'Omna-Ho 2 30
ZTZ-59-2A 30
ZTS-63-2 30
ZTZ-88 35
ZTZ-85-2 45
Ch'Omna-Ho 4 50
T-72M 55

ZTZ-85-2A 70
ZTZ-85-3 105

T-90S 170


M48A5 USMC 15
M60A1 USMC 25
M60A1 Rise 25
M60A1 AOS 25
M551A1 Sheridan 30

M8 AGS 40
M60A2E1 Star 30
M60A2E2 Star 35
M60A3 35
M60A1 ERA 40
MBT-70 45
Super M60 45

M1 50
M1IP 75
M1A1 100
M1A1(HA) 125
M1A1(HC) 150
M1A2 180

KPz M48A2G 15
KPz M48A2G2 15
Leopard 1A2 20
AMX-10 RC SB 20
AMX-13 Harpon 25

AMX-30 20
AMX-30B 25
Leopard 1A4 30
AMX-30B2 30

Leopard 1A5 40

AMX-30B2 Bren 50
AMX-32 55
AMX-40 70
KPz-70 Keiler 50
Leopard 2 60
Leopard 2A1 90
Leopard 2A4 115
Leclerc 160
Leopard 2A5 170

M41A1 10
Centurion M5 15
Centurion M5/1 15
Centurion M6 15
Centurion M11 20
Scorpion 20
Scorpion AUS 20
Centurion M5AT 25
Scorpion 90 25

Leopard AS1 25
Cheiftain Mk.2 30
Leopard C1 30
Cheiftain Mk.5 35
Cheiftain Mk.10 50
Leopard AS1+ 35
Leopard C2 40
Leopard C2 MEXAS 55
Cheiftain Mk.11 70

Challenger 1M1 100
Challenger 1M2 115
Challenger 1M3 130
Challenger 2 180

M41A1 10
Roku-Ichi Shiki 10
M48A3K 15
M48A5K 25

Nana-Yon Shiki A 25
Nana-Yon Shiki C 25
Nana-Yon Shiki E 30
M48A5K2 35
Nana-Yon Shiki G 40

K1 80
K1A1 130

Kyu-Maru Shiki 170

M24 10
M48A1 10
Centurion 84mm 15
strv 102 15
M48A5 15
Leopard 1NO 15
Centurion 105mm 20

strv 102r 20
Centurion mk5/2-dk 25
strv 104 30
Leopard 1a3-dk 30
Leopard 1a1no 35
strv 103b 45
strv 103c 65

Support
-SAM cost/range/price rebalance and AAA availability boosts as described here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pPqXyE2SvnVlYSijHSIUbLQBktiXaPtFNIjb2kff78/edit#gid=523453790

Vehicles
-TOS-1 is now armored/mechanized
-BMPT is now armored/mechanized
-ATGM Vehicles have been re-priced to cheaper levels


Helicopters
-USSR/DDR Mi-8T is now unarmed, 15pts
-USSR/DDR Mi-24A has ATGM removed, is now 35pts.
-POL/CSSR/CHINA/NK Mi-8T is now 20pts
-All Mi-8/17 with S-13 are 25pts
-All Mi-8TV are 25pts
-Ka-29 set to 30pts
-Mi-28 moved to Recon and given Exceptional optics, renamed Mi-28N and date set to ‘95. Now added to Mechanised and Armoured deck types.
-AH-64A Apache also now available in major deck types.

Planes
F-14 Tomcat has been moved from the naval tab back to planes. Availability set to two cards of one at hardened and priced at 170pts. Restricted to marine decks.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqreba453dskcm1/Uralgraznomod%20Installer%201.7Release.rar?dl=0

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
4chan wants to do destruction, especially total destruction, for organized matches; so I definitely will not be participating in that. Most redditors play conquest though, so we can still do this.

Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene
Two posters from 4chan, anyway.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
Are there enough people playing Uralgraznomod to find matches or do you have to schedule them?

Shanakin
Mar 26, 2010

The whole point of stats are lost if you keep it a secret. Why Didn't you tell the world eh?
It's picking back up a bit again but yeah generally needs someone to at least send out the bat-signal that there are people interested in a game on the steam group for now.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Getting better with the AJS 37 has been the main saving grace for getting back into my Scandinavia deck. It's just nice to know that the Viggen will almost always go through even for deep targets, that there are only four bombs that need to be quickly released, and that anything in the zones I designate will be 100% dead, unlike rockeyes dropping 12 cluster bombs and not killing a single one of the T-55s I designated. I can't wait until I can put some more modern units into my Doomlaut deck whenever that DLC comes out.

RangerPL
Jul 23, 2014
Reddit got absolutely destroyed in their match with /wgg/

It was supposed to be a best-of-five series but all the reddit people bailed after two games:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3766742/Real_Reddit_vs_4chan_match_2_wrong_replay_earlier.wargamerpl2
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3766742/Reddit_vs_4chan_Match_1.wargamerpl2

Also, if anyone's interested, I can get some games set up against people from the TWC forums. They're of varied skill levels like us.

RangerPL fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Aug 25, 2014

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

RangerPL posted:

Reddit got absolutely destroyed in their match with /wgg/

It was supposed to be a best-of-five series but all the reddit people bailed after two games:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3766742/Real_Reddit_vs_4chan_match_2_wrong_replay_earlier.wargamerpl2
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3766742/Reddit_vs_4chan_Match_1.wargamerpl2

Also, if anyone's interested, I can also get some games set up against people from the TWC forums. They're of varied skill levels like us.

Do they all usually play destruction?

RangerPL
Jul 23, 2014
No, they're conquest players.

Shanakin
Mar 26, 2010

The whole point of stats are lost if you keep it a secret. Why Didn't you tell the world eh?
4-Channers are normally the guys who bitch and moan about superior Destruction mode in my experience.

Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene

RangerPL posted:

Also, if anyone's interested, I can get some games set up against people from the TWC forums. They're of varied skill levels like us.

Please do.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

Shanakin posted:

4-Channers are normally the guys who bitch and moan about superior Destruction mode in my experience.

The few times I've wandered over to their thread someone's always gushing off about how time limited total destruction is so much more dynamic than conquest because somehow the inherent points deficit you acquire by attacking is offset by the chance to push your opponent all the way off the map.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Maybe with super cheap CVs it might be decent, but when you're attacking and buying more CVs, that creates a serious deficit in points worth of shooty things that's hard not to exploit.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
I know I kind of disappeared this past week, but I'm going to try and be on the next few days and also this weekend for some tryharding.

Heer98 fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Aug 26, 2014

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=47907#p655196

Earlier launch of the Korean War campaign and 12 new units for non - Scandinavian nations. Hell yes.

RangerPL
Jul 23, 2014
I really wish they'd do some non-naval maps for a change.

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.

RangerPL posted:

I really wish they'd do some non-naval maps for a change.

Less maps split in half by natural barricades like rivers and cliffs would be nice too. poo poo, rotate the current river ones 90 degrees and you'd get huge improvements in accessibility.

Very interesting DLC though, really curious just what units they are, especially if some are whole new models and nut just another variant.

Mazz fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 26, 2014

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Mazz posted:

Less maps split in half by natural barricades like rivers and cliffs would be nice too. poo poo, rotate the current river ones 90 degrees and you'd get huge improvements in accessibility.

Very interesting DLC though, really curious just what units they are, especially if some of they are whole new models and nut just another variant.

Yep, a good 2/3's are new models apparently.

Wondering what the US one will be? I'm thinking LOSAT, Bradley ADATS, or LAV-AD. Either of em would rock, but Bradley ADATS is my preferred.

FRG its looking like the Marder 2... or Wiesel 2 if Eugen is trolling

UK I'm thinking Phantom

USSR I'm really not sure. What do they feel they're in need of model wise? ATACMS equivalent via a TBM carrier ala Tochka etc?

RangerPL
Jul 23, 2014

Mazz posted:

Less maps split in half by natural barricades like rivers and cliffs would be nice too. poo poo, rotate the current river ones 90 degrees and you'd get huge improvements in accessibility.

That's exactly what I suggested in this thread, even made some mock-ups: http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=47215

Shame the thread died when I got banned. People would rather talk about tank autoloaders than something that would actually make the game better for everyone.

Dandywalken posted:

USSR I'm really not sure. What do they feel they're in need of model wise? ATACMS equivalent via a TBM carrier ala Tochka etc?
Su-27IB (Su-34) maybe? The Soviets could use a heavy bomber that isn't overpriced garbage *cough*Il-102*cough*

RangerPL fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Aug 26, 2014

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

RangerPL posted:

That's exactly what I suggested in this thread, even made some mock-ups: http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=47215

Shame the thread died when I got banned.

You and NATO Potato were too beautiful to be banned.

I also got 34 PM's from Cobraa last night insulting me. Cobraa is the Rafale fanboi #1. I only insulted him with one (THE SMALL DICK STORE CALLED, SAID THEY'RE RUNNIN OUTTA YOUUUUUU!). The rest were random-assed comments, and Morrowind insults that the Dark Elves use versus the player.

quote:

Hey troll why don't you go fick your ladyboy that you use as mither instead of crabaginf all you poo poo here?
Is that because you are not alone that you feel hot like that, haha bitch. Kill yourself.

quote:

Shut up dickless ant.
Go troling around with you pussy cat club!

I knew you were weak but at that much it surprising me and confort me in the idea that yea that was right you are all braintard trolls.

quote:

Come on ant, i got my insect killer sprey!

Show me how courageous you are!!

LOLOLOL!!

Do we have to change sex to be part of your club or what?
Or maybe acting like "forum wars" and troling around...

Nice! I like it!

And so on. What started this weird attack?

I'd quoted this post, and replied "Seems not :("

quote:

Forimar wrote:
Posting that massive text block about the rafale in a leclerc thread for no reason...just why... do fanboys have nothing better to do?

Which led Cobraa to PM me and the 34 rage-driven PM's he sent after.

Being the Worst Marshall aint easy.

Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Aug 26, 2014

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Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.

RangerPL posted:

That's exactly what I suggested in this thread, even made some mock-ups: http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=47215

Shame the thread died when I got banned. People would rather start threads about tank autoloaders than something that would actually make the game better for everyone.

Su-27IB (Su-34) maybe? The Soviets could use a heavy bomber that isn't overpriced garbage *cough*Il-102*cough*

Yeah, look to 3MI or the ALB version of Summer Blitz that was literally just that map turned on its side with some zone changes (I forget its name, but the one with the middle zone split by the river and the side spawns that got removed). Rivers/bridges really do stifle the potential of so many good games.

I left those forums a long time ago for being a irredeemable cesspit, it's really unfortunate how some great ideas get drown out there by a collection of really lovely people, and/or diluted by bad arguments because of poo poo like TDM vs Conquest gameplay differences.

As to the new units, I agree with that list. For the US it's very likely the M2 ADATS or some AA vehicle like the LAV-AD/M975, but I could see the Comanche sneak in maybe because of demand/cool factor. Hopefully it's either AA or infantry, as cool as they are the US really doesn't need another ATGM thrower or AT helo, unless the LOSAT shoots like 2975m or something. Another shock infantry or Delta '90 would probably make the most difference. I really don't know the soviets either, but I'd lean towards another bomber with the KAB-1500 or something of that sort too. If you think DRG mech is good now, wait until they have what amounts to the BMPT carrying their PGrens around. It's protection was nearly Leo 2 levels and the main gun could be 35mm or 50mm, with a MILAN attachment.

Mazz fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Aug 26, 2014

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