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mcmagic posted:Don't people get that any card that makes multiple flying creatures is very good by now? You're misunderstanding. This is probably the best card they've shown. Its just not a very "mythic" card. Mythics aren't supposed to be just better than Rares - they're supposed to have splashy, flavorful effects.
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Angry Grimace posted:That's like the least "mythic" Mythic I've seen. 
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Sep 3, 2014 05:27
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Count Bleck posted:Hour of Need is looking mighty spicy post rotation.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:29
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"Put CARD from your hand onto the battlefield" is an inherently splashy effect though.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:30
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Angry Grimace posted:You're misunderstanding. This is probably the best card they've shown. Its just not a very "mythic" card. Mythics aren't supposed to be just better than Rares - they're supposed to have splashy, flavorful effects. Ehh. It's just mythic because it's too powerful in limited.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:31
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More mythic than flame-wreathed phoenix. Just pretend it has the dragon subtype. Doesn't die to Elspeth either!
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Sep 3, 2014 05:33
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I'm quite excited for that card, it'll be a house for as long as it's in standard.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:35
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I feel like there should be a reprint of Relentless Assault as a Mardu card just for flavor reasons alone.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:36
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Giant rocs are loving cool you shut your mouth   The picture should have some scale elephants
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Sep 3, 2014 05:36
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This must be a really wonky set for limited and its cards like that Roc at mythic that have me really curious as to what they have planned. If this set was designed largely around the 'turn' of drafting the small set with both large sets, there are probably some balance issues and they are certainly showing.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:43
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I think it follows the Brimaz path of Mythics where it Does Too Many Things. Brimaz made a 1/1 when blocking, made a 1/1 when attacking, was a 3/4 for 4 mana, and everything involved with him had vigilance. He was also a cat, which made him part of a (poorly supported) tribe. This bird is a 5 mana 3/4 in the air, which is borderline uncommon then it gives you another bird, then it gives you 1 life per attacking creature, in a deck/on a plan that wants you to attack with creatures every turn to get cool Raid effects. Since it isn't a legendary, you could also totally just play two of these in a row and demand your opponent have the wrath. The life gain lets you be more aggressive, the birds give you a real clock and unless Temur or Jeskai have serious Air power this thing is a monster.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:49
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Obviously the plan is to turn him into a dragon in Louie. Also, I hope they do the AVR thing and have the louie basics be Khans basics with dragons drawn on them.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:52
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I almost wonder if B/W Tokens could be a thing in this block. If Brave the Elements were still around, white value creatures with Brimaz and this guy would be tough to pass up running.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:57
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Two 3/4s for 5 in monocolor with further upside is very, very pushed. Broodmate Dragon had 4/4s which does mean something, but I'd say that the 4th point of toughness matters more than the 4th point of power for removal purposes, and more importantly the Roc is a LOT easier to cast.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:57
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Anyone who's not watching the Vintage Super League just missed the most insane game I've ever seen. Rich Shay vs. Tom Martell. In related news, I finally finished my online Vintage deck here. It's just Caleb Durward's Survival of the Fittest deck. I tried 3 2-mans. All 3 were Gush-Storm. What fun. Then I played (very badly, I'm sure) 2 rounds against Rich. I lost 0/2 in the first round and 2/1 in the 2nd. It's a really fun deck, but it's really hard to play. Sometimes you get the busted turn 1 Lotus, Survival, discard Vine for Rootwalla, discard 2 Rootwallas in a row for 8 power on turn 1. Less fun is getting Mindslavered and having him Survival all of my Rootwallas away.
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Angry Grimace posted:I almost wonder if B/W Tokens could be a thing in this block. If Brave the Elements were still around, white value creatures with Brimaz and this guy would be tough to pass up running. May as well make it Mardu tokens, Purphoros is extremely good in any token deck for late game reach.
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Sep 3, 2014 08:31
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Zorak posted:Giant rocs are loving cool you shut your mouth It's not the roc's fault the picture makes him look tiny, they should have had him carrying one of those elephants in his talons or something.
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Sep 3, 2014 08:40
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The Sultai is looking to me the most interesting of the khans, I am liking the interaction between courser of kruphix, sidisi, fetchlands, the new jace +1 and the delve mechanic to make a very synergistic deck able to sift through the deck really quickly and efficiently while providing card advantage. I really hope they make the Sultai Ascendancy around the exile/graveyard mechanic too, something like "Whenever a creature card gets exiled, target opponent loses one life" or something like that.
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Sep 3, 2014 09:42
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Will anyone trade me as much of this stuff as possible? Akroma, Angel of Fury Horizon Canopy (need 3) Noble Hierarch (need 3) Gaddock Teeg https://deckbox.org/sets/461038?s=j&o=d Big ticket items in there: 3x Grove of the Burnwillows Adun Oakenshield 2x Brimaz Dack Fayden various shocks (all the stuff is for sale too)
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Sep 3, 2014 10:58
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New spoiler! That U/R artifacts deck? That's totally happening. Hell, even Robots might have some use for something like that.
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Sep 3, 2014 11:00
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Niton posted:New spoiler! I play Affinity almost exclusively, and I just don't see that being as good as Cranial Plating. They both end up costing 1 to equip on a colorless creature, but Cranial can turn even Ornithopter into a huge threat. Affinity does not want a drawn out game, and playing this over Plating does that.
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Sep 3, 2014 11:12
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That card is obviously very strong, but the most interesting thing is that it references colourless creatures. I wonder if the second set will be colourless themed?
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newtestleper posted:That card is obviously very strong, but the most interesting thing is that it references colourless creatures. I wonder if the second set will be colourless themed? We know Ugin is involved in the story and that Ugin's thing is being colorless. It's a pretty safe bet that colorless will be a theme later in the block.
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newtestleper posted:That card is obviously very strong, but the most interesting thing is that it references colourless creatures. I wonder if the second set will be colourless themed? Morph creatures
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Sep 3, 2014 11:34
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At the moment, the point is using it with morph, since face-down creatures are colorless.
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Sep 3, 2014 11:34
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Lottery of Babylon posted:We know Ugin is involved in the story and that Ugin's thing is being colorless. It's a pretty safe bet that colorless will be a theme later in the block. Ghostflame itself is Ugin's thing. It might be neat if colourless was relevant and Ghostflame was made part of a cycle with colourless spells with costs in the other colours.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Ghostflame itself is Ugin's thing. That would be interesting, I'm just curious how it'd go off. One of the things that made people talk about Ghostflame back during its release in Time Spiral block was its ability to dodge pro-red (even if it didn't lead to its extensive play). I imagine the other ones would have some sort of effect on creatures as well, that would sort of key in on the protection-dodging aspect. Blue and black seem easy enough with bounce and straight-up creature kill, but I'm not sure what white/green would do, at least not anything that would lend itself to common rarity besides maybe damage to fliers/flier destruction for green.
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Sep 3, 2014 12:39
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pacify or o ring effect.
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Zorak posted:
This thing is sick and flavortown as hell.
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Sep 3, 2014 14:48
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Just bought four clash packs for the Coursers. Here's to hoping hes playable after rotation.
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It's kind of funny how Ghostfire Blade will make your morphs trigger Ferocious
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End of Life Guy posted:Just bought four clash packs for the Coursers. Here's to hoping hes playable after rotation. I'd be stunned if he wasn't.
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End of Life Guy posted:Just bought four clash packs for the Coursers. Here's to hoping hes playable after rotation. If you mean when he falls out of Standard completely, he does see some play in Modern I think. If your talking about Theros/Khans Standard, he'll definitely see play because Fetches are a thing.
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Zorak posted:It's kind of funny how Ghostfire Blade will make your morphs trigger Ferocious I have no doubt this was on purpose
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Cernunnos posted:If you mean when he falls out of Standard completely, he does see some play in Modern I think. Even if fetches weren't a thing, he would see SOME play. He's a grindy little card advantage engine that blocks 3 power threats and gains life.
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End of Life Guy posted:Just bought four clash packs for the Coursers. Here's to hoping hes playable after rotation. Trade me the pretty foils.
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End of Life Guy posted:Just bought four clash packs for the Coursers. Here's to hoping hes playable after rotation. I also did this. I wanted the foils too, but suddenly coursers spiking made it worth it
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Niton posted:New spoiler! To think Vulshok Morningstar was a common (yeah this is better when built around and maybe in general, but still).
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Rinkles posted:To think Vulshok Morningstar was a common (yeah this is better when built around and maybe in general, but still). Vulshok Morningstar is insane in limited.
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Bonesplitter was also common. This was a terrible decision and Wizards has learnt from it. I have fond (by which I mean embarrassing) memories of being beaten down by Dryad Militants with a Civic Saber on them in RTR cube. Bonesplitter is Bonesplitter, no matter the supporting cast.
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