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Elyv posted:Edit: ^^^ It only Threatens on your turn. Ah thats less good, but still easily first pickable. HMS Boromir posted:I refuse to let coral merfolk become anyone's generic name for what is clearly a goblin piker. Heh, I've always called them coral merfolk, I'm a blue mage at heart, so I had to look up goblin piker on gatherer to make sure it was a 2/1 for 1r. HMS Boromir posted:Also wow, conscripts was target permanent? Shows how much AVR I played. Avr had tons of powerful cards, Bonfire, Grizzlbees among them. To bad its limited environment was rear end. En Fuego posted:I don't think I'd really ever want to play this as a 2 mana 2/1 though. You'd be surprised, if you have a low power pool in sealed, or lovely picks in draft, oftentimes the best strategy is just to try and curve out with as many cheap threats as you can. In that scenario I can easily see dropping him as a 2/1 for 1R
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AlsoD posted:Using conscripts to steal a plainswalker and ult it, killing it, was the single most rewarding play I've ever done in cube. My favorite play with it was podding into Conscripts, stealing Gideon, punching my opponent in the face with it, then using a second birthing pod to go get a 6-drop in AVR standard.
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Madmarker posted:You'd be surprised, if you have a low power pool in sealed, or lovely picks in draft, oftentimes the best strategy is just to try and curve out with as many cheap threats as you can. In that scenario I can easily see dropping him as a 2/1 for 1R This has a lot of truth to it. 24 pikers and 16 mountains goes a lot farther than you'd expect at any casual tournament.
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Zealous Conscripts is one of the most underrated limited cards ever, especially in cube. I like the Morphin Time version too.
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Rogue 7 posted:My favorite play with it was podding into Conscripts, stealing Gideon, punching my opponent in the face with it, then using a second birthing pod to go get a 6-drop in AVR standard. Entropic fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Presented without commentquote:What does (insert $20 magic card name here) retail for?
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Literally The Worst posted:Presented without comment This is insanely wrong but I can find someone being wrong about something on the internet by waving a stick in front of me, why is this relevant
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Cernunnos posted:I thought the Lithomancer was the Lady Kor Planeswalker that bound Ob-Nixilis? I went over this. It's Moonsocks.
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Lord Of Texas posted:This is insanely wrong but I can find someone being wrong about something on the internet by waving a stick in front of me, why is this relevant Because it was so insanely wrong I felt it was worth sharing. He went on to ask me what other product has a 100% mark-up and I didn't have the heart to tell him "A whole lot of poo poo"
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Furniture has a ridiculously high markup. I'm talking 500%+
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Literally The Worst posted:Because it was so insanely wrong I felt it was worth sharing. I bet he'd love to know how much a data connection actually costs per month to an ISP (like nothing)
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Meanwhile, I'm having a hard time deciding which clan to play at the prerelease. Last time I went to one--Theros--I picked black and built UB. I then lost three matches in a row before switching to WGR and winning three in a row! Aheh. Hmmm. Maybe I'll go Mardu, 'cause I love the Mongols. Esser-Z fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Veyrall posted:Players must leave game in progress as it is and use the cards left in their libraries as decks with which to play a subgame of Magic. When subgame is over, players shuffle these cards, return them to libraries, and resume game in progress, with any loser of subgame halving his or her remaining life points, rounding down. Effects that prevent damage may not be used to counter this loss of life. The subgame has no ante; using less than forty cards may be necessary. Wasn't there a deck that's wincon was making your opponent not want to play anymore because it just durdles and makes subgames? Edit: Also what the gently caress why can we not have a good Clone anymore? Edit: WAIT THAT TARGETS PLANESWALKERS 
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That's a clone I can get behind.
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Count Bleck posted:Wasn't there a deck that's wincon was making your opponent not want to play anymore because it just durdles and makes subgames? Yes. Yes there was.
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These rares are cool, but I really want to see the meat and potatoes commons that draft is going to revolve around. e: I like that Crater's Claws can be just a shock if you have Ferocity active and X=0.
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Count Bleck posted:Wasn't there a deck that's wincon was making your opponent not want to play anymore because it just durdles and makes subgames? Yeah, cast Shaharazhad and Fork as many time as possible!
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Yaaaaay. Another badass clone for EDH. quote:Why is this a rare? I guess it would be too prolific for uncommon in limited? It would make a pretty good finisher for red decks.
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Oh drat, I wondered why a 2UU clone would be a mythic. That's pretty sweet.
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Game Day Participation Promo: Game Day Top-8 Promo:  Buy-A-Box Promo:  Launch Day Promo (can't remember if we got a good look at this or not):  e: That flavor text on the throne.
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Count Bleck posted:Wasn't there a deck that's wincon was making your opponent not want to play anymore because it just durdles and makes subgames? More to the point, even if the opponent was willing to play, there was an early deck that got to the point of decking people by bringing them down to sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-subgames. There was also, briefly, a deck that exploited a rules loophole where cards Suspended in a subgame would remain in the Removed From Game zone after the subgame ended, so Shahrazad was effectively WW: Put Greater Gargadon from your library onto the battlefield with haste. They closed that loophole with the Tenth Edition update, and then took a closer look at Shahrazad and decided it shouldn't be part of sanctioned tournaments. Shahrazad remains the only card to be banned in Vintage for logistical reasons, and (here's a good trivia question) the only depiction of cannabis use on a Magic card. quote:Edit: Also what the gently caress why can we not have a good Clone anymore? It's an awesome Clone, it'll definitely see play in whatever heavy-blue deck pops up.
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AlternateNu posted:Why is this a rare? I guess it would be too prolific for uncommon in limited? It would make a pretty good finisher for red decks. its a fireball, man.
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AlternateNu posted:Why is this a rare? I guess it would be too prolific for uncommon in limited? It would make a pretty good finisher for red decks. It's banefire (which was also rare) (because Temur is Naya).
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Imagine that clone with the old legend/planeswalker rule.
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The clone  I'm a little disappointed with Threat-o-morph, since the "your turn only" limitation seemed a little unnecessary. Still not awful, I guess. The intro pack rares are all fine playable cards, but probably none will be good enough for constructed just because they're so slow. Maybe Ankle Shanker because of haste and how insane that ability is. Crater's Claws is a fine spell. It's not going to move the earth or whatever but it's a solid playable in the right deck. That clone though, holy poo poo, that thing is the nuts. The possibilities for EDH are endless. Even in Standard, it stabilizes your board really well by copying their best threat. You can copy the Ascendancy enchantments if they start seeing play, you can copy Banishing Light or Chained to the Rocks, you can copy gods even if they're not turned on devotion-wise. Or you can just do what everyone is going to do and copy Elspeth for 4 mana. AlternateNu posted:Why is this a rare? I guess it would be too prolific for uncommon in limited? It would make a pretty good finisher for red decks. This at Uncommon would be warping to Limited. A deck with two of these can just stabilize to a decent board position with a single four-power dude, then cast them two successive turns in a row for 8 and 8 (or whatever). With an effect like this my guess is they tried it at limited and a bunch of games just ended with "Crater's Claws you. Crater's Claws you." Also, alongside that copying sorcery it's totally bizzonkers. DAD LOST MY IPOD fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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AlternateNu posted:Why is this a rare? I guess it would be too prolific for uncommon in limited? It would make a pretty good finisher for red decks. Probably because it can be a sorcery speed Shock or Lightning Strike if you have 4 power on board.
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Zorak posted:Probably because it can be a sorcery speed Shock or Lightning Strike if you have 4 power on board. There's the rub
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That new Clone can lead to some hilarious interactions in Standard: "EOT, tap my Prophet of Kruphix and Sylvan Caryatid along with five mana, Chord of Calling targeting Clever Impersonator. ETB, copy your Garruk, Apex Predator. Untap, upkeep, draw, +1 my Garruk, Apex Predator and target yours." *proceeds to make  gesture*
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So, I'm pretty sure we were looking at Prowess wrong. It's not "cast a bunch of spells". It's "get a lot of Prowess guys/enablers on the board, then cast the right spell or two to make them all mighty". I like it.
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Mortimer posted:There's the rub
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Esser-Z posted:So, I'm pretty sure we were looking at Prowess wrong. It's not "cast a bunch of spells". It's "get a lot of Prowess guys/enablers on the board, then cast the right spell or two to make them all mighty". Flying Crane Technique or whatever it's called is my favorite spoiled card so far. It's a stupid simple effect, but the flavour is so A+ I can't help but want to run it. Suddenly make all my kung fu monks leap into the air to do a synchronized flying kick to the face? Yes please.
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Yeah, UG is gonna be pretty good. Being able to flash in the Clone with Prophet or Chord is a big deal. Copy effects are strong. Instant speed copy effects are the nuts. Opponent pressuring you with Polukranos or Stormbreath Dragon? Grab your own during combat and trade. Opponent resolved a walker? Grab your own at EOT. If they have a Banishing Light, now you have an instant speed Banishing Light. Chord's a good card. Chord tutoring for any nonland permanent currently on the battlefield or any creature in your deck is a GREAT card.
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Entropic posted:Flying Crane Technique or whatever it's called is my favorite spoiled card so far. It's a stupid simple effect, but the flavour is so A+ I can't help but want to run it. Suddenly make all my kung fu monks leap into the air to do a synchronized flying kick to the face? Yes please. I'm thinking I might go Jeskai at the prerelease, now. Ofc, how many of the neat rares I actually would get to use is a question, but eh.
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