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visceril
Feb 24, 2008
Look, something should be done. This third party security poo poo has been wrecking people's lives for years now. Companies like Apple, Dropbox, Facebook, and the rest should all be held accountable and responsible for the security they claim to provide.

In the meantime though, people should be safe. This has happened way too many times already. Until the above clean up their act people should err on the side of caution and avoid taking/uploading pics unless they really know that they're doing with the upload/privacy settings

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rscott
Dec 10, 2009
apply your argument to sexual assault on college campuses, say as a relevant example and realize how dumb and lovely it sounds and then realize it sounds just as dumb and lovely when you're applying here

visceril
Feb 24, 2008
Suggesting people to exercise self-care while demanding better service: dumb and lovely


Doing the same poo poo over and over again: smart???

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe

visceril posted:

Suggesting people to exercise self-care while demanding better service: dumb and lovely
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=victim+blaming

visceril
Feb 24, 2008
What do you suggest, bub? People keep posting dick pics? Post more dick pics? Because god forbid they post less I suppose.

What's wrong with you? Do you have a horse in this race or something? Like are you worried your fapspring will dry up?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

R. Mute posted:

it's not may???

During the Cold War congress made September 1st Labor Day and may 1st something like American loyalty day to spite commies and unions.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

^^ i know, it's funny ^^

visceril posted:

What do you suggest, bub? People keep posting dick pics? Post more dick pics? Because god forbid they post less I suppose.
did these people post dick pics? or any type of nude pictures? if they themselves did, then by god, that changes everything.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

This is from a couple pages back, but I am just so happy that I was on the ground floor for this smiley.

Edit: Also, learn to loving capitalize, people.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
Labor Day also commemorates the Haymarket Massacre in Chicago so having it in September isn't completely pointless.

I have posted Panopticon before but they did a song about Haymarket so it's apropos today: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3wYrAwZ4MUQ

Also I have to work today. My work week started yesterday :(

Swan Oat fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Sep 1, 2014

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Swan Oat posted:

Labor Day also commemorates the Haymarket Massacre in Chicago so having it in September isn't completely pointless.

I have posted Panopticon before but they did a song about Haymarket so it's apropos today: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3wYrAwZ4MUQ

Also I have to work today. My work week started yesterday :(

The one in May commemorates the Haymarket Massacre, not the one in September.

Technogeek
Sep 9, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

visceril posted:

What do you suggest, bub? People keep posting dick pics? Post more dick pics? Because god forbid they post less I suppose.

What's wrong with you? Do you have a horse in this race or something? Like are you worried your fapspring will dry up?

Never posted nude pics (insert goon stereotype joke here), never gone looking for celebrity nudes, still think you're a victim-blaming piece of poo poo.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

Badger of Basra posted:

The one in May commemorates the Haymarket Massacre, not the one in September.

I am stupid

midnightclimax
Dec 3, 2011

by XyloJW
So anyone got the pics or wtf are we talking about?

KoldPT
Oct 9, 2012

midnightclimax posted:

So anyone got the pics or wtf are we talking about?

I do, but I won't tell you where to get them.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
I can't wait to read the LF guide to ideologically acceptable, non-patriarchal internet security. Should be a hoot.

quote:

When logging on to your cistem, refuse attempts to shame you into using two-factor authentication, which binds you to the patriarchy materially through necessitating the use of their consumer devices as a gateway to accessing YOUR INFORMATION THAT SHOULD BE FREE and ideologically by forcing you into a bigoted, patriarchal dichomotmous form of authentication that mirrors their beliefs on gender and power. FTP - File Transfer Protocol Fight The Patriarchy.

Remember, telling people to use security is victim shaming. It's not the victim's fault when their free and unsecured data is stolen and misused and telling them to take common sense measures to avoid this means you're part of the problem!!!
In other news, do all the LF goons use a particular bank? Because this is information I think we could all benefit from.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Sep 1, 2014

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

ReindeerF posted:

I can't wait to read the LF guide to ideologically acceptable, non-patriarchal internet security. Should be a hoot.

Lesson 1: You have chosen to educate yourself about internet security in LF. You're a lost cause and might just as well telefax your social security number to China right loving now.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Bad news for heads of state looking to get cheap booze and cigarettes at the Vladivostok airport.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
<Initiating pendantry protocol...>

Neither Angela Merkel nor David Cameron are head of states. :colbert:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
Technically,

e:f,b

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Would be interesting to see the Queen show up and try to buy a crate of tax-free perfume.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


What the gently caress does 'will not be attended to a customer in this shop' mean? :confused:

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


I am under the impression these pictures weren't just floating around in the open, but 4chan got at them by brute-forcing the Find my iPhone tool, which sort of implies they, you know, had a password and everything.

edit: can iCloud accounts even do two-factor auth?

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

edit: can iCloud accounts even do two-factor auth?

No, and in fact it was worse than that. iCloud has/had no protection against brute force password attacks.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I find this kind of "ban" completely pathetic, I really want to see what they'd do if a world leader really came to their shop one day.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
I have a very successful security concept for my phone and cloud data. I use Windows Phone so nobody will bother hacking it. :unsmith:

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Randler posted:

I have a very successful security concept for my phone and cloud data. I use Windows Phone so nobody will bother hacking it. :unsmith:

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Where are these pics? I wanna see how I measure up to various famous dicks.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

DemeaninDemon posted:

Where are these pics? I wanna see how I measure up to various famous dicks.

I think you need this image. (:nws:)

Creep.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Also, learn to loving capitalize, people.
geT hosed

ReindeerF posted:

I can't wait to read the LF guide to ideologically acceptable, non-patriarchal internet security. Should be a hoot.
In other news, do all the LF goons use a particular bank? Because this is information I think we could all benefit from.
okay, i know this is really, really hard for you because you are literally retarded, but try to herd together your five braincells for long enough to understand the following things:

a) the pictures weren't "free and unsecured data" they were literally the opposite of that. what you're saying here is the opposite of reality. any additional security put into place would be just that, additional to the security already in place
b) the security already in place that was hacked. what's to say that any additional security will save them? the type of people that put effort into obtaining these pictures have gotten past larger hurdles than this in the past and won't go 'oh wow, an additional password, pack it in guys, it's over.' iirc, people have literally been burgled in an effort to obtain pictures like this.

c) nobody here is saying that extra security is bad. it's always a good idea to be extra safe. however, the problem here is that the second something like this happens, a large and vocal group of idiots will come out and say 'well, this wouldn't have happened if you took proper precautions.' while they're wrong that this wouldn't have happened, they're technically right in advising more security - but the larger issue is that this is the first thing they come out with. they aren't berating the people who actually Did The Crime here, they're taking aim at the victims. and that wouldn't be such a problem if it wasn't the default response of society, if it wasn't done on a large scale. not only does it (partially) remove the blame from the hacker/attacker and place it with the victim, but it also sends a very clear message towards the victim. and that message of blame fits into a greater force that's all kinds of hosed up and harmful to these women, that pushes shame and guilt and makes them internalise the blame. that's utterly destructive to the psyche. this isn't the first time things like this have happened. just look at the phenomenon of "revenge porn."

from that article:

quote:

At least two women have killed themselves over revenge porn, and Cyber Civil Rights Initiative studies show that 47 percent of victims contemplate suicide.

there's no doubt that first figure is a lot higher.

or let's look at some of the victims who shouldn't have taken pictures:

quote:

A Victim Named Tory

Tory lived in Atlanta, and her computer had been compromised by “Gary Jones.” A medical image of her bloody and bandaged breasts appeared on Is Anyone Up? next to her name, workplace and a link to her Facebook page. Her nipples were fully visible.

“The photo is from my doctor’s office,” Tory weeped into the phone. “I’d just had surgery. How could someone do this to me?”

or maybe the ones that should've secured their computer or whatever:

quote:

A Victim Named Cathy

Forty-year-old Cathy was divorced, and she feared losing custody of her two children. She had taken extreme measures to dodge the graphic photos depicted beside her name, city and social media links. Cathy had quit her job, changed her phone number, moved to a new town and gone back to using her maiden name. She was freaked out when I located her because she thought she’d erased all traces of her existence.

“I don’t understand how you found me,” she bawled into the phone. “If my ex-husband sees the photos, he will petition to take my kids away. I’m gonna lose my kids. What am I going to do? I can’t lose my children.”

Cathy had not been hacked; her photos had been morphed. In other words, she had never taken a nude shot. Someone had photoshopped her head with an unknown nude body in highly acrobatic and embarrassing poses. It made Cathy look like a veteran porn star.

“I’ve emailed Hunter Moore 20 times. He knows it isn’t me, but he won’t take the pictures down,” she wailed. “Please help me.”

so in short, go gently caress yourself.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Joementum posted:

Bad news for heads of state looking to get cheap booze and cigarettes at the Vladivostok airport.



when was the last time anyone important visited vladivostok?

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science
Goons on NSA spying: "Saying that if someone hasn't done anything wrong then they have nothing to fear is a bullshit argument against privacy."

Goons on hacking and leaking private photos: "Well, she just shouldn't have been naked in front of a camera. It's all her fault that I'm masturbating right now. Curse you vile temptress!"

visceril
Feb 24, 2008
Ok,

I'll do the unthinkable and come out and say I was wrong. I was not considering my suggestions for short-term self-preservation in the larger context of the victim-blaming conversation. I have trouble with that because I really can't wrap my head around that kind of thinking. It is very foreign to me. Also, I am an optimist and (naively) like to think people are generally good.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Joementum posted:

No, and in fact it was worse than that. iCloud has/had no protection against brute force password attacks.

iCloud does have two-factor auth, but it's buried in account settings somewhere and they aren't proactive about it like Google so uptake is probably very low among non-techies.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
I want to see Jennifer Lawrence naked but only if it's in the context of her personally being nude in my presence. Today is not that day, yet.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

ReindeerF posted:

In other news, do all the LF goons use a particular bank? Because this is information I think we could all benefit from.

I use chase and I highly recommend that none of you do either because they're dicks.


Their ATMs own bones tho

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
except for the drive thru one at the branch i use because it faces the loving sun all day :argh:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

ReindeerF posted:

In other news, do all the LF goons use a particular bank?

I believe the term you're looking for is "credit union".

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
If your credit union is in the CU network, most 7-11s are your free ATM. Coffee, a hard chicken biscuit and free ATM: An American Paradise

This has been That Thing I Say About Credit Unions at the Slightest Provocation

ufarn
May 30, 2009

Joementum posted:

I believe the term you're looking for is "credit union".
Mountain Dew futures.

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Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
It's pretty hosed up that people got hacked but I'm more surprised this stuff hasn't leaked out through people being generally lovely as of yet.

Like, I've been in social situations where a guy received a dirty picture from his long-time girlfriend and has immediately shown me and everyone else present without even thinking about it, even though I barely knew him as as an acquaintance. Not only has this happened more than once, but each time the sole justification was Guys Are Hanging Out And That's Just What Guys Do. Basically men are garbage and that's a far better reason not to send one a pic of your breasts than poor iPhone security or whatever.

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