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My guess for how Cap is going to fix this (if he's the one to fix this) is going to be some sort of multiversal cooperation to take the themes from Infinity and go exponentially bigger. A million universes fail and die alone, but a million universes cooperating could probably fix pretty much anything. (infinity infinity gauntlets). It seems like only something along that sort of scale would be the only appropriate resolution to this. It'll be really dumb if someone just makes a magic reality fixing machine and poof, problem solved, but hopefully Hickman isn't that much of a cop-out.
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It's going to be like Doctor Who except it's 12 Caps from different timelines and universes simultaneously punching the multiverse.
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Sep 5, 2014 15:51
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Aphrodite posted:It's going to be like Doctor Who except it's 12 Caps from different timelines and universes simultaneously punching the multiverse.
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Sep 5, 2014 15:52
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It should end with a Cap / Sun God team up. The way things are headed, I think we're going to start seeing hints of the resolution soon. All these universes blowing Earths up are not the solution because they don't address the problem which is the early death of everything. I believe this only happens when Earths collide and both universes are destroyed. Destroying an Earth spares the universes so theoretically destroying ALL Earths should actually be a solution by removing the incursion point entirely. This of course is probably not a good way to go about it. So if removing variables from the equation isn't the way go to they need to add to the equation. I've said it before, but creating a universe should be a counter to an incursion. There's a space between universes where things can be (Hyperion survived 2 universes dying, the map makers work from this said). Hell, we've seen that when a universe is destroyed all it does is wipe the slate of everything and the "space" is still there. (Nazi Reed) Hickman has been playing the the themes of Life and Death but only giving us Death. My guess is we're going to be introduced to one of the final factions after this month and that how they deal with incursions is the "correct" or at least close enough to get the Illuminati to figure it out. At this point, even if they do end up meeting with the destroyer the incursion themselves are probably beyond him. If they're not and he's using them to feeds power up then there's no conceivable way you can beat something that has benefited from the deaths of countless universes. My last hope before it all ends is that we see some of the BIG players jump in and do anything. Order, Chaos, Eternity and the rest of the cosmic order have to be somewhat aware of this poo poo.
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Sep 5, 2014 16:08
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They should just let 616 die then have Franklin fix it.
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Sep 5, 2014 16:19
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Sep 5, 2014 16:21
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drat time traveling comic book writers keep stealing my ideas. Okay, we have Wonder Man sneak into Rabum Alal's fortress and break his vow of pacifism to shoot him with one of Fury's god killing bullets from Original Sin.
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Sep 5, 2014 16:24
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SirDan3k posted:Heroes Reborner Breaking and fixing a universe just so Clint can hear again, again, seems a little excessive.
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Sep 5, 2014 16:49
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Franklin hates deaf people.
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Sep 5, 2014 17:23
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:My last hope before it all ends is that we see some of the BIG players jump in and do anything. Order, Chaos, Eternity and the rest of the cosmic order have to be somewhat aware of this poo poo. Didn't Tony run into a dead celestial in like issue 8 or something? I think they are aware of it. As for using the Gauntlet for a better solution rather than stopping an incursion, just summoning the Gauntlet got the attention of the Watcher, Thanos, and Galactus. Using it in a more public, visible way probably would've gotten a lot more attention.
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Sep 5, 2014 19:34
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notthegoatseguy posted:Didn't Tony run into a dead celestial in like issue 8 or something? I think they are aware of it. It was the living tribunal wasn't it?
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Sep 5, 2014 19:41
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Flergatron 3000 posted:It was the living tribunal wasn't it? Not anymore. I keep waiting for a follow up to that.
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Sep 5, 2014 19:44
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^^ I would love someone to make a list of all the unresolved stuff in avengers & New Avengers so far. d00gZ posted:The thing is, it's Hickman, which means that he probably thought of the resolution first. I dunno, I can't get that worried considering how incredibly well Fantastic Four/FF and Secret Warriors hung together in the end. Iggles fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Sep 5, 2014 |
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Sep 5, 2014 20:54
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Iggles posted:^^ I am pretty sure that he did not write the end, it was "co-written" by Humphries
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Sep 5, 2014 21:28
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I think Hickman's contribution was scribbled on a napkin and signed - seeya in the real marvel universe poo poo lords.
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Sep 5, 2014 21:30
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The final panel of Avengers is a photo of Hickman pointing at you, the reader, shouting "NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!"
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Sep 5, 2014 21:34
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First Bass posted:The final panel of Avengers is a photo of Hickman pointing at you, the reader, shouting "NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!" Its the final page from Wanted.
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Sep 5, 2014 21:43
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Iggles posted:^^ I'll start:
Obviously this is nowhere near complete and some of these are jokes, but still.
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TwoPair posted:I mean, he's supposedly on the Avengers and he's appearing in Avengers World but he never seems to do anything. 
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TwoPair posted:I'll start: There's still two unresolved plots from the Origin Sites that Ex Nihlo made back at the beginning of Hickman's run:
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Sep 6, 2014 04:54
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Galactus stated in an issue of Hickman's FF that the Celestial Seed at the center of the Earth holds an aberration, a thing to fix something that isn't broken, that if hatched would be something akin to him with a hunger for consumption but immature and out of control. If all the alternate earths have this seed then could this event be set in motion to destroy such a thing and hence all earths or could it be energies consumed in the destruction of universes to feed it?
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Sep 6, 2014 05:47
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Gatts posted:Galactus stated in an issue of Hickman's FF that the Celestial Seed at the center of the Earth holds an aberration, a thing to fix something that isn't broken, that if hatched would be something akin to him with a hunger for consumption but immature and out of control. If all the alternate earths have this seed then could this event be set in motion to destroy such a thing and hence all earths or could it be energies consumed in the destruction of universes to feed it? IIRC he was talking about the Galactus Seed and the thing it would replace that wasn't broken was Galactus himself. It was a tie-in to Fractions godawful Thor run where Galactus and Odin got into a pissing match over it, though in that story it was supposed to birth the next universe when the current one dies.
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Sep 6, 2014 06:34
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That story said Galactus is not telling the truth about why he wants the seed.
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Sep 6, 2014 06:49
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Aphrodite posted:That story said Galactus is not telling the truth about why he wants the seed. Yeah but Odin was the one who said it would birth the next universe, IIRC.
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Horrible Taste posted:What happened to the robot from the Origin Site in Norway that AIM stuck between dead universes after it defeated the Avengers? This one was resolved! It joined the Map Makers.
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Sep 6, 2014 10:55
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Horrible Taste posted:Yeah but Odin was the one who said it would birth the next universe, IIRC. I wonder how that ties into Ragnorak. And also if that births the next universe and Earths are colliding and destroying universes...I wonder if that will be brought up.
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Genetic Toaster posted:This one was resolved! It joined the Map Makers. IIRC that was the Super-Adaptoids that joined the Map Makers, I don't think we've seen the robot from the Origin Site since AIM trapped it in Avengers #17.
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Horrible Taste posted:IIRC that was the Super-Adaptoids that joined the Map Makers, I don't think we've seen the robot from the Origin Site since AIM trapped it in Avengers #17.  My mistake.
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Aphrodite posted:It's going to be like Doctor Who except it's 12 Caps from different timelines and universes simultaneously punching the multiverse. No sir, all THIRTEEN. 
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Sep 7, 2014 05:23
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Well, I just learned the Avengers Undercover ends on the tenth.  You know, in case anyone cares. Maybe the teen heroes can be written by somebody who's not utterly Hopeless now?
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Sep 7, 2014 15:47
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No, they are going blame the characters not the writer for the book's failure and they will be shelved until they need somebody to go evil or die.
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To be fair most of the characters haven't sold well in years either. That reminds me that Arena happened and the X-23 scenes in Bendis' books are actually meant to be a reaction to that.
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Sep 7, 2014 20:44
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Of all the complaining people do about Avengers Arena, Cammi and X23 were pretty drat cool.
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Spiderdrake posted:To be fair most of the characters haven't sold well in years either. A reaction? I thought it was just Bendis Bendising as hard as Bendisly possible.
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Blockhouse posted:A reaction? I thought it was just Bendis Bendising as hard as Bendisly possible. I guess what I'm saying is when you contrast the two books Bendis feels as though he likes the characters he is working with. Hopeless felt as though he liked his X-Force team, but his junior Avengers poo poo feels like he hates them and it just comes off as so hollow, spiteful and dull. I imagine this is why I read Bendis' lackluster stuff and don't feel too bad about it, even when it dark beasts itself right up its own rear end.
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Laura should replace Wolverine on all the teams after he dies, act exactly like him and have no one say anything. If you can have a lady Thor, you can have a Lady Wolverine.
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twistedmentat posted:Laura should replace Wolverine on all the teams after he dies, act exactly like him and have no one say anything. If you can have a lady Thor, you can have a Lady Wolverine. I would read the gently caress out of Laura Kinney & The X-Men.
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Sep 8, 2014 03:48
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Every Hickman issue is a reminder of what could have been in the 30 issues of Secret Warriors that got cut.
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Hickman is the loving best. Please put him on Spider-man afterwards. Or whatever. I hope he does his own books.
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twistedmentat posted:Laura should replace Wolverine on all the teams after he dies, act exactly like him and have no one say anything. If you can have a lady Thor, you can have a Lady Wolverine. Nope sorry we're stuck with inverted Sabretooth instead
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