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Lobster Harmonica posted:It ain't, Sakurai said in an interview that he made it one of his main goals this time around his obsession with samus' rear end is still unsettling tho.
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BigFatFlyingBloke posted:It started as sort of that, then the gaming press stuck their finger in and stirred it around releasing all the general pent up discontent with them that had been festering under the surface for years. (Posted 150 pages ago but reposting): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9cOzRQmO1M BottledBodhisvata posted:Don't women buy the most games of any market these days? I mean, if there is genuine problems for women in game design to get their voices heard or to make games, that's a genuine problem. Can't...rather shouldn't that be addressed specifically? Do the Sarksesian Feminists have any actual specific goal, besides outrage? 52% Male 48% Female. http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/esa_ef_2014.pdf Average age 31 and this is including 'facebook candy crush soccer moms'. quote:The number of female gamers age 50 and older increased by 32%from 2012 to 2013 But the money is in 18-30 year olds as they buy the most games which are full retail price. 30% of online games are free/causal/social and such. Then there is the scrabble clone boardgame sites and such. You get the idea, mobile phone gamers is almost everyone. Even Prime Minister David Cameron plays "fruit ninja", the difference is free / £1 games vs £40-60 video games. Fluo fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Obligatory Toast posted:his obsession with samus' rear end is still unsettling tho. 
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Aug 30, 2014 19:23
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Why is that 14 yo girl topless?
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Aug 30, 2014 19:25
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Fluo posted:52% Male 48% Female. Young women are finally as pathetic and lonely as young men. Congratulations, feminism.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:25
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I recommend clicking that link and checking it out. Top selling video games of 2013 1: GTA 5 2: COD Ghost 3: Madden NFL 25 4: Battlefield 4 5: Assassin's Creed 4 6: NBA 2k14 7: COD Black Ops 2 8: Just Dance 2014 9: Minecraft 10: Disney Infinity The top selling computer games however is Startcraft 2, sim city 2013 then tons of sims 3 and expansion packs and starter packs, and that World of Warcraft expansion. 2013 made a total of $21.53 billion, $15.39 billion in content, $4.26 billion hardware and $1.88 billion in accessories. You get the idea. D:
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Obligatory Toast posted:his obsession with samus' rear end is still unsettling tho. Is a nice rear end though
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Aug 30, 2014 19:32
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Fluo posted:the difference is free / £1 games vs £40-60 video games. Except that many of these free games are played by morons who spend lots of $$$ because they are inpatient or don't mind paying to finish a level.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:33
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:What?
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Waltzing Along posted:Except that many of these free games are played by morons who spend lots of $$$ because they are inpatient or don't mind paying to finish a level. What I'm getting at is there is more money in selling GTA5 rather then selling a mobile game with pay to win mechanic. Facebook candy crush types aren't going to read about games coming out or reviews of the next AAA title.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:39
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Fluo posted:What I'm getting at is there is more money in selling GTA5 rather then selling a mobile game with pay to win mechanic. This is true, the top F2P games like league of legends and poo poo are still trying to figure out how to come up with a freemium model that can come remotely close to matching the immediate payout of selling a blockbuster title for $60
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I wish i was the first dude to think of selling pinball games in office supply stores. Getting rich off that dad money.
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Lobster Harmonica posted:This is true, the top F2P games like league of legends and poo poo are still trying to figure out how to come up with a freemium model that can come remotely close to matching the immediate payout of selling a blockbuster title for $60 This sounds pretty sarcastic. The point was 'facebook candy crush soccer moms' aren't really the target market for places like giantbomb, kotaku and such.
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I think a case could be made that the majority of people who purchase AAA games aren't going to Kotaku, Gawker et al either.
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canada jezus posted:I wish i was the first dude to think of selling pinball games in office supply stores. Getting rich off that dad money. Oh man, I remember in the mid 90s those going for £10-20 a pop and everytime I walked into one I'd see some guy pick one up as a causal break between excel because they got sick of solitaire / minesweeper haha.
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EasternBronze posted:I think a case could be made that the majority of people who purchase AAA games aren't going to Kotaku, Gawker et al either. You'd be surprised, a lot google the video game they are going to buy or they have preordered on their ps3/ps4 and give IGN many clicks.
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Fluo posted:This sounds pretty sarcastic. Wow weird, I was actually seriousposting
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Lobster Harmonica posted:Wow weird, I was actually seriousposting Oh haha sorry dude, reading all of this beyond-parody no-selfawareness from gaming journalists types has made my brain cynical past week or so. I read it as ":eyerolls: yeah ofcourse a game thats free is going to try and match AAA title money huehuehue they're different markets". Sorry bro. D:
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Lobster Harmonica posted:This is true, the top F2P games like league of legends and poo poo are still trying to figure out how to come up with a freemium model that can come remotely close to matching the immediate payout of selling a blockbuster title for $60 A yearly compendium like Dota 2 would probably be really effective. Base purchase of $10 for a bunch of great poo poo, then if you put in more money/goals, you get better/additional rewards. Like remember, the TI4 prize pool was only 1/4th of compendium moneys, so they made a shitload of money off the compendiums, and the prize pool mechanic got positive word of mouth out about Valve supporting their scene (Riot was really ticked off about it). Like how long does 12 cosmetic items (not entire skins) and a few couriers cost to make? Because those were the rewards excluding the poo poo like weather and emoticons that were getting done no matter what.
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Fluo posted:What I'm getting at is there is more money in selling GTA5 rather then selling a mobile game with pay to win mechanic. Facebook candy crush types aren't going to read about games coming out or reviews of the next AAA title. HAHAHAHAHAHHAa noooo. http://www.statista.com/statistics/263988/top-grossing-mobile-ios-gaming-apps-ranked-by-daily-revenue/ DAILY Revenue Clash of Clans 1,221,606 Candy Crush Saga 966,265 Kim Kardashian: Hollywood 625,296 Game of War - Fire Age 296,406 Slotomania - Free Video Slots Games 233,917 Farm Heroes Saga 196,236 Hay Day 164,520 Boom Beach 138,770 Big Fish Casino 118,985 Pet Rescue Saga 105,165 Also think that site might be US only. There are some asian ones I have heard about that make money far faster.
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Lobster Harmonica posted:This is true, the top F2P games like league of legends and poo poo are still trying to figure out how to come up with a freemium model that can come remotely close to matching the immediate payout of selling a blockbuster title for $60 Riot Games Products League of Legends Revenue US $927 million (April 2013 - March 2014)[3]
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HOLY gently caress i underestimated the market on retarded phone games
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lovely Wizard posted:A yearly compendium like Dota 2 would probably be really effective. Base purchase of $10 for a bunch of great poo poo, then if you put in more money/goals, you get better/additional rewards. Like remember, the TI4 prize pool was only 1/4th of compendium moneys, so they made a shitload of money off the compendiums, and the prize pool mechanic got positive word of mouth out about Valve supporting their scene (Riot was really ticked off about it). I've heard that booster packs full of random loot sell abnormally well in like every F2P MMO
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Obligatory Toast posted:his obsession with samus' rear end is still unsettling tho. There is nothing wrong with showing admiration towards the rear end. Entire ballads have been written just about it's glory.
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Torka posted:Riot Games welp I just got objectively blown the gently caress out that's what I get for reiterating poo poo I've heard word of mouth without verifying it
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Why doesn't Candy Crush market to me based on my interest in violent encounters and sexualized images?
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Lobster Harmonica posted:welp I just got objectively blown the gently caress out it's cool I was surprised too, I was expecting you to be right when I looked it up
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MOBAs are all garbage though that part is true.
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Lobster Harmonica posted:I've heard that booster packs full of random loot sell abnormally well in like every F2P MMO poo poo yeah they do, but I was just talking about the immediate payoff part. Lobster Harmonica posted:welp I just got objectively blown the gently caress out Yeah, I may hate the poo poo out of Riot, but they are making mad money. Not why I hate them though.
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Anal Papist posted:HAHAHAHAHAHHAa noooo. $1million vs $1billion. Torka posted:Riot Games  This is more what I'm talking.
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Fluo posted:$1million vs $1billion. Yes $1 million is their DAILY revenue from the US market ignoring Europe and Asia, for a lovely phone game that costs barely anything to make compared to astandard AAA game let alone GTA. GTA 5 Cost £170 Million Clash of Clans' Developer Supercell Reports $829 Million In Revenue http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspe...nish-community/
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Anal Papist posted:Yes $1 million is their DAILY revenue from the US market ignoring Europe and Asia, for a lovely phone game that costs barely anything to make compared to astandard AAA game let alone GTA. People are insane.
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Anal Papist posted:HAHAHAHAHAHHAa noooo. Facebook/mobile game prices are ridiculous for what you get. I play farmville 2, and the price points for that game are something like: $10 gets you enough farmbucks to buy 1 (of the cheaper) farm animals or decorations $20 one of the expensive farm animals $50 about half a dozen $100 will last you a lot longer because the more you pay the more farmbucks you get but still $100 will you get maybe a 3rd of the available pay-to-play content that is always avaialbe, and they are constantly cycling new content every few weeks. $200 will last you even longer some games I've seen in-game currency purchases where the high end ones are $350 The price inflation in casual gaming compared to core gaming is nuts. And it works, people do buy this stuff.
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It blows my mind that people pay more money for poorly made games that they sink enormous amounts of time into.
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I work for a smaller game company, can confirm that it's crazy to hear all the corporate-psycho-babble about courting potential and returning users. The marketing department is a strange and terrifying beast. Also  at games journalists who think women can't be as exploitive, mean, or abusive as men. You should see the number of death threats we've received, a lot if not most of them are from women.
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Simstim posted:Facebook/mobile game prices are ridiculous for what you get. I play farmville 2, and the price points for that game are something like: $350?  I feel I've learnt something today that I wish I didn't know.  Thanks Cuckquest thread for teaching me those cheap games can milk insane amount of cash.
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Lobster Harmonica posted:welp I just got objectively blown the gently caress out OTOH the dilemma of f2p games is that when they don't get super-popular they make zero money. Traditional AAA tends to make back enough money to at least cover most of their expenses. A f2p game that sinks into the depths of the app store or steam makes nothing, which is why most of them are low-effort garbage churned out as fast as possible. Brannock posted:so much of that profit though is from companies figuring out how to tickle the gambling impulse in people's brains, it's insanely psychologically exploitative
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