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There were toxxes both ways on this, weren't there? Come forward and own up/gloat.
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Aug 31, 2014 13:27
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neetengie posted:Ob Nixilis confirmed the fetches back in M15. We didn't listen! I love how this was said a number of times in half-jest, with a "...nah...", and then it turned out to be spot-on. I really love that Modern just became a whole lot more affordable.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:00
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Fetches kinda came out of nowhere but this is pretty awesome.. I was already going to buy a box of Khans. Now I'm going to be drafting it every week too. And I don't even draft that often.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:09
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Between mana confluence and fetches, I'll happily keep playing variations of burn/big red. That Sarkan planeswalker is gross for certain burn decks that tend to go into topdeck mode if the game goes too long.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:19
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bhsman posted:Stuff Sleep of Bronze posted:There were toxxes both ways on this, weren't there? Come forward and own up/gloat.  myself on it, but I did stick my neck pretty far out on both of those points.Veyrall posted:They are never reprinting fetch lands. Veyrall posted:The Sultai mechanic is not delve. Veyrall posted:That being said, if this ends up being in Khans...I will still maintain that I was right, and that Wizards screwed up. Veyrall fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Aug 31, 2014 14:20
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What a Judas posted:Don't hold your breath for this. jassi007 posted:There is no possible way a large set can sustain a land about $30 with standard playable mythics. I just don't see it. The EV on cracking boxes would be better than what they sell for and thus drive the price down. Of course, the prices for the Onslaught ones and the judge promo ones are probably pretty safe, it's just the new ones that will be cheap. For a while. (get 'em get 'em get 'em)
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Aug 31, 2014 14:21
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Older printings of the Fetches will fall a little but they won't get to the prices these new ones will while they're being opened. Having all 10 in Modern will relieve some of the price pressure on the Zendikar ones though. Once these start being opened all the Fetches will start to fall a little bit and the new ones will probably start high-ish in price but will steadily fall until the release of Louie at which point Khans will no longer be opened in Draft and prices will have hit their low.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:34
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LordSaturn posted:Of course, the prices for the Onslaught ones and the judge promo ones are probably pretty safe, it's just the new ones that will be cheap. For a while. (get 'em get 'em get 'em) You are right about old prices, they'll fall some. I think the gw, rg, rb ones will fall off more, maybe by 50% like Thoughseize? They aren't that popular in legacy. Although they will become useful in modern. The blue ones won't fall off as much.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:42
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Off-topic to the announces, but is there any way to test a deck in MTG Online without actually owning the cards in your collection? I just started an account there and stumbled on a deck list that looks like fun for Standard, but buying everything for it would be about $100 and I don't wanna throw that down and end up with an unfun or uncompetitive deck.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:57
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On magiccardmarket the prices of ZEN fetches like Scalding Tarn and Misty Rainforest have already dropped by like 10 euros today, I think. Mistys war around 35 in the morning (lowest NM), now they're around 25. I bought 3 mistys a few months ago, but it's cool cause I need them to play anyway.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:57
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YorexTheMad posted:Off-topic to the announces, but is there any way to test a deck in MTG Online without actually owning the cards in your collection? I just started an account there and stumbled on a deck list that looks like fun for Standard, but buying everything for it would be about $100 and I don't wanna throw that down and end up with an unfun or uncompetitive deck. You can test stuff on cockatrice, check out https://www.woogerworks.com
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Aug 31, 2014 14:58
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Sarcastro posted:I love how this was said a number of times in half-jest, with a "...nah...", and then it turned out to be spot-on. To be fair, if you're playing a six-drop specifically to hose lands that can be activated in response, you might be a very silly person. That's just a nice little bonus on top of hosing tutoring in general.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:02
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Cactrot posted:My one regret since the printing of back to nature, is that I won't be able to play junk constellation and put my opponent on tilt by singing the lyrics to Vincent as I draw cards off of eidolon of blossoms. FWIW, I've been piloting Rock Stars/BG Constellation for two months and nobody has dropped Back to Nature on me.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:15
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I nearly pulled the trigger on a $60 Misty on Deckbox last Friday for my Esper Mill deck  Not only can I probably save some money now, but I can get better fetch coverage for that deck now with allied fetches! Not even mad about the three Marsh Flats I already grabbed at $35-40.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:16
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Sleep of Bronze posted:There were toxxes both ways on this, weren't there? Come forward and own up/gloat. Mine was specifically regarding the ZEN fetches. I think everyone else, too.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:26
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It's going to be a pretty interesting test to see if common/uncommon outlast cards all end up being slightly worse than Chronomaton (Instant-Speed Outlast 1)
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Aug 31, 2014 15:30
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I for one welcome our new horrendous-border fetchland overlords. The original printings will still retain a premium because they are way prettier and many people will prefer the old border, and more people will be able to play modern/legacy who were priced out previously.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:32
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Woapalanne posted:To be fair, if you're playing a six-drop specifically to hose lands that can be activated in response, you might be a very silly person. That's just a nice little bonus on top of hosing tutoring in general. Yeah, I know, it's just fun.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:35
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Lurchington posted:It's going to be a pretty interesting test to see if common/uncommon outlast cards all end up being slightly worse than Chronomaton (Instant-Speed Outlast 1) Outlast doesn't tap, though, does it? You can pump as much mana as you want into it.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:45
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goferchan posted:Outlast doesn't tap, though, does it? You can pump as much mana as you want into it.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:47
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ShadeofBlue posted:I can't think of any non-mythic rares that ever hit $30 while in print recently, although I feel like there must have been some. In any case, I hope (and do believe) that you are wrong. Still, a few months from now will definitely be the time to pick up 20 fetches. Thragtusk probably would have if he hadn't been in like 5 event decks.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:53
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goferchan posted:Outlast doesn't tap, though, does it? You can pump as much mana as you want into it. Outlast taps. It's in the Reminder Text.
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Aug 31, 2014 15:55
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Cactrot posted:Arid mesa will be...? The dandruff infested scalp of dragon head hair.
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Aug 31, 2014 16:01
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Mine was specifically regarding the ZEN fetches. I think everyone else, too. Toxxing on the Zendikar fetches instead of the ones that were more likely to be reprinted (just to get them into Modern) seems like a great way to try and appear confident about things while being less likely to have to actually back that up. Especially when most of the discussion around that time was about reprinting the allied fetches. Still, there are two more sets in the block...
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Aug 31, 2014 16:13
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Jabor posted:Toxxing on the Zendikar fetches instead of the ones that were more likely to be reprinted (just to get them into Modern) seems like a great way to try and appear confident about things while being less likely to have to actually back that up. Especially when most of the discussion around that time was about reprinting the allied fetches. And this set's theme is change...
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Aug 31, 2014 16:21
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Mechanics of Khans of Tarkir. Wierd to see an article go up on Sunday.
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Aug 31, 2014 16:25
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Calling it now, the zendikar fetches are going to be in the third set and have the reverse theme, ie, they're going to depict dragons everywhere and say "where there were no dragons there are dragons"
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Aug 31, 2014 16:26
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Cernunnos posted:Mechanics of Khans of Tarkir.        
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Aug 31, 2014 16:26
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Cernunnos posted:Mechanics of Khans of Tarkir. So the new mechanic is "power 4 or greater", they just slapped an ability word on it 
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Aug 31, 2014 16:27
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I just pulled the trigger on half a set of painlands that I would probably use.
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Aug 31, 2014 16:29
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WHy does a green/blue card have zero green mechanics 
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Aug 31, 2014 16:31
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Is he referring to Ajani? That's adorable. 
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Aug 31, 2014 16:34
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Count Bleck posted:Is he referring to Ajani? I'm pretty sure he's referring to his own spark awakening. In last week's Uncharted Realms we learned that he basically had a dragongasm on a battle and set fire to, well, everything. netcat posted:WHy does a green/blue card have zero green mechanics The Temur mechanic will probably play with big creature ETB effects. "Build around ETB power/toughness effects" is occasionally a GU effect, see Evolve and the M15 GU "deck". Zorak fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Aug 31, 2014 16:36
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netcat posted:WHy does a green/blue card have zero green mechanics The green mechanic is "being efficiently costed"
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Aug 31, 2014 16:39
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That artifact is cool as hell to have at common, and that Bond-Kin actually gives me hope for Outlast being useful.
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Aug 31, 2014 16:40
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Kasonic posted:That artifact is cool as hell to have at common, and that Bond-Kin actually gives me hope for Outlast being useful. That Bond-Kin makes me sad that the Evolve mechanic is rotating out when it rotates in.  Phalanx Leader makes that card bonkers though.
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Aug 31, 2014 16:41
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I'm reading Ferocity as "If you control Polukranos/Stormbreath Dragon <thing happens>."
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Aug 31, 2014 16:41
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Zemyla posted:Hey guys? I found this convincing, for the record.
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These cards are all fairly efficient and seem great for limited. Except for anything with Delve, that mechanic is going to need some serious enablers not to suck.
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