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hey you loving gamer nerds strap in because we're entering what seems like a bullshit-free zone. 
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Aug 26, 2014 20:14
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The Brown Menace posted:this is the sole issue here. they literally did just that, as they use one decimal in their out-of-10 scoring system, which thus makes it an out-of-100 scoring system. they looked at gone home, and decided to award it a full 100 out of 100. the question is why, and as mentioned, there's strong evidence pointing to the devs and the reviewers being all buddy-buddy before they reviewed the game
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Aug 26, 2014 20:15
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so is the entire beef that non branching semi-interactive stories (or whatever you want to call them) are sufficiently rare that they get lumped in with games even though they're not really like regular games, so people who like regular games are unhappy that people give good reviews to these story-non-games on gaming sites even though they aren't like the games the people who like regular games like? I mean, if you hate non branching semi-interactive stories, you could just read the drat reviews which make it perfectly clear that that's what this thing was, and not just skim over the metacritic score and buy it without looking at the body of the article Really this entire thing would be fixed by just removing numerical scores entirely and making people loving read for a change.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:16
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Fatkraken posted:so is the entire beef that non branching semi-interactive stories (or whatever you want to call them) are sufficiently rare that they get lumped in with games even though they're not really like regular games, so people who like regular games are unhappy that people give good reviews to these story-non-games on gaming sites even though they aren't like the games the people who like regular games like? yeah, totally
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Aug 26, 2014 20:17
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hating on gone home has become such a popular exercise that the cool thing to do is like gone home, again. gone home is good now.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:19
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Fatkraken posted:so is the entire beef that non branching semi-interactive stories (or whatever you want to call them) are sufficiently rare that they get lumped in with games even though they're not really like regular games, so people who like regular games are unhappy that people give good reviews to these story-non-games on gaming sites even though they aren't like the games the people who like regular games like? There's still the matter of these people pushing their own agenda and refusing to not force-feed every paragraph with bullshit impressions like "brilliant rush of visual mastery".
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Aug 26, 2014 20:20
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:hating on gone home has become such a popular exercise that the cool thing to do is like gone home, again. I played Gone Home yesterday because of all the haters. And by that I mean I read the wikipedia page on the game to get the full experience. And by read I mean I skimmed it.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:20
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Lazyfire posted:I played Gone Home yesterday because of all the haters. And by that I mean I read the wikipedia page on the game to get the full experience. And by read I mean I skimmed it. so good, right?
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Aug 26, 2014 20:21
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:so good, right? Gone Home is amazing. Just a shame it's also so boo-ring! I mean, that's what the Cryptkeeper says, anyways.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:22
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:so good, right? I give the Wikipedia article a 9/10. Good use of pictures, no big words.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:22
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horriblePencilist posted:There's still the matter of these people pushing their own agenda and refusing to not force-feed every paragraph with bullshit impressions like "brilliant rush of visual mastery". That happens because Game Journalists are terrible writers, on the whole, with a tendency towards verbal vomit (thesaurus optional).
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Aug 26, 2014 20:23
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ArbitraryC posted:I don't really think that's fair though, the scores are already inflated to this point. We've already given out 10/10s out so now if you go back and dont give anything a perfect score because nothing is perfect you've pretty much made it so all the highest rated games will be in the past forever and always amen. 10/10 doesn't mean perfect right now, just that the game is a great example of it's genre/what it set out to do. Which seems pretty fair, it's like getting a 100% on an essay in school or something. the point inflation is besides the point. there needs to be shades of scores between good, very good, and flawless games. and as mentioned, polygon uses an out-of-10 scoring system in name only. they use a decimal point, so it's out of 100 in reality. also being a perfect example of the genre/doing what it set out to do is a wonky as hell measuring stick, as in that case games like call of duty should be getting reviews around 95/100-100/100 each and every year, since they're perfect examples of their genre and deliver exactly on what they promise. or in which case, the widely panned medal of honor: warfighter should have gotten a 100/100 as well, since it was exactly what it set out to do and a perfect example of the modern military shooter genre
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Aug 26, 2014 20:23
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Lazyfire posted:I give the Wikipedia article a 9/10. Good use of pictures, no big words. sis gay. so what
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Aug 26, 2014 20:23
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are there any sites that rate games on a really basic buy/rent/skip scale?
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Aug 26, 2014 20:24
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Hey check out this second rate Myst map my friend made in the hammer editor, I am hereby declaring it a perfect 10.0 and claiming that it revolutionizes games as a medium even though Myst was released literally decades earlier and has better puzzles + story and takes longer to play through Super Nintendos and a lesbian jpeg
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Aug 26, 2014 20:24
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so long gay sis
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Aug 26, 2014 20:25
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Real hurthling! posted:are there any sites that rate games on a really basic buy/rent/skip scale? You wouldn't get a games company or publisher that would even acknowledge your existance with that scale to give you review copies. Unless you gave everything a 'Buy' result.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:25
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Rad Tad posted:sis gay. so what Stay Safe Gay Sis
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Aug 26, 2014 20:26
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Gone Home is way better than Depression Quest. I'll even go as far as to say it's better than Dear Esther, which absolute shite.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:27
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The sister's voice actress really sells the adolescent uncertainty and fear of coming out of the closet. It's a touching game, unironically.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:28
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horriblePencilist posted:There's still the matter of these people pushing their own agenda and refusing to not force-feed every paragraph with bullshit impressions like "brilliant rush of visual mastery". lovely gushing reviews and conflicts of interest are nothing new though, especially on the internet. Remember that embarrassing AICN review of Blade II? I guess I find it hard to give a poo poo because I never buy games on day 1, so by the time I get to them there are enough user reviews and general chit chat about them that I have a pretty decent idea what's worth playing. Games don't vanish a week after being released, unless it's an MMO whose user base will evaporate in 3 months there's no good reason NOT to wait a little while and see if all the hype had anything behind it
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Aug 26, 2014 20:28
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in an old thread about gone home someone was upset about the trees and probably wasn't joking
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Aug 26, 2014 20:29
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The other problem with Gone Home is that it was sold with the impression that it was some kind of spooky scary game, like a survival horror or exploring a haunted house. It was a total bait and switch.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:29
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XK posted:The other problem with Gone Home is that it was sold with the impression that it was some kind of spooky scary game, like a survival horror or exploring a haunted house. It was a total bait and switch. I'm sure there was at least one gamer who got freaked by finding out their in-game sister was a gay
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Aug 26, 2014 20:30
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Real hurthling! posted:are there any sites that rate games on a really basic buy/rent/skip scale? Yes. Kotaku. 
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Aug 26, 2014 20:30
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XK posted:The other problem with Gone Home is that it was sold with the impression that it was some kind of spooky scary game, like a survival horror or exploring a haunted house. It was a total bait and switch. Going in blind I left on every light in the house, so finding a note from the dad bitching about you doing it all the time was funny and a nice touch.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:31
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The Brown Menace posted:the point inflation is besides the point. there needs to be shades of scores between good, very good, and flawless games. and as mentioned, polygon uses an out-of-10 scoring system in name only. they use a decimal point, so it's out of 100 in reality. also being a perfect example of the genre/doing what it set out to do is a wonky as hell measuring stick, as in that case games like call of duty should be getting reviews around 95/100-100/100 each and every year, since they're perfect examples of their genre and deliver exactly on what they promise. or in which case, the widely panned medal of honor: warfighter should have gotten a 100/100 as well, since it was exactly what it set out to do and a perfect example of the modern military shooter genre Grades in school are really about the best comparison that I still feel is fair. If you get a 100 on an essay it doesn't mean you're the next brilliant writer it just means you met and surpassed expectations without much or anything to detract from that given the context of the class.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:31
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XK posted:The other problem with Gone Home is that it was sold with the impression that it was some kind of spooky scary game, like a survival horror or exploring a haunted house. It was a total bait and switch. Steam Workshop support will add a mod that changes your sister's secret lover into Big Spooky Slenderman
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Aug 26, 2014 20:31
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XK posted:The other problem with Gone Home is that it was sold with the impression that it was some kind of spooky scary game, like a survival horror or exploring a haunted house. It was a total bait and switch. um it's called an Evolving Experience it turns from a scary house at night to a heartwarming tale of hopeless teenage love and rebellion
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Aug 26, 2014 20:32
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Within the first few responses, people are already going at him again for when he used the word "retarded" while talking about PSN. What a total shitpile, JonTron should just respond to every single tweet by calling them a retard.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:32
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yeah gone home never deserved 10/10, you'd never give that to a movie unless it's citizen kane i actually can't really think of a game that deserves a 10/10, that could not be improved in some way. deus ex maybe, it's definitely close but a 10?
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Aug 26, 2014 20:34
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 Review scores aren't really the issue. The issue is game journalists and devs clearly have an agenda and push games amongst their circle while dismissing everything else. People get threatened for speaking out against it, we have evidence and people still refuse to admit there's an issue here.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:35
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supermechagodizilla shouldd review depression quest, gone home and other video games that pretend to be an art, then he can write a long post i wont read exposing them as shallow bullshit
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Aug 26, 2014 20:36
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ArbitraryC posted:Grades in school are really about the best comparison that I still feel is fair. If you get a 100 on an essay it doesn't mean you're the next brilliant writer it just means you met and surpassed expectations without much or anything to detract from that given the context of the class. once again, by this definition, medal of honor: warfighter is a 100/100. if you expect a modern military shooter with all the modern military shooter trappings, medal of honor: warfighter is pretty much what you'd find pictured in a gay irrelevant poo poo encyclopedia under the term modern military shooter ArbitraryC posted:I guess that's fair I mean I'm not a game critic I was just spitballing what I interpretted a 10/10 as. It's still better than pretending it's meant to be a "perfect game" or whatever and getting mad that they aren't following your definition. so if you disagree with the above, what additional metrics should be used to determine what is a 100/100 (not a 10/10, which isn't the system polygon uses)
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Aug 26, 2014 20:36
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horriblePencilist posted:Review scores aren't really the issue. The issue is game journalists and devs clearly have an agenda and push games amongst their circle while dismissing everything else. People get threatened for speaking out against it, we have evidence and people still refuse to admit there's an issue here.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:37
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XK posted:Within the first few responses, people are already going at him again for when he used the word "retarded" while talking about PSN. What a total shitpile, JonTron should just respond to every single tweet by calling them a retard. How are all of his fans with mental disabilities supposed to laugh at psn outages when he insults them that way? you's ur brain
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Aug 26, 2014 20:37
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rudatron posted:yeah gone home never deserved 10/10, you'd never give that to a movie unless it's citizen kane age of empires 2 with the "the conquerors" expansion, maybe
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Aug 26, 2014 20:38
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ArbitraryC posted:Yeah that's kinda beaten to death itt though and at this point we're all pretty much just waiting around for the next big thing to go down over this. It's not like there's any gbs posters siding with zoe. me and forums poster 'a cop' eiffel towered her an now support ms quinn in her fight against you misogynerds
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A. Beaverhausen posted:The sister's voice actress really sells the adolescent uncertainty and fear of coming out of the closet. It's a touching game, unironically. Wait, she was in the closet the whole time? I guess I had the bad ending then, because I've found out she was a lesbian, but never find the closet she was in. And I've opened pretty much every drawer in every cupboard, so I don't know how I could have missed it.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:39
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