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The Brown Menace posted:once again, by this definition, medal of honor: warfighter is a 100/100. if you expect a modern military shooter with all the modern military shooter trappings, medal of honor: warfighter is pretty much what you'd find pictured in a gay irrelevant poo poo encyclopedia under the term modern military shooter I mean you're really blatantly trying to employ a fallacy in here by trying to get me to craft for you a definition that would work great for video game reviews when I already told you I don't have one, all I was originally saying was your previous one about 10/10=perfect in every conceivable way is clearly wrong and not how anyone uses it historically or presently within game scores.
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rudatron posted:yeah gone home never deserved 10/10, you'd never give that to a movie unless it's citizen kane Basically any game where you can look it over and say "okay a version of this game probably can't exist that's better than itself" Age of Empires 2, Smash Bros Melee, Uncharted 2, Civ 4
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FAROOQ posted:Did Kotaku really step back and say "we in no way should be doing this thing" and then stop doing it?
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ArbitraryC posted:There might be a caveat about originality in there I dunno. Sequels that repeat the thing the first one did usually have worse scores right? Gone home was pretty novel for what it did. gone home is far from original or novel, and not all sequels are stale rehashes of the previous titles the point is that 10/10 (100/100) is not what gone home deserved by any stretch of the imagination, and that there is something else going on behind the scenes which ties into the general state of nepotism and corruption in video games journalism, which is the whole point of the zoe quinn thing
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a cop posted:Does anyone have a picture of zoe's rear end... Reminder to all of you that this was NEVER about zoe's rear end *posts another imgur gallery of her 5,000 rear end pictures*
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Paladinus posted:Gone Home is way better than Depression Quest. I'll even go as far as to say it's better than Dear Esther, which absolute shite. Yep. Gone Home was just fine. Can't even comprehend hating on it. Like, I would rather eat glass than play Call of Duty, but I still understand and accept why people like it. It's just video games man. Depression Quest wasn't nearly as good at describing depression as this stupid blog post that I think is unironically pretty awesome: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html
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gone home wasn't highly praised b/c games journalism is corrupt or due to nepotism, though
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The Brown Menace posted:the point is that 10/10 (100/100) is not what gone home deserved by any stretch of the imagination, and that there is something else going on behind the scenes which ties into the general state of nepotism and corruption in video games journalism, which is the whole point of the zoe quinn thing When the reviewer tweeted at the creator like "I'm writing the review of your game xD" and he literally replied ":3" it became pretty safe to assume the 10.0 score that followed was disingenuous at best
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ArbitraryC posted:Link? http://kotaku.com/a-brief-note-about-the-continued-discussion-about-kotak-1627041269 quote:We've also agreed that funding any developers through services such as Patreon introduce needless potential conflicts of interest and are therefore nixing any such contributions by our writers.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:gone home wasn't highly praised b/c games journalism is corrupt or due to nepotism, though in the case of polygon, it was
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The Brown Menace posted:the point is that 10/10 (100/100) is not what gone home deserved by any stretch of the imagination Really the only place I ever heard about gone home was on SA with goons bashing it and it doesn't seem like there was anywhere near the evidence of a scandal as there was with Zoe.
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The Brown Menace posted:here's the gone home nepotism loool "tweeting at someone == nepotism" haha gently caress all gamers forever
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gonna be funny when zoey's patreon falls to like 10 bux after kotaku writers are forced to pull out
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lol that kotaku, which i'm pretty sure is some eve online goon squad thing, had to make a policy forbidding their writers to donate to the sugar daddy website
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You know, these would have been good steps to make BEFORE the angry bloodthirsty mob was surrounding the castle demanding your head.
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That seems like kind of a non-apology considering how they handled everything else relating to Zoe. I honestly just want to see her thrown under the bus at this point.
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Rad Tad posted:after the kotaku writers are forced to pull out lol tell me about it
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The Brown Menace posted:in the case of polygon, it was Same with IGN, apparently.
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Lobster Harmonica posted:lol tell me about it 
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Gone Home's about lesbians, Jesus. All positive reviews are mainly based on how bold and revolutionary the game is. That's exactly why it's got 10/10. If it was about a rebellious white guy hanging out with punks the game would be even less original and would have no value whatsoever. As it is the game's story was inventive in a way that it heavily featured an LGBT character with focus on her gayness and what it meant to her. I don't care about the lesbian angle, but I can see where the hype is coming from. Because it's not that loving hard to grasp.
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gently caress the ROW posted:lol that kotaku, which i'm pretty sure is some eve online goon squad thing, had to make a policy forbidding their writers to donate to the sugar daddy website Themittani.com is the eve goon news site. I like to think that it is better than kotaku.
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Slanderer posted:loool "tweeting at someone == nepotism" also appearing on their show multiple times and being all friendly with them and obviously having some sort of relationship outside of the boundaries of professionalism
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Rad Tad posted:gonna be funny when zoey's patreon falls to like 10 bux after kotaku writers are forced to pull out There's an obvious joke here, but I'll let someone else make it.
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The Brown Menace posted:totalbiscuit's stream is gonna start soon, if you're interested I left my headphones at home; is any of the controversy mentioned?
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The Brown Menace posted:the point inflation is besides the point. there needs to be shades of scores between good, very good, and flawless games. haha loving video games aren't graded on some absolute scale of game perfection. weirdo spergs like Ulillillia might arbitrarily assign impossibly exact values to everything, but Real People don't do that because reviewing media isnt the same as grading a math test. game sites realized that giving a PRECISE NUMERICAL FORMULA OF SCORING PERFECTION was retarded because it is entirely unrelated to the question of "is this a good loving game?"
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Paladinus posted:Gone Home's about lesbians, Jesus. All positive reviews are mainly based on how bold and revolutionary the game is. That's exactly why it's got 10/10. If it was about a rebellious white guy hanging out with punks the game would be even less original and would have no value whatsoever. As it is the game's story was inventive in a way that it heavily featured an LGBT character with focus on her gayness and what it meant to her. If Lesbian Myst did this good then maybe we should create lesbian toejam & earl as a social experiment and see if it also scores a 10.0 slowbeef posted:I left my headphones at home; is any of the controversy mentioned? Nah they're just discussing Arkham Asylum at length for some reason
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Paladinus posted:Gone Home's about lesbians, Jesus. All positive reviews are mainly based on how bold and revolutionary the game is. That's exactly why it's got 10/10. If it was about a rebellious white guy hanging out with punks the game would be even less original and would have no value whatsoever. As it is the game's story was inventive in a way that it heavily featured an LGBT character with focus on her gayness and what it meant to her. this is idiotic because gone home was released more than 2 years after dragon age 2, and more than a year after mass effect 3, both massive AAA titles published by a multi-billion dollar company which included much more overt LGBT themes
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slowbeef posted:I left my headphones at home; is any of the controversy mentioned? not so far
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The Brown Menace posted:not so far Kinda have a feeling they're going to avoid it...
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The Brown Menace posted:this is idiotic because gone home was released more than 2 years after dragon age 2, and more than a year after mass effect 3, both massive AAA titles published by a multi-billion dollar company which included much more overt LGBT themes You're joking right? Please? Hawkesexual companions and one twobit romance didn't cover LGBT themes. The inclusion was appreciated and poo poo but that isn't a comparison.
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Paladinus posted:Gone Home's about lesbians, Jesus. All positive reviews are mainly based on how bold and revolutionary the game is. That's exactly why it's got 10/10. If it was about a rebellious white guy hanging out with punks the game would be even less original and would have no value whatsoever. As it is the game's story was inventive in a way that it heavily featured an LGBT character with focus on her gayness and what it meant to her.
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Papers, Please let me detain illegal aliens and shoot commies 10/10
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ArbitraryC posted:Says who? I mean if you look on metacritic plenty of users gave it 10/10 too. When you rate a thread 5 do you think that's the best thread ever for which there is no better or did you just mean you really liked it at the time? I mean it seems like kind of an artsy game that would be good at milking positive reviews. Right now, as a slight derail, and I know that I can't explain this in any good way, but I'm sort of thinking a lot of some of this is coming from the 'games are art' audience of the industry. Games can be 'artistic' but they aren't 'art', most vocally seemed to come from the outsiders to the industry. I think that created a push from people to be intentionally contradictory to prove games ARE art by creating a bunch of artsy games, and I think that it maybe even leads to the audience who wants to prove that to upvote things to cite them as evidence that "This IS art!"
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Paladinus posted:Gone Home's about lesbians, Jesus. All positive reviews are mainly based on how bold and revolutionary the game is. That's exactly why it's got 10/10. If it was about a rebellious white guy hanging out with punks the game would be even less original and would have no value whatsoever. As it is the game's story was inventive in a way that it heavily featured an LGBT character with focus on her gayness and what it meant to her. I don't think so, for me the game was about 90s riot grrl culture, not just "lesbians". If the game had been about your little sister falling in love with a punk rock BOY instead of a punk rock GIRL the story could have hit nearly all the same beats. The parents weren't freaked out about you sister being gay so much as they were about the radical imagery of the scene Sam had gotten into. It's about your little innocent sister realizing that she doesn't fit in, and to ignore the massive effort the game makes to connect this directly to subculture rather than just "being gay" is to wildly miss the game's point. In my opinion.
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