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Aristotle Animes posted:And you didn't ask? Guhh? Oh well, good luck! What do you do if someone at work sends you a friend request? They're gonna ask about it if you ignore it, and it seems worse to just say you don't want to...
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QuasiQuack posted:What do you do if someone at work sends you a friend request? They're gonna ask about it if you ignore it, and it seems worse to just say you don't want to... "Sorry, I don't add coworkers as friends." Worked for me. Usually the response is "oh yeah I totally understand." If they persist, tell them you've had problems in the past and it's nothing personal. Ottoman fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Sep 2, 2014 10:45
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At my second last job I added precious few people on Facebook, and only one person from my department. At my last job I knew some people before we worked together, and some other coworkers added me. I had no qualms with adding them as I am very good friends with the office manager/bosses daughter and she knows the sort of poo poo I get up to online. In an ideal world I wouldn't have had any colleagues on Facebook though. I'm starting a new job next week and I don't plan on accepting any friends requests from coworkers. Its a grown up job and I don't take Facebook/social media in any way seriously and I don't really want to have to explain that to anyone. If someone wants to connect with me online they can add me on LinkedIn.
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Sep 2, 2014 13:41
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One coworker of mine once went out on Bereavement because her Grandmother died, and the next day posted pictures of herself at a Jamacian beach on Facebook. Probably not a good idea to add your coworkers to Facebook if you're planning on committing fraud.
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Sep 2, 2014 13:44
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Kind of reminds me of this (sorry for the Daily Mail link). Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Sep 2, 2014 13:58
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I guess it depends on the job. I work with a bunch of other young people (professional, serious job) and don't see anything wrong with being friends with them, in real life or on Facebook. Obviously I'd draw the line at my boss.
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Sep 2, 2014 14:09
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At my wife's last job, the managers pressured employees to friend them on facebook so they could know when they are on the site at work.
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Sep 2, 2014 14:15
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Xandu posted:I guess it depends on the job. I work with a bunch of other young people (professional, serious job) and don't see anything wrong with being friends with them, in real life or on Facebook. Oh absolutely. My last job I had every single person in that place added, and we'd all go out and get drunk at least once a week. At this place though, I have two people from different departments, and even that I feel might be too much. The only reason I haven't removed them is because I don't put anything on Facebook that I'm not willing to let the whole world see, so I have nothing to hide. e: Solkanar512 posted:At my wife's last job, the managers pressured employees to friend them on facebook so they could know when they are on the site at work. NOPE NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE
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Sep 2, 2014 14:21
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Renegret posted:
Yeah, it was a loving blast having to watch what I said on her posts because her boss might be looking. She's no longer there of course.
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Sep 2, 2014 14:32
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Solkanar512 posted:Yeah, it was a loving blast having to watch what I said on her posts because her boss might be looking. She's no longer there of course. "Nope sorry don't have Facebook" *sets profile to invisible* Not in a million years would I add my boss to Facebook so he could stalk me 24 hours a day.
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Sep 2, 2014 14:34
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Solkanar512 posted:At my wife's last job, the managers pressured employees to friend them on facebook so they could know when they are on the site at work. Wouldn't that require the boss be on Facebook at work to catch them? Or did he go home every night and check time stamps on posts? Either way that's a bit extreme.
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Sep 2, 2014 14:37
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If I recall correctly, there was also a recent movement by some employers to ask their employees to give them their social media passwords. I remember the senator of my state, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) going apeshit because obviously that's a massive invasion of privacy. Not sure if it's been outlawed yet.
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Sep 2, 2014 15:15
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Some new guy just started last week and he sits in the cubicle next to mine. Nice guy, but he likes to randomly come up behind me and see what I'm working on. Like wtf.
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Sep 2, 2014 16:09
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Xandu posted:Some new guy just started last week and he sits in the cubicle next to mine. Nice guy, but he likes to randomly come up behind me and see what I'm working on. Indulge him and give him a smooch? He probably just wants work friends, it will work itself out eventually. Tell him you're busy in the meanwhile.
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Sep 2, 2014 16:18
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Xandu posted:Some new guy just started last week and he sits in the cubicle next to mine. Nice guy, but he likes to randomly come up behind me and see what I'm working on. Is he blatantly looking at your screen? I bet he's scoping the situation and trying to see if it's acceptable to surf the web or be on FB
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Sep 2, 2014 16:54
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Radio Talmudist posted:If I recall correctly, there was also a recent movement by some employers to ask their employees to give them their social media passwords. I remember the senator of my state, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) going apeshit because obviously that's a massive invasion of privacy. Not sure if it's been outlawed yet. That's pretty much America in a nutshell. I'm so glad I live in a country where asking that question is grounds of a lawsuit. I'm friends with three people at work all of whom I will hang out with outside of work. Basically only friend people you really like.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:13
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Radio Talmudist posted:If I recall correctly, there was also a recent movement by some employers to ask their employees to give them their social media passwords. I remember the senator of my state, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) going apeshit because obviously that's a massive invasion of privacy. Not sure if it's been outlawed yet. It may have been made illegal in some states (no idea), but it is still legal on a federal level and with our general record, I'd expect it to stay that way for a long time.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:16
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Aquatic Giraffe posted:Wouldn't that require the boss be on Facebook at work to catch them? Or did he go home every night and check time stamps on posts? Either way that's a bit extreme. The former. This is also a place where they were getting ready to be sold but their German parent company, so they had to tighten up finances. While it was no surprise when the free soda went away, they apparently outsourced the clocks on the wall. Those too went away and were never replaced.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:23
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Radio Talmudist posted:If I recall correctly, there was also a recent movement by some employers to ask their employees to give them their social media passwords. I remember the senator of my state, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) going apeshit because obviously that's a massive invasion of privacy. Not sure if it's been outlawed yet. What was keeping people from just saying no? I mean, other than lowering the chances on a job with a lovely employer like that.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:40
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If there's no law protecting the employee, I guess most feel they have no choice but to give their passwords, or risk being fired. Even if there are laws, filing a law suit is always a risky and time-consuming affair.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:43
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It'd be easier to just delete your facebook account at that point. Or give it to them and change your password two weeks later and feign ignorance.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:45
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Should I give them the password to my bank account too? jfc A naive coworker outed my twitter account in front of management. I was horrified. Had to lock that poo poo down just in case someone got a sudden attack of Knowing How To Use Twitter
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Sep 2, 2014 18:03
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All of my bosses forgot that at least one of them was supposed to go to an event this morning. So they emailed me at midnight last night, and again at 7:30 this morning to ask me if I could be there. Good timing dudes 
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Sep 2, 2014 19:30
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Keetron posted:What was keeping people from just saying no? I mean, other than lowering the chances on a job with a lovely employer like that. Basically the fact that the jobs are probably conditional on it and early-career job opportunities are few and far between these days?
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Sep 2, 2014 19:35
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Keetron posted:What was keeping people from just saying no? I mean, other than lowering the chances on a job with a lovely employer like that. It's called "having to pay the bills".
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Sep 2, 2014 20:13
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Unfortunately employers are at a crazy advantage these days and can get away with a lot. I read yesterday that more and more bosses are commit wage-theft - i.e. just outright refusing to pay employers for OT hours worked and other stuff.
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Sep 2, 2014 20:35
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rolleyes posted:Kind of reminds me of this (sorry for the Daily Mail link). This is also why I don't post much about work on Facebook except for real generic stuff. In fact this is why I don't post much on Facebook at ALL, especially if it's something that matters. I don't even list my place of employment on there. People are goddamn stupid and there's enough drama in this world already. Edit: Jesus, sorry to keep bitching about random stuff at my new job but today I got the information on my new insurance ... and contraceptives are not covered. What the gently caress century is this?! Ottoman fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Sep 2, 2014 21:20
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Ottoman posted:Edit: Jesus, sorry to keep bitching about random stuff at my new job but today I got the information on my new insurance ... and contraceptives are not covered. What the gently caress century is this?! I've been trying to figure this out, too. Aren't those supposed to be covered at zero cost under the ACA now? My employer isn't covering my wife's birth control either.
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Radio Talmudist posted:If I recall correctly, there was also a recent movement by some employers to ask their employees to give them their social media passwords. I remember the senator of my state, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) going apeshit because obviously that's a massive invasion of privacy. Not sure if it's been outlawed yet. I have a "work" account that is easy to find and has the post benign of posts on it - I think my last post there was either me saying I accepted a position or cheering for the yankees (WHICH I REFUSE TO DENY) I would be VERY reluctant to give up my personal account, since that contains information about sexual orientation, religion and disability status. So seems pretty suspect to me.
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Sundae posted:I've been trying to figure this out, too. Aren't those supposed to be covered at zero cost under the ACA now? My employer isn't covering my wife's birth control either. Google gave me this link (it's a PDF). Apparently there are still plans that are grandfathered at least for the moment. Considering I work for a government I don't know what the hold up is on compliance with ACA. Oh wait, all governments take for loving ever to get anything done. I hear our benefits are changing Jan 1 (IIRC it'll be more expensive for less coverage, yay) so maybe that will force them per this link to become "un-grandfathered."
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Sep 3, 2014 00:18
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Renegret posted:It'd be easier to just delete your facebook
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Sep 3, 2014 00:19
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You control your Facebook though. I work in a small industry so I just assume everyone can see it. I untag myself from pictures if I don't like them (but then I mostly don't get my pictures taken) and I try not to have stupid friends. FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 00:33
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I don't have where I work on my profile. All I post on Facebook is mostly dumb pictures of my dogs, I mostly use it as a modern version of AIM to talk to friends who are scattered around the country. I have a super boring linkedin account, they can look at that all they want.
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FrozenVent posted:Back on topic, anyone know a good reference or guide for writing SMART employee performance objectives? Eh, writing the goals themselves is really not hard. One goal might be something like: Decrease the average number of defects per KLOC written by the employee, as measured from January 1 to (some date that you expect to get around to writing up annual reviews). 5: 3 or fewer defects per KLOC 4: 4 to 10 defects per KLOC 3: 11 to 20 defects per KLOC 2: 21 to 40 defects per KLOC 1: More than 40 defects per KLOC Basically, the idea is to give people clear, specific direction about what they are responsible for and what they can expect for a rating at specific performance metrics. The hard part is coming up with goals that are meaningful, objectively measurable, and not too easy to game. For example, you could give somebody a goal that says that says they must send a minimum number of e-mails to coworkers every week. Is that objectively measurable? Sure. Is it meaningful? Probably not. It's also easy for somebody to just sit there pumping out e-mails to everybody, so it's pretty gamable, too.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:23
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Kreeblah posted:Eh, writing the goals themselves is really not hard. One goal might be something like: You should always be careful with defect metrics - it's much easier to decrease bug count by gaming the system than by actually improving quality.
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:You should always be careful with defect metrics - it's much easier to decrease bug count by gaming the system than by actually improving quality. For those of us in the audience who equate decreasing bugs to improving quality, would you expand on this a little?
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ItalicSquirrels posted:For those of us in the audience who equate decreasing bugs to improving quality, would you expand on this a little? I imagine that during the baseline period, the defect count would be high, and then go down in step with the desired metric.
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SubjectVerbObject posted:I imagine that during the baseline period, the defect count would be high, and then go down in step with the desired metric. Not to mention everyone will cherry pick the quick and easy ones while ignoring the hard and more time consuming ones. Even if those time consuming ones are really critical. I don't work in software development, but some supervisors here started running ticket metrics here and they ended up having to stop for that exact reason. Everyone was fighting over the really easy work to inflate their numbers while avoiding the difficult but more important work. The person sitting next to me who did one super critical ticket in 5 hours technically did more work than me who did 30 easy tickets that took 2 minutes a piece, but we have no way of representing that.
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Ah, thank you. That makes more sense to me now.
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Again, I don't work with software, but I'm just imagining the kinds of things that could be done. ...and the kinds of things I've done with tickets myself 
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