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Woffle posted:Good for Zoe. https://storify.com/strictmachine/gameovergate Nice to see the one targeted burn it all down.
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It was an inside job all along, you see the actual conspiracy behind the entire thing is
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Sep 6, 2014 19:22
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I look at this and see a bunch of bright distracting colors. What's a summary?
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Sep 6, 2014 19:28
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The whole thing was never about corruption in "games journalism" (scare quotes are necessary) and was always about harassing the poo poo out of women who nerds disagree with. It's a big shocker.
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Woffle posted:Good for Zoe. https://storify.com/strictmachine/gameovergate And I mean that, I am literally laughing out loud. Ulta posted:I look at this and see a bunch of bright distracting colors. What's a summary? sub supau fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Sep 6, 2014 |
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Sep 6, 2014 19:34
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That's a pretty huge shocker considering that they never really had any evidence of corruption except for "Video game journalists like socially conscious games more than 4chan posters do. Something must be up."
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Sep 6, 2014 19:35
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Dr. Stab posted:That's a pretty huge shocker considering that they never really had any evidence of corruption except for "Video game journalists like socially conscious games more than 4chan posters do. Something must be up." Chris Remo on Idle Thumbs a few weeks ago had a good thesis about the veracity of this being about "games journalism". Zoe Quinn dates an editor from Kotaku, the editor in question doesn't actually review her games, but she's dating him anyways so that she can get high review scores on her free-to-play game that had been out for 1+ year.
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Woffle posted:Good for Zoe. https://storify.com/strictmachine/gameovergate Reporting all the threats and other horrible garbage is great. It should be reported to the police and other authorities if applied. Hearts and minds don't change overnight neither do people but if you show people that making real life threats of violence or abuse has consequences then maybe they'll learn not to do it. Holding on to it to report to the authorities then ignoring that person is probably the best thing anyone can do in her situation. I do feel bad for people who are part of Gamergate that actually had legitimate grievances about the enthusiast press and the covering of games in the industry (which may have been in the minority). Unfortunately, in light of that post, it seems like everyone is just generalizing and dismissing the entire thing. JP LeBreton (aside from some sensational retweets and snobby outlooks he's generally pretty insightful, I recommend following him) tends to retweet a lot of dismissive and generalizing tweets of people who call all of those people as children or otherwise dumb labels like that. What I take away from that post is that the horrible element of the whole thing were just using legitimate reasons as a guise just to harass a group of people, which is disgusting. I'm glad that stuff came to light and those people will just disappear and maybe the people who actually have legitimate issues with things may have a chance to express them. Though, I have seen a few things that send mixed signals on that front. There was a youtube video that did make a compelling case about conflict of interests within the IGA but it undercut its point by showing irrelevant clips and points that came off as attacking someone due to their lifestyle.
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I don't think there's a better example of just how out of touch with reality some of those people are than the guy who posted that his side is "looking for full loving nuclear option. ending careers and marriages. Federal time for racketeering. Smeering their careers forever." Yeah that seems like a totally realistic and reasonable response to allegations that an indie developer slept with somebody who works for a video game bog. Yup, nothing completely ludicrous about that at all.
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Woffle posted:Good for Zoe. https://storify.com/strictmachine/gameovergate Congratulations ZC Quinnton on exposing the Barbaric 12 conspiracy!
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Jimbot posted:Reporting all the threats and other horrible garbage is great. It should be reported to the police and other authorities if applied. Hearts and minds don't change overnight neither do people but if you show people that making real life threats of violence or abuse has consequences then maybe they'll learn not to do it. Holding on to it to report to the authorities then ignoring that person is probably the best thing anyone can do in her situation. I do feel bad for people who are part of Gamergate that actually had legitimate grievances about the enthusiast press and the covering of games in the industry (which may have been in the minority). Unfortunately, in light of that post, it seems like everyone is just generalizing and dismissing the entire thing. JP LeBreton (aside from some sensational retweets and snobby outlooks he's generally pretty insightful, I recommend following him) tends to retweet a lot of dismissive and generalizing tweets of people who call all of those people as children or otherwise dumb labels like that. I haven't seen so many legitimate criticisms as people saying "but there are criticisms, and gosh darn it are they legitimate"
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Song For The Deaf posted:We're so worried about #GamerGate that we forgot about #LucaGate. Something must be done about #LucaBlight, and Watch Out for Fireballs! isn't afraid to tackle that issue in our Suikoden II episode. The brief mention of Nier at the end of this episode got me thinking that game'd probably make for a good WOFF. It's not a JRPG in the most traditional way, since it's got somewhat-mediocre Zelda-esque hack-and-slash combat instead of "mash A to random battle," but it's definitely a JRPG in terms of pacing and structure so it's not something I'd recommend while you're still burnt out. If you ever feel like extending your annual JRPG slot to lens flare territory, though, it'd be a real solid pick.
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Nier is a recco that's been floating around for a while. We like to use our JRPG points sparingly, and I think our unfamiliarity with the game is standing in the way of us putting it on the schedule. Maybe I could play it as a non-assignment game, but gently caress if I know when that could happen.
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Nier is actually a pretty short game if you avoid the sidequests, which you totally should since they're awful.
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Woffle posted:Good for Zoe. https://storify.com/strictmachine/gameovergate 
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lol and lol at anybody surprised that there was an organized smear campaign happening on the chan side or that people did not in fact get "fake hacked" Also re: Nier, it's a really good game and it deserves time and a considered eye (and you should even do the sidequests, some of which are long and boring, which feels more intentional than say how bad the minigames in No More Heroes are)
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If I were theoretically ordering Nier, would I want it on PS3 of 360? That came out early enough that I suspect it might make a difference.
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Hakkesshu posted:Nier is actually a pretty short game if you avoid the sidequests, which you totally should since they're awful. To be fair though you absolutely have not finished that game if you don't play through at least the first NG+.
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Opposing Farce posted:To be fair though you absolutely have not finished that game if you don't play through at least the first NG+. NG+ goes by super fast, though. I think I got the last ending in like an hour and a half.
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EDIT: I basically don't know what I'm talking about but I would love to see Nier on WOFF.
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Song For The Deaf posted:If I were theoretically ordering Nier, would I want it on PS3 of 360? That came out early enough that I suspect it might make a difference. It doesn't really make a difference, the game is pretty easy on the hardware. I just googed it to make sure I wasn't lying to you and apparently 360 was the lead development platform or something? Idk It should probably be mentioned in the episode that in Japan the PS3 version had a substantially different version of the protagonist who was more of a conventional JRPG hero with a big brother relationship to the young girl as opposed to the Busey-looking father Nier we got in every US version. It doesn't have a big impact on the actual game, but it's an interesting thing.
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If you play Nier, make sure you read a let's play of Drakengard at some point because it fills in some details of the world. Maybe play Nier first because it's one of those games that might benefit from knowing almost nothing beforehand. Do not play Drakengard, unless you love really bad Dynasty Warriors clones. Don't do any sidequests that seem annoying or boring, play New Game+ at least once (after the first NG+ the only difference is the ending). Nier is fantastic and I've wanted to hear you guys talk about it since the first time it was mentioned on Bonfireside Chat.
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Nier on WOFF would be a podcast dream come true. Despite its flaws, there's no way the game wouldn't knock the socks off of Gary and Kole. Excellent use of gameplay features as storytelling devices? Check. Riveting soundtrack that makes good use of layered instrumentation? Check. Smashing localization by 8-4? Check. If you do play it, don't play on the Hardest mode like me. All it adds is tedium.
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I dipped out of the house to buy a copy of Nier. I'm far away from home right now, but I might stream it once things settle down.
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Don't follow this thread much, but listening to latest GBcast. Was there an appropriate backlash/kerfuffle in this thread about Dan's insanity? His input over the past podcasts has painted the most insane picture of him.. Egg-whites, his unwavering trust of anything that Walmart sells, etc? I'll go back and see if this thread had some input on it, but I had to say something. I nearly crashed the car.
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Feenix posted:Don't follow this thread much, but listening to latest GBcast. Was there an appropriate backlash/kerfuffle in this thread about Dan's insanity? His input over the past podcasts has painted the most insane picture of him.. Egg-whites, his unwavering trust of anything that Walmart sells, etc? I think everyone just agrees that Dan is a national treasure.
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We mostly talk about it in the GB thread. Dan posts there occasionally and is pretty awesome about owning up to the fact that he's an idiot about some things.
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Feenix posted:Don't follow this thread much, but listening to latest GBcast. Was there an appropriate backlash/kerfuffle in this thread about Dan's insanity? His input over the past podcasts has painted the most insane picture of him.. Egg-whites, his unwavering trust of anything that Walmart sells, etc? Dan Ryckert is the most perplexing human being I've ever listened to. I don't know how he's physically alive considering majority of his diet consisted of macaroni, chicken fingers, and overcooked steak. And then he said Terminator 3 is better than the first two movies? Someone lock this guy up before he hurts himself!
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al-azad posted:Dan Ryckert is the most perplexing human being I've ever listened to. I don't know how he's physically alive considering majority of his diet consisted of macaroni, chicken fingers, and overcooked steak. And then he said Terminator 3 is better than the first two movies? Someone lock this guy up before he hurts himself! For what it's worth I bear no ill will towards the guy. More just I'm like "holy poo poo how are you alive?!
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I think Dan's life philosophy is spot on. Dude puts on no airs whatsoever and that makes him objectively the best type of person.
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Sep 7, 2014 02:44
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al-azad posted:Dan Ryckert is the most perplexing human being I've ever listened to. I don't know how he's physically alive considering majority of his diet consisted of macaroni, chicken fingers, and overcooked steak. And then he said Terminator 3 is better than the first two movies? Someone lock this guy up before he hurts himself! I maintain that Dan wasn't born, he was grown in a vat but escaped before he was finished.
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He's a Simpsons character. He fell through that same rift Homer did in that one Halloween special and has been trapped in the real world ever since.
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FuriousGeorge posted:I think Dan's life philosophy is spot on. Dude puts on no airs whatsoever and that makes him objectively the best type of person.
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Ps: where did Vinny go? I listen to each week but somehow missed why/where/for what reason he left. I liked him a lot and he had his first kid just before I did so all his anecdotes and jokes were 'my jam'.
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Sep 7, 2014 04:18
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Wow, a mythical "only listens to the podcast never visits the web site" unicorn has stepped out of the forest.
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He moved to New York to raise his family (he actually just had his second child last week) and spearhead Giant Bomb East with Alex. They've done a bunch of great videos so far and I think they are going to start a podcast someday.
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Feenix posted:Ps: where did Vinny go? I listen to each week but somehow missed why/where/for what reason he left. He moved back to New York and had another baby. He's setting up a second studio there, him and Alex Navarro have been doing quick looks and stuff out of the TV Guide office.
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pseudorandom name posted:Wow, a mythical "only listens to the podcast never visits the web site" unicorn has stepped out of the forest. I watch quick looks from time to time but prefer to get my gaming news from Forbes Magazine.  And thanks for the info!
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