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Nihnoz
Aug 24, 2009

ararararararararararara

EA Sports posted:

if you read that it basically says use whatever means u can to push your political agenda (which is most imporant) thats not normal at all.
like all these manic pixie dream girls involved with this unironically meticulously loving dudes in gaming so they can tell gamers that sexy game characters is wrong. its incredible.

loving people for press is not only normal, I'd call it wise.

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Biggie Shorty
Oct 8, 2008

EA Sports posted:

uhh.. are we still talking about this? lol if you think this is a conspiracy u autist weridos just lol

Nice try...OBAMA!

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!

Mikeo posted:

http://pastebin.com/rFX1pTfX


So FYAD is behind all of this!

Hahahaha

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
spoiler: the reason these people are a big fucky sucky circlejerk is that they're crazy weirdos seeking solace from the hell that is their own heads, much like the kind of people who believe in conspiracy theories to destroy true gamers/journalism/the american male

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
Alright, it is time for an expose on the different connections between various groups in this GamerGate scandal.

The majority of this SJW stuff, at its core, is coming from what is known as "Weird Twitter." (inb4 >KYM http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/weird-twitter) Weird Twitter was initially formed when users of the FYAD subforum on the Something Awful forums decided that the forums were slowly dying (which is true) and took to Twitter to increase their internet presence and be able to interact with more people (largely to harass them). They had created such a hostile environment to newcomers in FYAD that essentially no new blood trickled in, and they literally had to force new people to post there through moderator bullshit, and even then the sole purpose of that was not to get new blood, but for the insular clique who have known each other for more than a decade now, to torment that person. So they needed greener pastures, which they found on Twitter, where they were joined by refugees from Laissez Faire, a FYAD-style subforum which at the end of its lifespan was filled with anime avatar hardline Marxists (think /pol/ but even more extreme, but on the left, and extremely ban-happy. It ultimately fell apart and was resurrected as various offsite forums time and again because they kept falling apart due to drama and users harassing each other).

Anyway this insular group of a few dozen or so people quickly attracted a large following on Twitter by making genuinely amusing Tweets (which had mostly nothing to do with SJW poo poo), and among that following were many indie creators and related SJW types, mostly because those Tweets had SJW-friendly language (the most glaring examples of this language are infantile-sounding insults like "garbagemen" or "piss baby").

However, besides making amusing Tweets, they had another purpose: Harassing people for their own amusement. The former LF parts of Weird Twitter and their largely SJW indie dev follower (and similar people, you get the picture) crowd merely provided SJW issues as a heuristic to find targets to single out and harass. If this in-group had accumulated a following among a different demographic (which is however a rather unlikely scenario, given the initial LF element among them) they would have looked for people to harass based on whatever that demographic valued, rather than SJW issues. It's important to understand that the SJW issues they supposedly care about are merely meant to raise a Twitter mob outside of their small circle. On FYAD itself, they have no issues with throwing around racist and sexist slurs like they're going out of style. They just know how to keep that poo poo off Twitter, since the average FYAD post would give a true SJW a heart attack.

And make no mistake, these people have absolutely no issues with harassment up to and including death threats either. FYAD even managed to make a depressed, possibly autistic man kill himself due to their harassment, a fact that if brought up rather than denying, they will gloat and laugh about. Many of these people were active in Helldump, another Something Awful subforum which existed for the sole purpose of doxxing SA users and digging up as much embarrassing information on them as possible, which went as far as users posting nude pictures of an underaged girl, as well as making fun of users with physical disabilities.

One of the superstars of that subforum was also involved with the attempt at bullying a 10 year-old (who they also doxxed and threatened with death). I say attempt because the 10 year-old shrugged it off like a champ. The guy, btw, should be somewhere in his mid-to-late 30s. This whole episode is well-known, and 4chan has torn the parties involved a new one over it.

Zoe Quinn, by her own admission in mid-August (I believe she tweeted it on August 12th or 15th, it should still be there if she hasn't deleted it), is still an active SA forums user and has been since 2002. It is safe to assume that she is part of this in-group which is at the center of this Twitter shitstorm.

How do I know all this? Simple, I used to be part of it. I wasn't part of the FYAD in-group but one of the people who joined later on Twitter (although I had been posting and lurking on the SA forums for years beforehand, I simply didn't interact with FYAD). The 10 year-old harassment episode opened my eyes, and I used what I know to put 2 and 2 together, and here you are reading the results.

So what does this have to do with the larger SJW community?

Simple: This isn't about gamers, gaming or feminism. The SJW poo poo is simply a smoke-screen which an insular group of people who have known each other for over a decade use to get their truly massive amount of SJW Twitter followers who are not part of that in-group, to join in on harassment, which they get off on. I almost feel bad for legit SJWs who participate in this, they are merely useful idiots. If you are an SJW reading this: You have been tricked, rused, bamboozled. The same people who point you to targets which to attack are the very bullies you proclaim to loathe.

Anyway, how does this tie into games journalism?

When this whole thing broke loose, it got huge overnight, despite constant censorship attempts and fraudulent DMCA takedowns across the internet. Gaming journalists, both directly involved with Zoe and indirectly involved by participating in similarly seedy actions which clearly breach the ethics of journalism needed a way to make this go away or bury the larger issue, and fast. All most of them could do on their end was write articles, but that wouldn't have gotten the needed reaction fast enough.

Luckily, they had connections among this in-group (such as Zoe Quinn possibly being a part of it, as well as other indie devs and related people who follow people from the in-group and are followed back by them) which had, by now, years of experience in raising Twitter lynch mobs and who had the required number of followers among the SJW crowd. Thus, they mobilized them to turn what is a journalistic issue at heart into an SJW issue. And this they gladly did, because it meant getting to harass people.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
I honestly hope they pick this bullshit up and run with it if only for the possibility of ty peppar and AFF being mentioned in a news article

big duck equals goose
Nov 7, 2006

by XyloJW

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Alright, it is time for an expose on the different connections between various groups in this GamerGate scandal.

The majority of this SJW stuff, at its core, is coming from what is known as "Weird Twitter." (inb4 >KYM http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/weird-twitter) Weird Twitter was initially formed when users of the FYAD subforum on the Something Awful forums decided that the forums were slowly dying (which is true) and took to Twitter to increase their internet presence and be able to interact with more people (largely to harass them). They had created such a hostile environment to newcomers in FYAD that essentially no new blood trickled in, and they literally had to force new people to post there through moderator bullshit, and even then the sole purpose of that was not to get new blood, but for the insular clique who have known each other for more than a decade now, to torment that person. So they needed greener pastures, which they found on Twitter, where they were joined by refugees from Laissez Faire, a FYAD-style subforum which at the end of its lifespan was filled with anime avatar hardline Marxists (think /pol/ but even more extreme, but on the left, and extremely ban-happy. It ultimately fell apart and was resurrected as various offsite forums time and again because they kept falling apart due to drama and users harassing each other).

Anyway this insular group of a few dozen or so people quickly attracted a large following on Twitter by making genuinely amusing Tweets (which had mostly nothing to do with SJW poo poo), and among that following were many indie creators and related SJW types, mostly because those Tweets had SJW-friendly language (the most glaring examples of this language are infantile-sounding insults like "garbagemen" or "piss baby").

However, besides making amusing Tweets, they had another purpose: Harassing people for their own amusement. The former LF parts of Weird Twitter and their largely SJW indie dev follower (and similar people, you get the picture) crowd merely provided SJW issues as a heuristic to find targets to single out and harass. If this in-group had accumulated a following among a different demographic (which is however a rather unlikely scenario, given the initial LF element among them) they would have looked for people to harass based on whatever that demographic valued, rather than SJW issues. It's important to understand that the SJW issues they supposedly care about are merely meant to raise a Twitter mob outside of their small circle. On FYAD itself, they have no issues with throwing around racist and sexist slurs like they're going out of style. They just know how to keep that poo poo off Twitter, since the average FYAD post would give a true SJW a heart attack.

And make no mistake, these people have absolutely no issues with harassment up to and including death threats either. FYAD even managed to make a depressed, possibly autistic man kill himself due to their harassment, a fact that if brought up rather than denying, they will gloat and laugh about. Many of these people were active in Helldump, another Something Awful subforum which existed for the sole purpose of doxxing SA users and digging up as much embarrassing information on them as possible, which went as far as users posting nude pictures of an underaged girl, as well as making fun of users with physical disabilities.

One of the superstars of that subforum was also involved with the attempt at bullying a 10 year-old (who they also doxxed and threatened with death). I say attempt because the 10 year-old shrugged it off like a champ. The guy, btw, should be somewhere in his mid-to-late 30s. This whole episode is well-known, and 4chan has torn the parties involved a new one over it.

Zoe Quinn, by her own admission in mid-August (I believe she tweeted it on August 12th or 15th, it should still be there if she hasn't deleted it), is still an active SA forums user and has been since 2002. It is safe to assume that she is part of this in-group which is at the center of this Twitter shitstorm.

How do I know all this? Simple, I used to be part of it. I wasn't part of the FYAD in-group but one of the people who joined later on Twitter (although I had been posting and lurking on the SA forums for years beforehand, I simply didn't interact with FYAD). The 10 year-old harassment episode opened my eyes, and I used what I know to put 2 and 2 together, and here you are reading the results.

So what does this have to do with the larger SJW community?

Simple: This isn't about gamers, gaming or feminism. The SJW poo poo is simply a smoke-screen which an insular group of people who have known each other for over a decade use to get their truly massive amount of SJW Twitter followers who are not part of that in-group, to join in on harassment, which they get off on. I almost feel bad for legit SJWs who participate in this, they are merely useful idiots. If you are an SJW reading this: You have been tricked, rused, bamboozled. The same people who point you to targets which to attack are the very bullies you proclaim to loathe.

Anyway, how does this tie into games journalism?

When this whole thing broke loose, it got huge overnight, despite constant censorship attempts and fraudulent DMCA takedowns across the internet. Gaming journalists, both directly involved with Zoe and indirectly involved by participating in similarly seedy actions which clearly breach the ethics of journalism needed a way to make this go away or bury the larger issue, and fast. All most of them could do on their end was write articles, but that wouldn't have gotten the needed reaction fast enough.

Luckily, they had connections among this in-group (such as Zoe Quinn possibly being a part of it, as well as other indie devs and related people who follow people from the in-group and are followed back by them) which had, by now, years of experience in raising Twitter lynch mobs and who had the required number of followers among the SJW crowd. Thus, they mobilized them to turn what is a journalistic issue at heart into an SJW issue. And this they gladly did, because it meant getting to harass people.






loving a... It goes all the way to the yad'....

Shadoer
Aug 31, 2011


Zoe Quinn is one of many women targeted by the Gamergate harassment campaign.

Support a feminist today!


Lumpy the Cook posted:

Alright, it is time for an expose on the different connections between various groups in this GamerGate scandal.

The majority of this SJW stuff, at its core, is coming from what is known as "Weird Twitter." (inb4 >KYM http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/weird-twitter) Weird Twitter was initially formed when users of the FYAD subforum on the Something Awful forums decided that the forums were slowly dying (which is true) and took to Twitter to increase their internet presence and be able to interact with more people (largely to harass them). They had created such a hostile environment to newcomers in FYAD that essentially no new blood trickled in, and they literally had to force new people to post there through moderator bullshit, and even then the sole purpose of that was not to get new blood, but for the insular clique who have known each other for more than a decade now, to torment that person. So they needed greener pastures, which they found on Twitter, where they were joined by refugees from Laissez Faire, a FYAD-style subforum which at the end of its lifespan was filled with anime avatar hardline Marxists (think /pol/ but even more extreme, but on the left, and extremely ban-happy. It ultimately fell apart and was resurrected as various offsite forums time and again because they kept falling apart due to drama and users harassing each other).

Anyway this insular group of a few dozen or so people quickly attracted a large following on Twitter by making genuinely amusing Tweets (which had mostly nothing to do with SJW poo poo), and among that following were many indie creators and related SJW types, mostly because those Tweets had SJW-friendly language (the most glaring examples of this language are infantile-sounding insults like "garbagemen" or "piss baby").

However, besides making amusing Tweets, they had another purpose: Harassing people for their own amusement. The former LF parts of Weird Twitter and their largely SJW indie dev follower (and similar people, you get the picture) crowd merely provided SJW issues as a heuristic to find targets to single out and harass. If this in-group had accumulated a following among a different demographic (which is however a rather unlikely scenario, given the initial LF element among them) they would have looked for people to harass based on whatever that demographic valued, rather than SJW issues. It's important to understand that the SJW issues they supposedly care about are merely meant to raise a Twitter mob outside of their small circle. On FYAD itself, they have no issues with throwing around racist and sexist slurs like they're going out of style. They just know how to keep that poo poo off Twitter, since the average FYAD post would give a true SJW a heart attack.

And make no mistake, these people have absolutely no issues with harassment up to and including death threats either. FYAD even managed to make a depressed, possibly autistic man kill himself due to their harassment, a fact that if brought up rather than denying, they will gloat and laugh about. Many of these people were active in Helldump, another Something Awful subforum which existed for the sole purpose of doxxing SA users and digging up as much embarrassing information on them as possible, which went as far as users posting nude pictures of an underaged girl, as well as making fun of users with physical disabilities.

One of the superstars of that subforum was also involved with the attempt at bullying a 10 year-old (who they also doxxed and threatened with death). I say attempt because the 10 year-old shrugged it off like a champ. The guy, btw, should be somewhere in his mid-to-late 30s. This whole episode is well-known, and 4chan has torn the parties involved a new one over it.

Zoe Quinn, by her own admission in mid-August (I believe she tweeted it on August 12th or 15th, it should still be there if she hasn't deleted it), is still an active SA forums user and has been since 2002. It is safe to assume that she is part of this in-group which is at the center of this Twitter shitstorm.

How do I know all this? Simple, I used to be part of it. I wasn't part of the FYAD in-group but one of the people who joined later on Twitter (although I had been posting and lurking on the SA forums for years beforehand, I simply didn't interact with FYAD). The 10 year-old harassment episode opened my eyes, and I used what I know to put 2 and 2 together, and here you are reading the results.

So what does this have to do with the larger SJW community?

Simple: This isn't about gamers, gaming or feminism. The SJW poo poo is simply a smoke-screen which an insular group of people who have known each other for over a decade use to get their truly massive amount of SJW Twitter followers who are not part of that in-group, to join in on harassment, which they get off on. I almost feel bad for legit SJWs who participate in this, they are merely useful idiots. If you are an SJW reading this: You have been tricked, rused, bamboozled. The same people who point you to targets which to attack are the very bullies you proclaim to loathe.

Anyway, how does this tie into games journalism?

When this whole thing broke loose, it got huge overnight, despite constant censorship attempts and fraudulent DMCA takedowns across the internet. Gaming journalists, both directly involved with Zoe and indirectly involved by participating in similarly seedy actions which clearly breach the ethics of journalism needed a way to make this go away or bury the larger issue, and fast. All most of them could do on their end was write articles, but that wouldn't have gotten the needed reaction fast enough.

Luckily, they had connections among this in-group (such as Zoe Quinn possibly being a part of it, as well as other indie devs and related people who follow people from the in-group and are followed back by them) which had, by now, years of experience in raising Twitter lynch mobs and who had the required number of followers among the SJW crowd. Thus, they mobilized them to turn what is a journalistic issue at heart into an SJW issue. And this they gladly did, because it meant getting to harass people.

Wait... so it's not even a joke, these assholes really were born on SA?!

Denim Dude
Feb 21, 2006

i didn't buy shit. i don't know what the fuck is going on.

Light Gun Man posted:

How do people keep finding new ways to misinterpret "butthurt"?

i was always under the impression that butthurt came from the phrase "really chaps my rear end". but instead of saying you have a chapped rear end someone is just accusing you of having a chapped rear end, hence butthurt. turns out i've been mega homophobic for a long rear end time. woops :/

big duck equals goose
Nov 7, 2006

by XyloJW
Explain your self FYAD!!!

literally a hog
Jan 5, 2006

Mandarrrrrk! Bring me the head of Dexter and Dee Dee shall forever be yours!







Rad Tad
Jul 2, 2014

drat, aren't cha'll tired yet? :smith:

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

IT ALL MAKES SENSE :byodame:

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

Denim Dude posted:

i was always under the impression that butthurt came from the phrase "really chaps my rear end". but instead of saying you have a chapped rear end someone is just accusing you of having a chapped rear end, hence butthurt. turns out i've been mega homophobic for a long rear end time. woops :/

Yeah, exactly. Or like "you got spanked" or "you are mad, because you have an existing butt problem" or like a million other possibilities long before "anal rape haha".

Shadoer
Aug 31, 2011


Zoe Quinn is one of many women targeted by the Gamergate harassment campaign.

Support a feminist today!


You know, I know this conspiracy exists in some form.

However I have to admit, out of all the things to make an elaborate conspiracy out of, making one to rid the western world of misogyny is pretty sad. It's like these guys played way too much Deus Ex, then decided the Illuminati was a good thing so long as they were the Illuminati.

Skunny Wundy
Jul 9, 2012

Video games are pretty fun.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
Have u ever seen zoe quinn and synthy post in the same room

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

THE PENETRATOR posted:

Have u ever seen zoe quinn and synthy post in the same room

itd have to be a pretty big room to fit zoe qwuinn + 1 other persobn

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

Shadoer posted:

Wait... so it's not even a joke, these assholes really were born on SA?!

You can trace most of the really nutty Internet People out there back to this website.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
Hmmm so apparently FYAD is the Little Finger in this Storm of Shitlords. We should have known.

FrostedButts
Dec 30, 2011

Skunny Wundy posted:

Video games are pretty fun.

Hey, guys! Let's talk about video games! You like video games?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iN-2q2qCzs

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax

Oberleutnant posted:

itd have to be a pretty big room to fit zoe qwuinn + 1 other persobn

Eye pop out emote dot gif

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib
Something Awful is the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
Honestly most video games are really bad and I have little interest in playing 99% of what comes out. I just think these people are really lovely and I'd like to see them come down a peg or two.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

EA Sports posted:

if you read that it basically says use whatever means u can to push your political agenda (which is most imporant) thats not normal at all.
like all these manic pixie dream girls involved with this unironically meticulously loving dudes in gaming so they can tell gamers that sexy game characters is wrong. its incredible.

The gently caress are these

Orzo
Sep 3, 2004

IT! IT is confusing! Say your goddamn pronouns!

TheKingofSprings posted:

The gently caress are these
whats google

Nihnoz
Aug 24, 2009

ararararararararararara

Sephiroth_IRA posted:

Honestly most video games are really bad and I have little interest in playing 99% of what comes out. I just think these people are really lovely and I'd like to see them come down a peg or two.

I think people who play video games in 2014 are retards. but even worse are the people who write about video games in 2014.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~

Sephiroth_IRA posted:

most video games are really bad

Skunny Wundy
Jul 9, 2012

FrostedButts posted:

Hey, guys! Let's talk about video games! You like video games?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iN-2q2qCzs

please post a trigger warning next time, thank you

Liquid Penguins
Feb 18, 2006

by Cowcaster
Grimey Drawer
rumor on the street is that zoe cucked every single person who attended pax can anyone confirm? Patrick Klepek was apparently at the door turning away anyone who brought a condom.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
Manic Pixie Dream Girl probably originated somewhere besides TV Tropes I'm not going to look into it since that's where most people learn these things. Most of Anita's research also comes from TV Tropes.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

TheKingofSprings posted:

The gently caress are these

Manic Pixie Dream Girls are generally girls with very low self esteem and will do anything for attention. You should avoid them. They are similar to twee hipster girls with thigh gap, except crazy as gently caress and are never the same person 2 days in a row. They also will shame you for having any opinion that isnt theirs.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Shadoer posted:

You know, I know this conspiracy exists in some form.

However I have to admit, out of all the things to make an elaborate conspiracy out of, making one to rid the western world of misogyny is pretty sad. It's like these guys played way too much Deus Ex, then decided the Illuminati was a good thing so long as they were the Illuminati.

W. S.
This scandal -- the controversy is intensifying to the point
where we may not be able to contain it.

B. P.
Why contain it? Let the tweets spill onto the net, let the doxxes
pile up on reddit. In the end, they'll beg us to check their privilege.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

Liquid Penguins posted:

rumor on the street is that zoe cucked every single person who attended pax can anyone confirm? Patrick Klepek was apparently at the door turning away anyone who brought a condom.

She cucked about 17, cuz thats all that showed up to her lovely panel when the room was booked for 900seats.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
I only read, like, 0,000(...)001% of books that are written every year. I think we can just burn all other books and their authors, because they write poo poo.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax

Brannock posted:

W. S.
This scandal -- the controversy is intensifying to the point
where we may not be able to contain it.

B. P.
Why contain it? Let the tweets spill onto the net, let the doxxes
pile up on reddit. In the end, they'll beg us to check their privilege.

Agreed

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

TheKingofSprings posted:

The gently caress are these

Educate yourself, shitlord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVAqzCb8ILY

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

idgi am I supposed to be mad about this?

Disclosure: I am a huge Obsidian fanboy and if we played the Kevin Bacon game I'd have like two degrees of separation from them because of a really crazy coincidence.

Sawyer is cool and is fairly moderate, but still, he went full retard with that whole "I yell at employees who disagree with me" thing, and he also likes Leigh "Kill all gamers" Alexander which is dumb because she's a lame unfunny weirdo.

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Liquid Penguins
Feb 18, 2006

by Cowcaster
Grimey Drawer

Musket posted:

She cucked about 17, cuz thats all that showed up to her lovely panel when the room was booked for 900seats.

Was the panel on how to make $3000 a month playing the victim on twitter? I don't think she knows how to do anything else.

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