Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
On the subject of C:TGW, do the neutrals join in on a fixed timeline, or can your actions affect it?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Dirt Worshipper
Apr 2, 2007

Paralithodes Californiensis
Neutrals seem less willing to join a losing side. There are also some triggered events like the Arab revolt (which I've never managed to fire).

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Darkrenown posted:

On the subject of C:TGW, do the neutrals join in on a fixed timeline, or can your actions affect it?

I heard use of gas and submarine warfare accelerated the entry of neutrals of the opposing side.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
In my winning CP game I got my subs killed interdicting troops in the Channel or some dumb crap like that since I didn't take Antwerp until 1917 and thus didn't have the range to push them out into the Atlantic, so because of my utter ineptitude (and unwillingness to replace my lost subs - MUST BUILD MORE INFANTRY) the USA actually didn't join the Allies at all. I don't know if there's a way to prevent Italy or Romania joining the Allies, though Romania is in such a lovely position that them joining the Allies is arguably a benefit for the Central Powers and Italy isn't much better.

Chump Farts
May 9, 2009

There is no Coordinator but Narduzzi, and Shilique is his Prophet.

Pornographic Memory posted:

In my winning CP game I got my subs killed interdicting troops in the Channel or some dumb crap like that since I didn't take Antwerp until 1917 and thus didn't have the range to push them out into the Atlantic, so because of my utter ineptitude (and unwillingness to replace my lost subs - MUST BUILD MORE INFANTRY) the USA actually didn't join the Allies at all. I don't know if there's a way to prevent Italy or Romania joining the Allies, though Romania is in such a lovely position that them joining the Allies is arguably a benefit for the Central Powers and Italy isn't much better.

If you REALLY beat the poo poo out of their alliance, the timer will turn red and hold until things change. They can change quickly though. I had a game where I knocked out France and was trying to destroy Britain's fleet and lost one of my capital ship fleets. Italy went from being too scared to join to immediately jumping in once I took the hit to my morale.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



I would really love C:TGW (more than I already do) if the diplomacy system was just a tiny bit more fleshed out. More ways to affect when allies join in, more ways to potentially pull in ahistorical neutrals, etc.

Chump Farts
May 9, 2009

There is no Coordinator but Narduzzi, and Shilique is his Prophet.

Drone posted:

I would really love C:TGW (more than I already do) if the diplomacy system was just a tiny bit more fleshed out. More ways to affect when allies join in, more ways to potentially pull in ahistorical neutrals, etc.

I think stratcom has options like this?

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Drone posted:

I would really love C:TGW (more than I already do) if the diplomacy system was just a tiny bit more fleshed out. More ways to affect when allies join in, more ways to potentially pull in ahistorical neutrals, etc.

This would make a good expansion. Throw in some other scenarios and they could take even more of my money!

GenericRX
Jun 29, 2013
I remember there was a Vietnam wargame where you controlled the entire war. Could someone post a link or am I making poo poo up?

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

Chump Farts posted:

I think stratcom has options like this?

Yes, Strategic Command the Great War got a pretty nice diplomatic system that allows for some "what ifs". You pay industrial points to place "diplomatic chits" (and each country got a set max to place) which grants +5% chance to influence that country each turn. Influence a country enough and they prepare for war and joins your alliance. Not sure if you can influence countries like Italy/The US to join the central powers though, but I think you might delay their entry.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Pimpmust posted:

Yes, Strategic Command the Great War got a pretty nice diplomatic system that allows for some "what ifs". You pay industrial points to place "diplomatic chits" (and each country got a set max to place) which grants +5% chance to influence that country each turn. Influence a country enough and they prepare for war and joins your alliance. Not sure if you can influence countries like Italy/The US to join the central powers though, but I think you might delay their entry.

You really can't, the cost would be exorbitantly high and you still wouldn't have enough of those chits to bring them close to you. The same goes for early war Ottomans, you can't bring them to Allied side. Diplomacy together with events for both sides can accelerate/decelerate the rate at which they will mobilize for war, though.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Tried to play To End All Wars.

Oh god that interface. It's somehow gotten worse.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

GenericRX posted:

I remember there was a Vietnam wargame where you controlled the entire war. Could someone post a link or am I making poo poo up?

Only in the board game world.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

Panzeh posted:

Only in the board game world.

http://www.myabandonware.com/game/conflict-in-vietnam-7r :colbert:

Chump Farts
May 9, 2009

There is no Coordinator but Narduzzi, and Shilique is his Prophet.
Pride of Nations is the weekly sale :effort:

Myoclonic Jerk
Nov 10, 2008

Cool it a minute, babe, let me finish playing with my fake gun.

Saros posted:

In the kindest way possible... UOC's AI is not one that you lose to, more like "win in a less totally overwhelming way." Largely because your troops/air force rolled badly.

[e] UoC's AI has never come close to 'winning' a game, even when I was learning the system. Its partially due to the scenario style of the game and partially just the AI not understanding how to play the system (or perform more than the flimsiest encirclements.)

. . . I totally have lost a couple scenarios. It was back when I was still learning the game, but still. :negative:

That said, it totally can screw up your chances at a decisive or brilliant victory if you let it. One of the things reviewers have been consistent about is the surprising toughness of the AI and it's ability to engage in opportunistic spoiling attacks.

That's all I wanted, pictures or stories of the AI pulling off a big breakthrough.

Tomislav also revealed a bit about the future of the series on Rock Paper Shotgun. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/08/29/the-flare-path-fruit-of-the-thorn/

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Myoclonic Jerk posted:

Tomislav also revealed a bit about the future of the series on Rock Paper Shotgun. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/08/29/the-flare-path-fruit-of-the-thorn/

I a with Tim Stone; I too like busts.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Alchenar posted:

Tried to play To End All Wars.

Oh god that interface. It's somehow gotten worse.

If people had to suffer through that to conquer their neighbours, it really would end all wars.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
I am not sure what to think of this.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
It's kinda hilarious how people want to make 1upt games at that scale and then get into Panzer(Panver IVD)s like it even matters. You can do 1upt games at that scale but you need to do armies and fronts/army groups not individual tank types.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The loving detail on that SS insignia is really something else, too.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


The counters are really lovely looking though. Extremely nice and shiny.

blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!
Is that ... a regimental scale 1upt East Front game? There is so much wrong with that on its own. Having different tank variants at that scale and signs of SS fanboyism are just the icing on the awful, horrible cake.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

blackmongoose posted:

Is that ... a regimental scale 1upt East Front game? There is so much wrong with that on its own. Having different tank variants at that scale and signs of SS fanboyism are just the icing on the awful, horrible cake.

Not just any game. That's a Civilization 5 mod there. God knows why you'd want to run your wargame in Civ.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009

~ Notice me, Shempai! ~
The whole world covered in black SS chits. A single tear of happiness rolls down a Neo-Nazi's cheek.

ForeverBWFC
Oct 19, 2011

Oh, the lads! You should've seen 'em running!
Ask 'em why and they reply the Bolton Boys are coming! All the lads and lasses, smiles upon their faces,

WALKING DOWN THE MANNY ROAD, TO SEE THE BURNDEN ACES!

pixelbaron posted:

The whole world covered in black SS chits. A single tear of happiness rolls down gets tattooed onto a Neo-Nazi's cheek.

Also, does anyone know when the next Ultimate General: Gettysburg update should be?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
A King Tiger tank in June 1941? What is this amateur hour?

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009

~ Notice me, Shempai! ~
Is Ultimate General: Gettysburg any good/getting good? I keep looking at it and thinking about getting it but then I read peoples thoughts on it and they are usually disappointed in some way.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009

~ Notice me, Shempai! ~
Is Sid Meier ever going to revisit the American Civil War?? Come back Sid Meier...

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


Me-262s and King Tigers in the 22 June 1941 turn. It really is a Nazi apologist's wet dream.

The Mountain infantry counter is division sized, but those heavy tanks and assault guns are just battalions.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

A King Tiger tank in June 1941? What is this amateur hour?

Well, you gotta be able to keep up with your Me-262 production, after all. Can't let Goering have all the cool toys...

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


pixelbaron posted:

Is Ultimate General: Gettysburg any good/getting good? I keep looking at it and thinking about getting it but then I read peoples thoughts on it and they are usually disappointed in some way.

It's phenomenal for the price. It's a fantastic game made even better with the heightmaps and is very enjoyable. Great (enemy) AI, superb campaigns and beautiful aesthetic. Can be frustrating at times though due to how line of sight works.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

It's phenomenal for the price. It's a fantastic game made even better with the heightmaps and is very enjoyable. Great (enemy) AI, superb campaigns and beautiful aesthetic. Can be frustrating at times though due to how line of sight works.

This. Long story short: it's an early access game that's worth the money *now*. Those are few and far between.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands
Finally got around to sitting down for a full game of Commander: The Great War. I've managed to force Germany and Austria to surrender by mid-1916, and all that's left is to clean up the Ottoman Empire. It sure is a nice feeling when you manage to crack enough weak spots in a front to break through and cause the entire front to collapse, going from occasional -1/-2 attacks to out-and-out encirclements.

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever actually declared war on a neutral country before? It seems like a pretty pointless option given that you're likely to spend far more resources fighting the neutral than you'll ever get in return, and given how declaring war on neutrals is a good way to bring in others against you.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Anyone have opinions on:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/275290/?snr=1_614_615_WeeklongDeals_gridsale
Graviteam Tactics: Operation Star?

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
I have it, it sucks. Though I never really figured it out.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
I paid $1 for it and wasn't thrilled.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

pixelbaron posted:

Is Ultimate General: Gettysburg any good/getting good? I keep looking at it and thinking about getting it but then I read peoples thoughts on it and they are usually disappointed in some way.

I haven't heard anyone say they didn't like Ultimate General Gettysburg. It's a fantastic game that's a quarter of the price of less-playable grognard junk.


It's trying to be Combat Mission with persistent units and a strategic layer that matters, but the camera is too far out and the map is too empty for the translation to really be good. I ended up attack-move-ing most of the time because everyone's reduced to an ant-sized icon anyway.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Every time I see the name "Graviteam Tactics" I mistakenly get my hopes up that it's a sci-fi grog game.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

I have an opinion on your boss stealing their awesome Achtung Panzer name thus depriving the game of the acronym APOPSTAR :argh:

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply