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1188 | 52.59% |
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RBA Starblade posted:I don't care about Shulk but Duck Hunt dog is going to be hilarious. When it was just screenshots of the character roster, I too was a Doubting Dennis, but then video footage came out and welp
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Aug 26, 2014 17:12
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I hope in Pokken there's a way to get a Hawlucha/Wrestling Pikachu tag team.
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Aug 26, 2014 17:14
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RBA Starblade posted:I knew there was a 'leak' but I figured it was as bullshit as every other one in existence.  
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Aug 26, 2014 17:21
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if you're not sold on bowser jr on that sad clown face alone you have no soul
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Aug 26, 2014 17:21
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I love how the clown car uses its propeller like floppy flipper feet.
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Aug 26, 2014 17:25
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Lessail posted:why do you care so much I don't? At least I don't think I do? What's with this post, seriously. Also wait they announced Pokken, and not the Pikachu Detective thing? After hearing "SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT" and them being in the middle of a huge pikachu event I figured it was going to obviously be the lesser known of the two
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Aug 26, 2014 17:29
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Saw this post on tumblr that shows a nice comparison between Brawl and SSB4's art style and how much nicer it looks. It's especially noticable with Dedede: 
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Aug 26, 2014 17:33
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I do not for the life of me understand why they went with that drat washed-out-looking palette for Brawl.
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Aug 26, 2014 17:39
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Macaluso posted:Saw this post on tumblr that shows a nice comparison between Brawl and SSB4's art style and how much nicer it looks. It's especially noticable with Dedede: A classic Bowserbomb if I ever saw one. "gently caress you guys, this game's all about me now" Monkey Fracas posted:I do not for the life of me understand why they went with that drat washed-out-looking palette for Brawl. Didn't Sakurai say they lowered the contrast to make Snake fit in better or something? The game was designed to look grittier and more visually detailed than Melee. Also Sakurai had less control over Brawl than Melee, which explains a lot of its issues Excels fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Aug 26, 2014 17:39
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I like how Dedede's eyes are less soulless.
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Aug 26, 2014 17:44
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Of course Ridley/Snake was too good to be true.  Monkey Fracas posted:I do not for the life of me understand why they went with that drat washed-out-looking palette for Brawl. I thought it looked ok. 
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Aug 26, 2014 17:44
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Brawl was still an improvement over Melee, which had some pretty gross palettes. Melee's characters looked like they had the contrast cranked up and the brightness turned down.
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Aug 26, 2014 17:49
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Melee still looks pretty good, on an emulator  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STeLpMBfqEY
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Aug 26, 2014 17:51
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Anatharon posted:Of course Ridley/Snake was too good to be true. Don't know if it's super well known but the original person who leaked the list spoke out Basically people keep taking his or her list and adding to it including linkhatcherT (who gets linked a LOT) and there's no remaining characters that he knows about. If there are any no one knows them except for the guy who may or may not have a early copy.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:09
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Honestly I'd be a bit disappointed if this leak is the final roster, just because it takes away the anticipation of who else is in the game. On the other hand, if the rumor about Chorus Men/Marshal and Ridley is true, I'd be hype enough for them to not care. Marshal with rhythm-based attacks would be so fun to play (plus it means a bunch of Rhythm Heaven music in the game)
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Aug 26, 2014 18:45
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Honestly I'd be a bit disappointed if this leak is the final roster, just because it takes away the anticipation of who else is in the game. Well, it seems to me like the leaked roster has to be either the full roster or the initial roster. I can't imagine them showing a roster to the ESRB that's partially unlocked - that would be weird, right? So we should know the answer on day one. If the roster you start with matches the leaked roster then the "five more characters" thing is most likely true. But if the game starts off with a smaller roster, then the leaked roster is almost definitely the full roster.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:52
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It can't be the final roster, because All-Star Mode is locked. It only unlocks when you have the full roster. There are at least five characters left to fill out the screen, and Miis replace Random when enabled. That will be the full roster. Also several of the changes and cuts have to do with the limitations of the 3DS. I don't get why he would force the Wii U version to suffer because of an underpowered port released in advance, but hey, I don't know how Sakurai's mind works
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Aug 26, 2014 18:55
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Excels posted:It can't be the final roster, because All-Star Mode is locked. It only unlocks when you have the full roster. Unless they set the roster as unlocked to show the ERSB. They might not have to do that with modes.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:57
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Excels posted:It can't be the final roster, because All-Star Mode is locked. It only unlocks when you have the full roster. There are at least five characters left to fill out the screen, and Miis replace Random when enabled. That will be the full roster. Also several of the changes and cuts have to do with the limitations of the 3DS. I don't get why he would force the Wii U version to suffer because of an underpowered port released in advance, but hey, I don't know how Sakurai's mind works To be fair, that was a demo reel. It wasn't the actual game or anything so there's no way of telling if it's the final one or not. (It's why one of the clips cuts to Yoshi doing the Home Run Derby)
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Aug 26, 2014 18:59
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I don't get why developers get to pick and choose what they show to the ESRB. Like couldn't Nintendo just not include Tharja's rear end and hope nobody notices?
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Aug 26, 2014 19:01
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Ice Climbers have, historically, not been among the more visually complicated characters. Don't Nana and Popo combined have fewer polygons than Link, or something? If it's true that they're dropped, and I doubt it, it's probably more to do with balance concerns related to chain-grabs or something.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:01
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F. Lobot posted:I don't get why developers get to pick and choose what they show to the ESRB. Like couldn't Nintendo just not include Tharja's rear end and hope nobody notices? Because there's a chance that if you sneak something significant past the ESRB and they find out you could have all your games recalled and reclassified which is pretty bad mkay?
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Aug 26, 2014 19:02
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F. Lobot posted:I don't get why developers get to pick and choose what they show to the ESRB. Like couldn't Nintendo just not include Tharja's rear end and hope nobody notices?
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Aug 26, 2014 19:04
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Bongo Bill posted:Ice Climbers have, historically, not been among the more visually complicated characters. Don't Nana and Popo combined have fewer polygons than Link, or something? If it's true that they're dropped, and I doubt it, it's probably more to do with balance concerns related to chain-grabs or something.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:06
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F. Lobot posted:I don't get why developers get to pick and choose what they show to the ESRB. Like couldn't Nintendo just not include Tharja's rear end and hope nobody notices? It's in everyone's interest to have accurate ratings. If you're making a game that suits an M-rating, it's better to actually be given that rating than to scam your way into an E or T and catch public flack for it later. The video game industry enjoys being able to regulate itself, and that would come to an end quickly if the ESRB weren't able to be accurate.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:07
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Bongo Bill posted:Ice Climbers have, historically, not been among the more visually complicated characters. Don't Nana and Popo combined have fewer polygons than Link, or something? If it's true that they're dropped, and I doubt it, it's probably more to do with balance concerns related to chain-grabs or something. If you choose Ice Climbers fighting 3 other Ice Climbers, that's 3 Popos and 4 Nanas the 3DS has to control on screen at the same time. It's an issue of too many AIs, not polygon count. Which definitely sucks, but hopefully the next game will either not have a handheld version or the 4DS will be able to handle the strain.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:09
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It's the exact same idea as the comics code authority, right? The industry regulates itself to keep the government from regulating for them.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:10
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I wonder why it doesn't happen more often. Usually it requires some parent to make a big fuss over the content, but I doubt that would happen over panty shots on a few trophies out of 500. It just seems like a system that's begging to be abused. Hot coffee was a special case because you could only see it by hacking the game. I still disagree with that decision.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:12
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Is the 3DS really that bad in terms of power? Everyone keeps saying Ice Climbers would make it crash with 8 AIs running around but I've always felt like the 3DS was about on par with a Gamecube and Melee handled the ICs just fine. Of course I have no technical specs to compare but visually they look similar. And then there's the whole issue of Rosalina and Olimar being in the game with no apparent trouble.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:18
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If the roster we saw is the final, everyone unlocked roster, the only thing I'll be sad about is Ice Climbers. Other than that, its a drat good Smash roster with way more characters than I ever expected. I mean, its sometimes hard for me to remember that its still BIG NEWS, but this game lets you play as Mega Man and PacMan for cryin out loud. Just looking at the list of newcomers makes me super happy. Mega, Pac, Little Mac, Rosalina, Robin, Palutena, Wii Fit Trainer, Villager...all great stuff.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:19
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I think there was an interview where Sakurai said the Ice Climbers might be a challenge, so now that there's a character select screen that doesn't have them on it (even though it doesn't quite look complete), people are declaring DEFINITELY CUT DUE TO 3DS POWER.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:21
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jivjov posted:If the roster we saw is the final, everyone unlocked roster, the only thing I'll be sad about is Ice Climbers. Other than that, its a drat good Smash roster with way more characters than I ever expected. I think it's all going to hit me at once when i start tearing into the game how awesome it really is. I feel a little detached at this point.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:22
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Hot Coffee was ridiculous because it literally wasn't included in the game and the ONLY was to see it was to mod or hack it back in. And even then, it was just a boring minigame with some dry humping between two fully clothed characters. Even worse was the Oblivion thing, where the ESRB wanted to reclassify the game as AO because of nudity mods. Mods made by third parties. Where the nudity was from textures created by third parties, and no adult content whatsoever was included in the distributed game files and naked textures included painted-on underpants and bras. The ESRB in general is really weird, but, like others are saying, it's preferable both for game devs/publishers and for consumers that the industry regulates itself. See Germany for an example of why: Sorry, this game has [nazis/zombies/boobs/drugs/a swastika/apocalyptic or post-apocalyptic themes], so you can't release it here.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:23
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Supercar Gautier posted:I think there was an interview where Sakurai said the Ice Climbers might be a challenge, so now that there's a character select screen that doesn't have them on it (even though it doesn't quite look complete), people are declaring DEFINITELY CUT DUE TO 3DS POWER. People have been saying that they're a likely cut for a long time due to the AI reasons, like long before this leak. I'm not on the 100% "they're cut" boat, but haven't they been a default unlock in the last two games?
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Aug 26, 2014 19:26
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Supercar Gautier posted:I think there was an interview where Sakurai said the Ice Climbers might be a challenge, so now that there's a character select screen that doesn't have them on it (even though it doesn't quite look complete), people are declaring DEFINITELY CUT DUE TO 3DS POWER. I think again this was a misreading of the original Sakurai comment, which still gets repeated as "there will only be as many characters as Brawl" (something that by now is very obviously false). What he originally said was roughly: when asked how many characters there would be compared to Brawl he said "we are working to get as many characters in as we can but there are technical challenges with the 3DS". With no other context, this could mean that they wanted 90 characters but had to settle for 80, or that they wanted characters who could transform (like PT and Zelda used to do) but couldn't, to basically anything else that would pose a technical limitation. It wasn't till after the direct where it was revealed that there were no more transforming characters that people began to speculate that Ice Climbers might present a similar technical challenge. AFAIK there has never been anything that Sakurai has said directly outside of that initial super vague "there are technical challenges".
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Aug 26, 2014 19:28
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Funkmaster General posted:
I could be wrong myself, but as far as I remember they (successfully) reclassified it from T to M because the models had bare tits (or something?) and the game was significantly more violent than originally presented to them (decapitations if your skill gets high enough)
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Aug 26, 2014 19:31
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Funkmaster General posted:Hot Coffee was ridiculous because it literally wasn't included in the game and the ONLY was to see it was to mod or hack it back in. And even then, it was just a boring minigame with some dry humping between two fully clothed characters. We don't care about these, actually, It's just nazis and violence that the rating agency here has a problem with.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:33
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Volt Catfish posted:I could be wrong myself, but as far as I remember they (successfully) reclassified it from T to M because the models had bare tits (or something?) and the game was significantly more violent than originally presented to them (decapitations if your skill gets high enough) None of that is in the base game. It's just that Bethesda's games are easy to mod and the first thing everyone makes is a nude mode and an increased violence mod.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:35
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The Oblivion thing was actually kind of legit, in the sense that Oblivion has some M-Rated violence and gore that Bethesda apparently withheld. (Like, actually go into Oblivion and their are horribly mutilated naked corpses everywhere and torture/murder chambers full of blood.) The stupid part was that the initial 'nude mod' took the male nipple texture and put it on the female model, which the ESRB said meant that the content was 'already in the game'. FPzero posted:Is the 3DS really that bad in terms of power? Everyone keeps saying Ice Climbers would make it crash with 8 AIs running around but I've always felt like the 3DS was about on par with a Gamecube and Melee handled the ICs just fine. Of course I have no technical specs to compare but visually they look similar. Chaltab fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Aug 26, 2014 19:38
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Dunban posted:We don't care about these, actually, It's just nazis and violence that the rating agency here has a problem with. It seems like some of the most recent censors have been due to anal probing (South Park, Saint's Row) so maybe specifically sexual violence is a big no-no.
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