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Angry Grimace posted:Basically, Sarkhan Vol is the T-800 and Ugin is John Connor. So when do we get the reveal that The Lithomancer was actually a time-traveling Jace?
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Sep 3, 2014 23:46
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At least let it be Koth, c'mon.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:50
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The Lithomancer was Stoneforge Mystic, who was hiding out on a creature card Blind Seer-style.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:53
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qbert posted:So when do we get the reveal that The Lithomancer was actually a time-traveling Jace? I thought the Lithomancer was the Lady Kor Planeswalker that bound Ob-Nixilis?
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Sep 3, 2014 23:56
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 hi anyone read Italian? I think when you flip her she counters and then steals an instant spell?
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Sep 3, 2014 23:58
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Zorak posted:
Yeah it looks like it counters a spell and then exiles it and then you can cast it out of exile (for as long as it remains in exile, obviously, since what do you think this is, a red card?)
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Sep 4, 2014 00:01
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Zorak posted:
When Kheru Theftmage is turned face up, counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, exile it instead of putting it into its owner's graveyard. You may cast that card without paying its mana cost as long as it remains exiled. Deviant fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Sep 4, 2014 00:03
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"Rubare" is the Italian verb for theft, so the name is probably like "Kheru Spellstealer"
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Sep 4, 2014 00:04
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Sweet EDH card.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:06
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I like Kheru Theftmage.
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Zorak posted:
Morph flipping Spelljack? sick. EDIT: if you guys play in paper Massdrop has already got KoT boxes up for $99.99 If I played in paper i'd be jumping on this since other places have already got their prices at around 110$ https://www.massdrop.com/buy/khans-of-tarkir-booster-box Pyronic fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Sep 4, 2014 00:16
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Deviant posted:When Kheru Theftmage is turned face up, counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, exile it instead of putting it into its owner's graveyard. You may cast that card without paying its mana cost as long as it remains exiled. Four of in every blue deck I play with. There's nothing more fun than playing with other people's decks.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:18
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Count Bleck posted:Four of in every blue deck I play with. 9 mana is an awful lot to pay to steal a lightning strike.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:19
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It won't be anything in standard constructed, but it's neato. Having 6 open is pretty all in unless you have a prophet of kruphix or something.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:22
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mcmagic posted:9 mana is an awful lot to pay to steal a lightning strike. Is pessimism your defining personality trait or something? I don't think I've seen you happy about a card yet.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:25
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Ramos posted:Is pessimism your defining personality trait or something? I don't think I've seen you happy about a card yet. Untrue. That Roc is awesome. I also like the reveal a card morphs a whole lot.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:26
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someone on reddit got a Speed vs Cunning before street date: Not sure if this deck will play very well vs the other.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:28
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This card will be great in EDH\casual, it's a fun effect that I wouldn't want to see all over standard anyway.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:28
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mcmagic posted:Untrue. That Roc is awesome. I also like the reveal a card morphs a whole lot. Fair enough. Still, it's also been a while and we haven't seen the Temur khan yet. I wonder what's up with him. Wizards definitely prefers to lead out with the strongest stuff, so I wonder if it'll be another case like what we had with Pharika where they knew fans would be unhappy (regardless of how serviceable she actually is). Pyronic posted:someone on reddit got a Speed vs Cunning before street date: This radical new change Wizards has been going to with the whole no lands things is still just a bit odd in my opinion.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:30
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What happens to spell cards that are cast from exile? Do they go to the owner's graveyard?
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Sep 4, 2014 00:31
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GR Devotion with one or two Banefires?
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Sep 4, 2014 00:31
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BizarroAzrael posted:What happens to spell cards that are cast from exile? Do they go to the owner's graveyard? Yes!
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Sep 4, 2014 00:31
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If I attack with a Flinthoof Boar, could I use Druid's Repository to haste it using the same counter it just generated?
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Sep 4, 2014 00:32
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Umbra Dubium posted:If I attack with a Flinthoof Boar, could I use Druid's Repository to haste it using the same counter it just generated? You would be able to haste it. However, you wouldn't be able to attack and then haste it to enable it to attack if you just played it.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:33
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Umbra Dubium posted:If I attack with a Flinthoof Boar, could I use Druid's Repository to haste it using the same counter it just generated? You can, but gaining Haste midcombat doesn't alter anything.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:34
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I knew it was a stupid question, but not for the reason I thought. Ha.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:35
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Rinkles posted:Yes!
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Sep 4, 2014 00:36
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BizarroAzrael posted:What happens to spell cards that are cast from exile? Do they go to the owner's graveyard? When you cast an instant/sorcery card, it always goes to the owner's graveyard after resolving unless a card effect says otherwise. Usually when cast from the graveyard they get exiled, but that's only because most effects that let you cast from the yard also tell you to exile them afterwards, it isn't a real rule.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:37
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Correct me if I'm wrong: If the spell cast from exile is countered by rules i.e. no valid target it remains in exile. Why would it remain in exile?
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Sep 4, 2014 00:37
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mcmagic posted:9 mana is an awful lot to pay to steal a lightning strike. Even stealing something like a Lightning Strike doesn't seem all that bad considering that the "9 mana" is spent over multiple turns (which, along with gaining a morph, effectively discounts it), likely accounts for two cards on their end (Lightning Strike and whatever you kill with it), and leaves you with a 3/3 in play. It's not crazily pushed or anything, but the effect is powerful enough that the cost is fair even if your opponent is playing the most mundane spells and creatures imaginable.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:38
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Correct me if I'm wrong: If the spell cast from exile is countered by rules i.e. no valid target it remains in exile. When you cast it, it moves from exile to the stack. If it's countered on the stack, it goes to its owner's graveyard unless one of the card effects says otherwise.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:38
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qbert posted:Why would it remain in exile? Because going to the graveyard is part of resolution and it never resolved. I guess it would only remain in exile if it had some window to be cast, not just whenever. I thought that because if you stifle a creature's madness ability it is exiled.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:39
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Because going to the graveyard is part of resolution and it never resolved. So by that logic, if I cast Abrupt Decay on a creature that then gains hexproof, the Decay just gets to remain in my hand?
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Sep 4, 2014 00:40
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Because going to the graveyard is part of resolution and it never resolved. I guess it would only remain in exile if it had some window to be cast, not just whenever. I thought that because if you stifle a creature's madness ability it is exiled. The card goes from exile to the stack. once it's on the stack it behaves like anything else. A card is not in your hand while casting it, something cast from exile isn't there while casting it.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:42
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Because going to the graveyard is part of resolution and it never resolved. I guess it would only remain in exile if it had some window to be cast, not just whenever. I thought that because if you stifle a creature's madness ability it is exiled. Hang on, I thought the card was in the yard during resolution. Specifically, I thought if you fire a burn spell at a Tarmagoyf, that card was increasing Goyfs size at the point of resolving the damage.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:43
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qbert posted:So by that logic, if I cast Abrupt Decay on a creature that then gains hexproof, the Decay just gets to remain in my hand? Decay etc specify they can't be countered by spells and abilities, invalid targets still make it fizzle.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Hang on, I thought the card was in the yard during resolution. Specifically, I thought if you fire a burn spell at a Tarmagoyf, that card was increasing Goyfs size at the point of resolving the damage. Part of resolution is putting the spell into the yard. The reason a burn spell might not kill Tarmagoyf is that its toughness is calculated at the same time that it's checked for lethal damage.
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Yea, I got it now. Stupid loving judge exam twisting my mind with stifle+madness making me second guess casting from exile. The "correct me if i'm wrong" wasn't meant to be an ironic statement.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Hang on, I thought the card was in the yard during resolution. Specifically, I thought if you fire a burn spell at a Tarmagoyf, that card was increasing Goyfs size at the point of resolving the damage. Guns don't kill people. State-based actions kill people.
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State based isn't checked until a player would get priority. Nobody would get priority until the spell is completely resolved. So at no point does the game even try to see if creatures are marked with lethal damage until the spell is completely done.
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