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mcmagic posted:I landed a Stony Silence turn 2 both SB games and lost. It's loving unreal. Stony Silence isn't amazing vs pod. You haven't actually stopped anything, you've just made it harder for them to do their thing. You also did this by spending a spell so you're not really ahead. Pod still has Chord to tutor things out and it's a creature based strategy so the longer you durdle the longer they're hitting you for 4-5 a turn.
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I think I'll stop playing standard constructed until the second Khans set hit and just exclusively play limited. With fetches now in the picture, along with this tri-colored block, the money required to get those duals will be a bit too much for me at the moment. 
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So which clan is Tarmogoyf going to be in?  Monsieur Mango posted:I think I'll stop playing standard constructed until the second Khans set hit and just exclusively play limited. With fetches now in the picture, along with this tri-colored block, the money required to get those duals will be a bit too much for me at the moment. Fetches will be like 10 bucks in Standard. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Sep 1, 2014 04:57
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Is there a Magic Celebration / Free Magic Day again this year?Monsieur Mango posted:I think I'll stop playing standard constructed until the second Khans set hit and just exclusively play limited. With fetches now in the picture, along with this tri-colored block, the money required to get those duals will be a bit too much for me at the moment. If you've been able to afford to play standard with Shocks, you'll be able to afford to play standard with Fetches.
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NovemberMike posted:Stony Silence isn't amazing vs pod. You haven't actually stopped anything, you've just made it harder for them to do their thing. You also did this by spending a spell so you're not really ahead. Pod still has Chord to tutor things out and it's a creature based strategy so the longer you durdle the longer they're hitting you for 4-5 a turn. He didn't resolve chord during our match. He just rolled me with dudes and I drew like poo poo... The other pod deck I lost to was a Kiki Pod player who seemed to have no idea what he was doing and of course I flood out 2 games in a row. I'm used to playing Twin so losing to pod decks is a new jarring experience....
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Sep 1, 2014 05:12
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This Painter vs Miracles game on the SCG stream is an absolute delight.
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Sep 1, 2014 05:14
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Can't stop watching that video of the fetches being revealed at PAX. What a cool moment :]
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Sep 1, 2014 05:20
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This is the stupid deck I lost to in the first round of the Open yesterday. Apparently the kid finished 11th... http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=72320
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Sep 1, 2014 05:22
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if you're like me a like to get a playset of modern/eternal/EDH relevant duals when they're cheaper, most of the theros scrylands are between $3 and $6 TCG low. G/W and G/B are the outliers at $7 and $8 respectively. I picked up ~2 of everything under $5 and 1 of the rest.
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Sep 1, 2014 05:23
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AgentSythe posted:This Painter vs Miracles game on the SCG stream is an absolute delight. That is the way Magic is meant to be played right there.
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AgentSythe posted:This Painter vs Miracles game on the SCG stream is an absolute delight. That was magical, I want more motley crew beat downs to occur. Cedric Phillips sounded like he was close to charging down the Miracles player from the desk.
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Attorney at Funk posted:That is the way Magic is meant to be played right there. Cedric Phillips makes this poo poo tolerable, god bless him. I miss his streaming.
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Sep 1, 2014 05:26
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Them mediocre beats, man. Nothing like it.
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mcmagic posted:This is the stupid deck I lost to in the first round of the Open yesterday. Apparently the kid finished 11th... If by "stupid" you mean "mega ownage," then agreed. Edit: I wanted the Imperial Recruiter chains to get there SO BAD. Kitchen had all the angles. Johnny Five-Jaces fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Sep 1, 2014 05:27
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AgentSythe posted:If by "stupid" you mean "mega ownage," then agreed. Meh. I was shocked to see he only had 2 Aqueous Form's. I thought he had about 12 in there.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:If you've been able to afford to play standard with Shocks, you'll be able to afford to play standard with Fetches. Hell, they may be more affordable than shocks while in print. Without typed duals around for them to fetch they are pretty subpar and without demand in standard decks you're going to see a lot of them get dumped onto the market unwanted. Plus, people are going to buy shitloads of boxes hoping to crack the things so the very merchants and speculators that want to profit off them may wind up putting a lot of downward pressure on the price themselves. Foils should be a guaranteed payday though - legacy-playable foils always fetch massive premiums (See: Conspiracy Brainstorms) so those will be worth a mint if you get lucky enough to crack one.
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Sep 1, 2014 05:34
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Them massive beats with two 1/1s.
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Zonekeeper posted:Hell, they may be more affordable than shocks while in print. Without typed duals around for them to fetch they are pretty subpar and without demand in standard decks you're going to see a lot of them get dumped onto the market unwanted. Plus, people are going to buy shitloads of boxes hoping to crack the things so the very merchants and speculators that want to profit off them may wind up putting a lot of downward pressure on the price themselves. If you think they aren't going to be in pretty much every standard deck you're nuts.
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Geez, Dan Musser was just absolutely unwilling to pull the trigger.
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mcmagic posted:He didn't resolve chord during our match. He just rolled me with dudes and I drew like poo poo... The other pod deck I lost to was a Kiki Pod player who seemed to have no idea what he was doing and of course I flood out 2 games in a row. I'm used to playing Twin so losing to pod decks is a new jarring experience.... I can't beat pod no matter what I do. I'm cursed.
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These guys look like they are falling asleep on the stream watching Miracles.Snacksmaniac posted:I can't beat pod no matter what I do. I'm cursed.
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mcmagic posted:These guys look like they are falling asleep on the stream watching Miracles. Can't blame them. Having played Miracles and watched several Miracles matches, this guy is absolutely glacial with his plays. Ramos fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Sep 1, 2014 05:58
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Snacksmaniac posted:I can't beat pod no matter what I do. I'm cursed.
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Ramos posted:Can't blame. Having played Miracles and watched several Miracles matches, this guy is absolutely glacial with his plays. On top of that, they've been working for like 17 hours straight.
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Attorney at Funk posted:On top of that, they've been working for like 17 hours straight. Yeah these guys do work hard and I doubt they get paid much. I was there at 9 the last two days and I was dead by like 4:30. Thinking is hard.
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mcmagic posted:If you think they aren't going to be in pretty much every standard deck you're nuts. Edit: Many fetches at all in Standard decks, I mean.
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Jonked posted:What makes them great in Modern might not be around in Standard. Right now, the only thing the fetches are grabbing are basic lands. Obviously, they're probably going to put in some sort of typed dual, but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see many fetches at all. Even if they just grab basics they are terrific and will be in pretty much every deck. And I'm sure there will be other targets.
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Jonked posted:What makes them great in Modern might not be around in Standard. Right now, the only thing the fetches are grabbing are basic lands. Obviously, they're probably going to put in some sort of typed dual, but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see many fetches at all. Fetches aren't particularly good without typed duals, but people will still play them because they need to play dual lands. I wasn't around for Zendikar standard so I can't comment on that, but in Onslaught standard, they only really took priority over pain lands when decks could take advantage of the graveyard through Grim Lavamancer or Psychatog or whatever. e: of course most decks just played both fetches and pains when they could, but decks like wake tended to play more pains/odyssey filters than fetches Big Ol Marsh Pussy fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Jonked posted:What makes them great in Modern might not be around in Standard. Right now, the only thing the fetches are grabbing are basic lands. Obviously, they're probably going to put in some sort of typed dual, but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see many fetches at all. Three words: courser of kruphix.
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redux posted:Three words: courser of kruphix. Also: This. There is a reason it's 16 bucks now.
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:Fetches aren't particularly good without typed duals, but people will still play them because they need to play dual lands. I wasn't around for Zendikar standard so I can't comment on that, but in Onslaught standard, they only really took priority over pain lands when decks could take advantage of the graveyard through Grim Lavamancer or Psychatog or whatever. All the 3 color decks (best decks) of both eras were supported by fetches. KTK is a wedge block. I cannot believe this is even up for debate.
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mcmagic posted:Also: This. There is a reason it's 16 bucks now. Goddammit. I checked them last night right when fetches were announced and they were only $10. Should've pulled the trigger.
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AnacondaHL posted:All the 3 color decks (best decks) of both eras were supported by fetches. The best deck in ONS era were not 3 colors.
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qbert posted:Goddammit. I checked them last night right when fetches were announced and they were only $10. Should've pulled the trigger. 16 is completely unsustainable, especially because they are in the Clash Pack product which you can get for 20 bucks on amazon...
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Elyv posted:The best deck in ONS era were not 3 colors. the best deck in OD/ONS was arguably wake which was three colors but it still didn't really play fetches. the 3-color aggro decks that sometimes saw play did though, but that was mostly because of lavamancer
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Elyv posted:The best deck in ONS era were not 3 colors. Mirari's Wake and Jund were busted decks.
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:the best deck in OD/ONS was arguably wake which was three colors but it still didn't really play fetches. the 3-color aggro decks that sometimes saw play did though, but that was mostly because of lavamancer We're getting off topic, but iirc Wake was only the best deck once seventh rotated out and eighth rotated in with corresponding loss of counterspell, force spike, and maybe opportunity(I can't remember if Opportunity saw any play); I thought before that it was Tog.
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Elyv posted:We're getting off topic, but iirc Wake was only the best deck once seventh rotated out and eighth rotated in with corresponding loss of counterspell, force spike, and maybe opportunity(I can't remember if Opportunity saw any play); I thought before that it was Tog. No, it was always the best, but people were much worse at the game and worse at deckbuilding. Like Legacy Miracles it took a swift practiced pilot to successfully play it at a tournament.
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Alright so fetches are... Deck thinning, easy shuffling when you have a way to look at the top cards of your deck, maybe ways to grab dual/tri lands (like murmuring bosk without the treefolk sub them?) if they come with Khans. They also enable landfall abilities like Courser of Cruphix, which conveniently enjoys all of the abilities fetches provide. Is the clash pack at this point cheaper than the parts you get from it?
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Elyv posted:We're getting off topic, but iirc Wake was only the best deck once seventh rotated out and eighth rotated in with corresponding loss of counterspell, force spike, and maybe opportunity(I can't remember if Opportunity saw any play); I thought before that it was Tog. It was wake or tog depending on who you ask, both were really good the unofficial best (and by best i mean coolest) deck was actually r/w slide with the 15 land destruction sideboard though
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